also, suzy buffett and -- back with us, seth reams, a man who also made a choice to found an organization entitled, we've got time to help. you may be familiar with seth from his appearance here in the past or with arriarir arianna. >> the risk is that the middle class the crumbling. we are being divided as a country and without the middle class, the mobility at the heart of the american dream and education starting earlier, without all that, then we're at risk of becoming a third world country. i'm excited about being here with suzy and seth. instead of complaining about what's happening like i do in my writing, my book and the "huffington post," we need to actually act. there's nothing that is better to turn the anger and despair into hope and opt mimism than action. and those two are acting from a very different perspective. suzy from her previous background is using what she has. and seth from having lost his job, he turns that into something, which is helping thousands of people and potentially even more. thanks to what you're doing to promote. >> but what do you think is the common