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joining me now suzannah -- andrew hill financial times senior business writer.r being here with us. suzannah, it seems everyone is in agreement about the importance of this moment, they respect for the queen's long reign, these rituals we are seeing though in some ways people might have thought -- anachronistic and modern society, but in other ways, again as they watch, the number of people who came out literally in the middle of the night, the number of world leaders who canceled their schedules and are now beginning to assemble in westminster abbey will it bring a new respect for the monarchy that some maybe we're seeing as lost, and even security for the future of the monarchy? what is the impact? >> well, it certainly is going to be one of the biggest days in history it is going to be the largest state funeral watched by the most people. we are told maybe even four billion people around the world are going to watch this. whilst it may seem slightly -- what the british do around the world's history and we don't change everything to something that is modern, s

. >> let's now bring in suzannah lipcomb, a royal historian and a msnbc royal contributor. thank you for joining us as well. the country is now entering ten days of warning, but it's like the question i asked matt, in this modern age, this still seem like a personal loss for some brits? >> i think it definitely does. i think for most of us we've never known any other monarch, and she as been there our whole lives. for many people, there is a sense that her death represents the death of all our grandmothers or mothers, the mother of a nation. i do think that -- there are those that are moving on and less confidence in, but the crowds are big. people are turning out in large numbers to lay flowers, and my sense of the mood is that the reason people are not weeping as there they did -- the death of diana, because this is not a tragedy. she died after a long life well lived, a piece, surrounded by her family and one of the most beautiful places in the world that she loved so much. we all hope to have a death like that, and yet, there is a sense of commemoration for her in this

suzannah let's begin their. how would you describe this standard that the queen set for her parents? >> well. i think she set the standard in terms of that sense of connection. and humanity. the thing that comes out of all reports about the queen. is the way in which she engaged with people. i read an amazing story yesterday from the late chief rabbi, jonathan sachs, that how in 2000 and 15, she met with a group of auschwitz survivors in the time when she was supposed to leave, and she stayed, and she stayed. and she gave h one, he said, her focus and hurried attention. and listen to each of their stories. and afterwards, they said to him. you know, this had felt amazing. there had been a day when they didn't know that if they would make it tomorrow. and here they were talking to the queen. and he said it brought a closure to the lacerated lives. but i think it went to counter with the queen. and it was often something that is hard to guess at. but there are so many sacred qualities of the monetary key that can

suzannah, the thank you for being with us. moment, as we heard from bradley, he will go out into the world, go introduced himself to a lot of people. what is that introduction you're going to look like and talk to me about the significance of the historical moment he finds himself doing it in? >> well, if you are taking over from someone who has had the job for 70 years and has done it almost flawlessly, it's going to be a difficult thing to do for anyone. but the fact of the matter is that the king has been beside the queen for many of those years watching and learning. so, in this moment, he knows what he is taking on. in fact, over the last year or so, perhaps longer, if you think about when he was made the head of the commonwealth after the queen and when we saw him at -- one we saw him -- we clearly see him being lined up as air, but we see him in those moments taking the queen's role before. he has been practicing, in other words, for a long time. as you say, there is this sense splash question over whether he can ever b

suzannah. let's talk about what tuesday's going to look like. because many of the meetings that king charles is holding today with heads of state. certainly sets him up for his reign as king. on tuesday as the funeral is over. how important is it for him to have these meetings and cement himself on the world stage as king? >> i think it's very important to take this opportunity when he has got presidents and prime ministers and members of the royal family from across europe. and -- emperor of japan. all these people are gonna be present with him. it's a very important moment. he's hardly a newcomer to the stage of international affairs. people have been meeting him as prince of wales for decades. and so many of these relationships. are already established. particularly with the european royal families. but for example, the emperor and empress of japan since the came to the throne in 2019. and so this is a wonderful opportunity to meet them. also quite crucially to meet elected members of parliament or prime ministers or presidents elsewhere from

. >> suzannah liscum trans us again. and if you have a chance, have you had a chance to watch the ceremony? as we listen to the reading of all of the things that the new king charles agreed to, even though many people view this, and it is not a legislative brawl, they view it as a largely ceremonial role. the queen may say something influential, the queen with her stature made this role where it was very much new and influence that she had of the british people get. talk a little bit about that if he will. and the role that this new king will play. >> i think that's absolutely right, that the queen shaved the role in nature of the monarchy. and she shaped it so that the monarch operated soft power. which you probably heard a lot about in the previous days. professors definition of achieving outcomes by attraction of coercion are payments. the queen was the opinion of soft power. and, in all her dealings with our leaders across the world. she was someone who was able to achieve outcomes for great britain by her own influe

our thanks to suzannah lipscomb, our apologies for those audio difficulties.e queen's coffin continues its journey to holyroodhouse palace in edinburgh scotland, there's growing speculation about the future of the royal family, and a question given that they do not face yesterday, with a surprise joint appearance by prince william and harry, along with their wives, kate and megan at windsor castle. with king charles's ascension, prince william becomes the first in line for the throne. harry and megan of course gave up their official royal duties when they moved to the united states in 2020, and it is unclear if they will play a larger role now. joining me now, msnbc's royal commentator and henry bouncy, presenter at times radio. thanks to both of you for being here. henry, i want to start with this public reunion. what do you see as the significance of that winter walk about? >> while, if you consider all of the briefing we had over the past couple of years about the division, the and the tee between william and kate, harry and meghan, you would have thought t

