he did because it would " 'svietize america still children." host: the speaker of the house, how did he view her? >> i think he viewed as the biggest pain oin th e neck. she was always challenging them. after 1970, i think she decides she was to be a more effective legislator. she's very strategic and she learn the skills of who you support, who you don't support, and she actually made alliances with white southern legislators in order for them to appropriate money for her district. host: why did she run for president? >> i know she says she ran for president because she felt there was an opening, there was a tremendous youth revolt, there was opposition to the war in vietnam, there was a women's moment. there were veterans who active in there was nobody speaking for the. dm. do i think she had a realistic sense that she would win? no. she said shut what she wanted to do was to get delegate vote so she could go to conventions and make an impact. . and she actually did. the only time the democratic party came out against capital punishment was i