i'm talking with reverend suzann strouse about how christians reflect together on interfaith matters and how it effects our owen cristian identity. i can imagine this is a scary experience for some christians but also a very trons forming experience and growth filled experience. >> absolutely. >> share an example of that. >> i would have to go back to the original person who asked me the question, elsie. >> yes. >> in fact i called my dock tral thesis the -- dock toreal thesis the elsie project in her honor because she started me on this quest. our faith opened us up to new ways of thinking about christian identity. it helped me to relate more to her and i also found my openness to talking about these questions and abled people in my congregations to talk to me about things maybe they wouldn't have talked about before because they maybe thought i would not accept them or tell them they're wrong, especially wrung people. >> yes, let's talk about the mill len i can't answer these days in congregations. >> absolutely. >> i would -- millen yals -- millenials these days in congregations.