suzannah, thank you for being with us, this seems to be a flood emergency between -- national disaster the crisis right now how much worse is expected to get -- >> you can see behind me, some of the fields that have been most recently flooded here in the province, as these were flooded when the pakistani government made the controversial government decision to reach a lake upstream from here. that move displaced tens of thousands of people and flooded hundreds more villages downstream. we are hearing that water levels in the league are continuing to rise and that may force pakistani government to make another -- breach of the retaining wall. that may add to the humanitarian crisis. here right we are now is in sindh just south of some of the worst-hit villages further north from, here these are villages that are still underwater. the president what families at some of these villages, they told us they do not want to leave their homes because they know even if they reach try land, there will not be shelter for them, and -- these flights have been going on for weeks, months, that is soon,

suzannah lip skin, thank you so much. it is good to speak to. go from there now to the developing story, britain's ministry of defense says ukrainian forces have made significant gains against russian positions. in the past 24 hours, it comes after russia's defense ministry announced it was pulling back troops from two areas and ukraine's eastern kharkiv region. joining me now from kyiv, msnbc's megan fitzgerald, megan, welcome. what's the latest you're seeing and hearing on the ground following what appears to be a big victory for ukraine. >> absolutely. we are seeing some of those significant advances that we've seen from ukrainian troops since april when they were able to effectively push the russians out of the outskirts of kyiv. keep in mind the counter affection was just launched two weeks ago. since then, the president of ukraine, president zelenskyy is saying that his troops have been able to recapture more than 1100 square miles of russian occupied territory. take a look at the northeast of the country, the kharkiv region them. they are

suzannah, what does that signify? >> so many of the details are archaic.e here is this sense of ceremony. there are these layers of meaning to it. we do have people appearing in 17th century clothing. it is astonishing. what we are watching is something so historic. also, as john has said, we are speaking from an age in which we only knew these things. we are allowed to watch this on television, but word spread by mail from the 17th century. what we are seeing here is a reenactment of a historic right. it is creating charles as king in peoples minds. he became king the moment that his mother passed. >> put it simply, it is a rubber stamp. it is a rubber stamp with a lot of extra ceremony. allowing the public to adjust with the reality. the queen is dead, god save the king. the second is he close her eyes, she closed her eyes. king charles was carrying. -- i know we are talking to mostly an american audience right now. when we look at these costumes, look at these state ceremonies. it is almost, in some moments, it is something that you would see out of a m

for more on this moment from the uk and all of its allies as well, i want to bring in suzannah lips comb. a professor at the university of road hampton and msnbc royal contributor. suzanne, it is good to talk to you. thanks for joining us on this. let's pick up where i just left off with a few the people that lindsey was in fact interviewing in talking about the unity of this family coming together once again and that's the loss. and, it is often during a loss in any family whether it is a royal family or just a regular old family that any rift are kind of put aside to mourn together. right, because that is what that person would have wanted. and we know for sure and for certain this is exactly what the queen would have wanted. do you sense that, amidst all of this, a possible shift in the role that harry and meghan may play going forward? >> that is a really interesting question. i think you are really right in that age up in the family just helps us see things in perspective. it helps any small worldly distances to seem minor by comparison to the loss of a loved one. and so, i think th

i worry that focusing on santa suzannah, will seem like a luxury.t. the everyday people, who are affected by polluters, are just being walked all over. the damage that is done will last for centuries. and we simply have to keep fighting. >> i've been a reporter for 38 years, i've seen just about everything, i was still surprised that there were government officials who looked me in the eye and said, santa suzanna is not a problem. >> even when there were so many government documents that said otherwise. but, i think that the public is not so easily fooled. they know there is something here. and the truth always comes out in the end. >> i think that it takes an enormous amount of courage, and a hell of a lot of work to see that there is accountability and that something is done. it is up to the mothers, and others who have the courage, have the time to make sure that something happens. >> it may be the only way. >> who's going to be the next child, who's going to be the next person in your community. you don't ever give up on something like this, bec

. >> you know, suzannah, crystal there is echoing the sentiments of president biden who made clear thatl republicans are maga republicans. earlier today democratic congressional campaign committee chair, sean patrick maloney, doubled down that idea. take a listen. >> this is not republicans versus democrats, this is mainstream republicans and democrats versus maga extremists. this election is about mainstream versus maga. i am proud that we have a president that knows right from wrong. >> so, susan, is that how you see it? too many republicans, at least privately, draw that distinction? >> this is very difficult to sit and watch happen in realtime. i do agree with president biden's message, it is true, absolutely right in how he was looking in addressing the nation. however, with two months to go before the midterms, this president is not a good messenger, neither is maloney for republicans. if you're trying to find those center-right republicans or independents, these are not the right people. the way joe biden won was when republicans and independents could no longer support the mega,

again, this is a moment in history where we are saying good-bye to a queen, suzannah, and we are not liking to see another queen ever again in our lifetimes. >> maybe another 100 years presuming the prince has a daughter first. absolutely there is this sense that what we are seeing here is a time of great change. the shoe is on the other foot. everything was reversed to when elizabeth became queen. instead of needing to be schooled by the prime minister, it feels like it's the other way around. the longest standing heir in history. he has been at his mother's right-hand side for so much of that time learning how to do the job. he in fact, has been doing much of the job in various ways the last few years. taking her place at the state hood in parliament this year, delivering the speech from the consort's chair. now he is changing thrones. but the point is he has been there. and i think this is all deliberate. the queen has made sure that he would take over and in the smoothest way possible by all of this exposure to how his role will work and what it entails so that he, you know, step