a regional bank, community bank -- >> but svp is not a community bank. >> it's not. speaking to when they deregulated. when they deregulated the idea was it's because they want to try to help the small banks do more business. however they deregulated too much svp went from $40 billion in assets to almost 200 in the height of covid. she's right in that deregulation hurt and what we need is smart regulation but when they deregulated, there were arguments to be made we're trying to help some of the smaller banks but without enough rules things go off the rails, at least they did for this bank. >> the white house said they want to spread the contagion -- >> they're worried about it. this is the problem with the finance world. it's not just about the money. it's also about the psychology of this. if people are spooked, people are spooked. svp was a particular kind of bank, a bunch of clients with cash strapped businesses so it was unique in that way however people said i used to love my small, regional bank, should i not put my money there? that is leading to what happene

whatever happened svp no one should say they were surprised. people from the outside looking svp he's in balance sheet and operating practices knew there was a problem there. >> from bridget in south carolina, republican line, hi. >> caller: hi, good morning, thank you. i was reading up on this over the weekend. you touched on this topic about the sib is systematically important banks. i had never heard thator term. i do not read a whole lot about you know, banking. can you explain a little bit more about systematically important banks and with considered an sib? thank you. >> okay, yes. i kind of admire you not reading a whole lot about banking. that meansmo you have a more interesting life than io. do. so sdb would probably not be considered a systematically important bank. sort of the asset level which engages the higher level of scrutiny under dodd frank was $250 billion. it was a little bit under that. whether we called it a systematic important bank or not, i think what reallyrt matts here is when the bad thing happened, when it fails it

coming up, insight on the collapse of svp and what happens next.his time, all of you sarkozy -- olivier sarkozy. this is bloomberg. ♪ >> i think we have got to recognize this was the second largest bank failure in u.s. history followed by the third largest when signature bank was taken over. the combination of those things inside a couple of days is a check to the system. it will take -- a shock to the system. it will take time to settle out. jon: you were just listening to walter todd of greenwood capital on the collapse of the silicon valley bank. bloomberg news has learned apollo, blackstone and kkr are expressing interest in buying loans held by svp. over sarkozy joins us. he is currently the founder and managing partner of further global and has more than $2 million in assets under management. let's start with the 74 billion dollars loan book out of svb. a lot are saying that is an attractive by, coveted. what do you make it? olivier: loan books are evaluations of individual assets and what they would be worth. there is nothing you are acquiri

svp -- svb itself.n bank of america, which of course, is a very different bank, looking at what is happening today, the two year yield continues to get a bid. those yields this morning are down by eight basis points. over the past three days, it is more than 20. you get a yield curve that continues to steepen. it did steepen past 1%, we are no longer there. we were talking to andy brenner, i asked him if he would short any of these, and he said absolutely not. the yields are still at very high levels. so, that is what is happening in the yield curve. elsewhere, we are seeing aussie bonds by about 12 basis points, too. getting more into the story, global bancshares are signing as silicon valley bank, a lender that is literal -- little known outside tech circles. it sparked the panic. >> could be a tame example. there are many other banks out there. it is very rational for investors to be asking, is there contagion in train right now? >> i don't think it is a greater risk to the financial sector. i do thi

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only one stock to watch, svp financial group. tom: it is jobs day for 8553 people in santa clara, california. gerard cassidy will join us, michael male will join us. what they are going to tell you is, this is idiosyncratic, not 2008. jonathan: svp ceo apparently told clients, bc after vc came out telling companies to pull out their money. tom: i call it running a bank, but jimmy stewart is not in the movie. fabulous work on this, basically two bond portfolios segregated and they've got to figure out what to do with them now those said deposits are walking out the door. most of the experts i have talked to say they have been clumsy at it. jonathan: let's talk about why some of those deposits are walking out the door. mike mayo said siv p core issue is the lack of funding, diversification, deposits are from vc which has issues. to us, the larger the bank, the more diversified the funding. i know you agree with that point. lisa: that has been a big distinction on why this is not 2008, what this is going to be is increasing challeng

banks see record drop in deposits after svp collapse. so what does that mean? are people starting to pull their money out of the banks and going to the larger banks? >> first it has to dos? with of the distinguished spy banks into there's a lot that flows into this category. it once was called the small bag of over $210 billion, the 16th largest bank in the country. to me that is not a small bank. what we have seen is for the nations community banks, really the smallest, the local institutions, the deposits have remained steady over this time and inn fact, we are hearing and some of them the deposits are growing because again they are getting back to thatng business model into the relationship that folks have in the community bankers that they know they trust and feelel that is a safe source for them in the deposits these days. >> do you agree the federal government should have stepped in on those bank failures people are calling it a bailout although they are saying it is nottr a bailout. where do you stand on that? >> what a tricky call to make. we needed a s

