up next on booktv "after words" with guest host suzanne goldberg. colombia law school director for the gender and sexuality law. as we told her prize-winning investigative jo becker enter books sub pour inside the fight for marriage equality in at "the new york times" veteran takes readers to the latter stages of as what some call the new civil rights movement culminating in the supreme court's decision to strike down the defense of marriage

up next on booktv "after words" with guest host suzanne goldberg. colombia law school director for the gender and sexuality law. as we told her prize-winning investigative jo becker enter books sub pour inside the fight for marriage equality in at "the new york times" veteran takes readers to the latter stages of as what some call the new civil rights movement culminating in the supreme court's decision to strike down the defense of marriage act. this program is about an hour. >> host: it's wonderful to be here today. we have so much to talk about so before we get started i thought it would be useful to share with people our format which is that i want to start a little bit by asking you about how you came to write the book and the experience of being embedded in and step back and talk about the frame of the book and what you're covering here and get back to the particular assertions you make in the book. you talk about. the book is called "forcing the spring" with the subtitle inside the fight for marriage equality and to get inside this fight as y