were on board, just one had investment banking experience, the former berkeley ceo tom price joined svp in september. the rest of the board were democrat mega donors who focused on woke, phil cox works to increase diversity in cybersecurity, it is all fun and dandy, when fed are investigating why the bank collapsed, where they too focused on diversity and not risk? they had no chief risk officer during the months the fed was taking interest rates. i want to tell you one other thing. gavin newsom did business with svp, three wineries he owns are clients of that bank, reports say he did have a personal account. 's office says all his holdings are managed by trust. stuart: executives, some executives at silicon valley bank sold their stock in the company sometime before this crisis. >> days before the bank collapsed, $6 billion of stock on february 27th and ceo daniel back, $575,000 the same day, it is legal. what did the top two no in january, and justice department investigating potential insider trading. and and and absolutely, and should they be clawback as well. >> producer prices, 4.

blerina: again, what's happening with svp does muddy the water.e report was strong and even after the january payroll report, the labor market is still producing jobs at above trend growth. the tech sector remains an ongoing issue with employment stalls. but the service sector is pretty strong and they underline that expectation of ongoing strong demand in services. alix: are you looking for 50 or 25 and march? blerina: just like the fed, i am waiting for the cpi report. based on macroeconomic data, the payroll report that we saw today, it would justify the fed increasing the pace of hikes. i don't think they can make that decision in isolation to what's happening in financial markets and financial stability risks. guy: if they hike by 50 at the next meeting, is the likelihood that they go 50 at the next meeting? how does that change the trajectory to the terminal rate and what that rate is? blerina: we have a fed that has not been too shy or concern to slip from one meeting to another. it doesn't give me a lot of faith to what they will do at the

sheila blair was chair of the fcic, what she is saying now about svp? lauren: they shouldn't have been bailed out, the government should not have guaranteed all the deposits, called that an overreaction. here that is. >> quite safe and stable, the banking system is very safe and the main thing we have to fear is fear itself, making people, incentivizing people to make irrational withdrawals when it is not necessary. lauren: she's against increasing deposit insurance, 250,000, that encourages risk. bankers can invest however they could, responsible for the money you have with them. are you are doing is making a rich bank richer because you're letting them be more risky. stuart: moral hazard, thanks very much. back to the markets. we are waiting for the fed's decision this afternoon. david, you are saying, new lows for the market are just around the corner, in the immediate future. why are you saying that? >> financial crises and recessions are two separate things, in 2,008 they happened at the same time and we are seeing that begin right now. i think it

banks see record drop in deposits after svp collapse. so what is that mean? are people starting to pull their money out of the smaller banks and going to the larger banks? guest: first we have to distinguish small banks and there is a lot run into these category. svb was called a small bank and they were $210 billion, the 16th largest bank in the country. to me that is not a small bank. what we've seen is for the nations community banks, really the smallest of local institutions, their deposits remained steady over this time. in fact, some of them, their deposits are growing because getting back to that business model, it's a relationship folks have with the local community bankers and they know they trust and feel like that is the safe play for them and their deposits. host: do you agree the federal government should have stepped in on those two bank failures? people are calling it a bailout. the administration says it is not a bailout. where you stand? guest: what a tricky call to make. we needed a sense of calm in this country and that is essentially what

they are set to be declared insolvent and there are concerns not just for svp operations around the world but all of these startups and how they argue to be affected. if you look at the exposure we see in asia, roku has been one that has been singled out as one of the most exposed firms. there are dozens of companies with exposure to the bank and customers are facing a lot of uncertainty around these uninsured deposits. hundreds of tech jeeps -- tech chiefs trying to work out their exposure in the broader ramifications for the industry that has always relied heavily on u.s. capitol and growth. we continue to watch all of these develop and's closely, including the auction process for their assets underway. regulators said to be making a portion of deposits available as soon monday. >> we know the fbi see kicked off this auction process in the u.s. they are hoping to wrap this up in a few hours. they said a big deadline is sunday afternoon in the u.s. and they want to move swiftly. but the problem is we don't know if there will be a bid that complies with regulators or if it will be a bid t

that's led to group chats of founders of vcs all abuzz with what to do with svp. that led to panic.obody wants to be the last customer held at a bank. >> help break down all those affected. >> svb was the premier bank in silicon valley. we've seen tech companies banking at svb as kind of a badge of honor. right now we're seeing companies come out and say they were affected by this. roku filed what's called an 8k and said 26% of its cash assets are tied up in svb. >> so $487 million for say roku. and when we talk about the fdic insuring up to $250,000, does that mean that conceivably a company like that could be reduced to just having that amount recovered? >> right. so $250,000 is what the fdic ensures. for a personal account, that might be something. but for these large business accounts trying to make payroll, that is basically nothing. $250,000 is the floor. the fdic has come out and said that is what guaranteed will be available monday. right now they're looking at the books of svp and determining how much and how quickly they with make the rest of those funds available to custo

the uk response is much neater, and that is because the svp i neater, and that is because the svp bank uk worries a lot more about what we call moral hazard risk, this notion that the government will ensure every single risk taken. so what we have seen in the uk is the transfer of a weak bank into a strong bank, with very limited public sector support. the us approach is completely different. here, it is the government and the fed coming in and guaranteeing deposits, at their level. a very different approach. the uk is neater, but operationally the uk had a less difficult task. for neater, but operationally the uk had a less difficult task.— a less difficult task. for those with money — a less difficult task. for those with money invested - a less difficult task. for those with money invested in - a less difficult task. for those with money invested in this i a less difficult task. for those i with money invested in this bank worried about paying staff, is it likely that people will stay with this bank, whatever the rescue packages are, and should they now not worry? 50 packages are, a

the hearing paul in response to failures of k signature bank.nand both since markets: regulators say svp's problems were self-inflicted. >> this is a textbook case of bank mismanagement. raced risk, those are bread-and-butter banking 's magement was at risk but a viral run on the bank co>>ovarchme 9 posirs a 2 biion ints in a dw period of just a few hours . >> sipodesenators appear to be using that hearings for more than just oversight . th're so ting e ti toiai presidential politics. >> against a risinginflation under president biden was to blame . >> bindings reckless spending caused a 40 year high inflation and the country as well as the bank experienced tremendous loss . >> while democrats in the problems on former president from. >> officials know their predecessors rollback sections like capital liquidity stress test rubber deposit limits and even basic supervision . eenlstig hted those ban . >> democrats say they plan to try to pass the oversight law. >>. >> the fcic is compiling a comprehensive review of bank failures that it will report to congress no later than may 1. we will als

i think bigger issue is this, we can go through svp, i give you hook, line singer.e. the real issue here we had a fiscal, monetary experiment. asset classes were essentially created out of thin air, they printed money, they spent money and now you have massive dislocation in the plumbing of the markets and the economy. we'll bet more of these. we're. will jpmorgan go under? probably not. they have the same set of assets under their balance sheet, difficult depositors, treasurys are underwater right now. mortgage-backed securities are underwater. because the fed had to raise interest rates. you say maybe the fed shouldn't raise interest rates? if you want 7% for inflation rest of time, that will levoy working middle class. we're only in the situation because, i hate to turn this political, the spending follow sy of the biden administration. stuart: yep. >> and the idiocy of the federal reserve printing money. created nfts, meme stocks, crypto. what is this? of course we're going to get this. stuart: massive bubble created by massive input of money. >> here is what sc

at least 29 companies were impacted by svp collapse like pinterest, fitbit, ziprecruiter to name a fewme has been done for new york signature bank, which was shut down over the weekend pure treasure secretary janet yellen said the action does not equal bailing out the banks. >> we are in the middle of a financial crisis. if you were investors and owners of systemic, large banks that were built out and we are certainly not looking to reform put in place and that means we will not do that again. but we are concerned about depositories ever focused on trying to meet their needs. >> ceo of pershing square eckman agrees this was not a bailout in terms of how the term has been used as of recently mainly because taxpayer funds will not be injected. he did at this in a tweet, "laura payne's will fail." but now we have a road map how the government will manage them. it is a massive wake-up call. the financial crisis stock and bond investors will not be protected by this emergency move. the news announced that silicon valley bank british arm has been purchased by hbc, 1 pound and u.s. regulators

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bonds that brought down svp. take a look at how u.s.e trading right now because we are seeing the two year yield beginning for the first time in four years. this is one of the worst days since the 1980's. bitcoin trading flat after posting as big as -- the biggest one-day increases. let's cross over to hong kong. >> we have seen big news from bitcoin there and a lot of tokens across the landscape. posting higher. thank you so much for joining us this morning. it does seem that confidence in the sector has been restored. what does that tell you about the evolution of the crypto industry? quirks we have seen the fed, the fcic, the treasury movement sweep in on sunday but we are seeing is risks remaining escalating across the whole global financial system. stress is in the end, stresses in credit default. it is far from the market. it is still very jittery environment. let's see what happens over the next 48 hours. >> what do you make if the move backs in? what does that tell you about how crypto manages? >> it has been really interesting.

the feds made a major announcement to help people with money in svp. marianne? >> it has been a bit of a roller coaster ride. first today on face the nation, secretary said there will be no federal bailouts for the collapsed bank. they would bank safe deposit's. depositors will have access to all their money starting monday, march 13. no losses associated with the resolution of silicon valley bank will be borne by the taxpayer. we talked with a venture capitalist about the latest announcement. >> that is going to be extremely common for the valley. common for any company that banks with this being. any lender who lent to them -- >> silicon valley bank is deeply connected with technology startups and venture capitol. experts say at collapsed because of the downturn of technology and the federal reserve interest rates hikes. this all comes as the treasury, federal reserve and fdic shutdown another bank, a signature bank in new york. regulators are calling that think a systemic risk. today regulators announced depositors will have full access to their deposits. mar

we had that 5% get hit and the market falls in, things calm down and we get svp financial, the bank collapses. a lot of that has to do with higher rates. when you look at that it goes back to these rate hikes damaging everything. jack otter: the two yielded 5% in the market lost almost 5%. ben: whenever things started falling apart, dropped five percentage points and had its biggest drop since 2001. jack otter: you had a scary friday people have two days to get more worried and monday opens. what do you expect? ben: not so worried. might give people a chance to calm down. some think problems in the banking sector would get the fed to dial back the rate hikes a little bit. we have a payrolls number friday that showed a little bit of a goldilocks report. jobs are being created at a high clip. the an employment rate went up because people are looking for jobs. that is a good thing. wage growth slowed down. then we get cpi on tuesday. if that number looks like it is goldilocks as well, then things are okay. jack otter: you keep an eye on the technicals. what are the charts telling you? ben: the 2

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. >>> stunning news that rattled financial markets, svp as closed.t's the largest us bank failures since the great recession. the bank leaves account holders wondering what will happen to their money. >> alarm outside headquarters of silicon valley link bank. >> they told us the bank is shutdown. >> the 16th largest bank in the united states with $175 billion in deposits is now the biggest american bank to fail since the 2008 financial crisis. the customers, primarily business owners in the tech sector. [ inaudible ]>> that part of the job is to manage risk. >> the bank announced it took a loss on the sale of bonds because of rising interest rates. they started sharing selling shares to offset losses. the stock price plunged and customers moved to take their money out. the fdic which ensures money in banks and now stepping in, telling customers it will begin making good on insured accounts on monday. it insures accounts up to $250,000. many accounts are worth a lot more. >> it's a heart stopping moment. this bank is done. >> ashley is the ceo of a he

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svp, its main problems originated in the us and its because of its investment strategy which meant itwhen it had to sell some of those investments due to a massive loss. we have seen governments on both sides of the atlantic scrabbling to make sure customers were protected because this time round, it wasn't customers that were the problem. in the financial crisis it was originally about mortgage owners who couldn't pay back their loans. now the clients of this bag are in good shape, particularly in the uk but it was instead the bank's investment strategies which was a bit of a mess. what you have seen is the safety net being unfurled, deposits being protected but banking shares down sharply because concerns are remaining but whether or not those rules have been toughened up enough over the last 15 years to reduce the risks that higher interest rates posed to banks and their strategies. yes, we were just looking at those banking shares, uk ones in particular and that is that word of contagion again of the fear it could spread to other banks. lots of reassurance from central banks and r

depositors of svp will be depositors of first citizen's bank based out of north carolina. according to prepared testimony, michael barr, the vice chair for supervision says svb's leadership failed and calls it a textbook case of mismanagement. barr says svb's belated effort to fix the balance sheet made things worse. customers should use your current branch until you hear from first citizen's. if you have loans from sill law -- silicone valley bank, make your payments as usual and the terms will not change. the collapse rattled the banking industry and triggered a collapse in confidence among investors and depositors. it lead to action by the fdic and other regulators to act hoping to prevent a wider flop. they will be meeting tomorrow and they will have hearings. this will be the first hearing of several to talk about the bank's failure. in santa clara, justin andrews, back to you. >> thanks, justin. and the new-found stability is helping wall street give a bit of a boost. it is up right now 323 points. and the dark cloud may be lifting off the banking industry, but not s

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