if you don't normally trigger what would qualify you as a pac, but you send out something with a swa ti ka on it or vote for or against, if you send it within 90 days of election you spend 1,000 bucks, you have to report. that's a good requirement, we want to keep that >> we're in agreement on that >> yes, definitely. the other point, with respect to communications, is there was an exemption put in there, after hearing from the regulated community, and interested persons, about 501 c 3's basically, little invitations, they will send out for fundraisers, if one of you guys are a candidate, rather would appear as somebody who speaks at the event if it's 500 or more, it's sent out 90 days of an election, and a thousand bucks is spent on those, that would be an electionary communication -- so we felt comfortable, a card in the mail for a fund raising event, would not trigger the concerns of election attempting to influence an election if the 501 c three did that they would be at risk of their 501 c three status. >> i actually don't agree with that. i have actually seen where people are running

opens up a whole world of possibilities as to what else they should be selling, you know guns or swas tis kasjust looked up. >> i'm checking and seeing -- >> it's nice of amazon to take down postings but that's kind of -- >> but there appear to still be swastikas on amazon. >> it a p.r. move or move to cut out symbols of hatred. the companies have to look within. >> it's a good point. it starts here with the confederate flag always been the symbol of hatred. now we're talking about statues of historical figures, you could say jefferson davis, let's start with jefferson davis. then it goes to robert e. lee then it goes why doesn't it go to thomas jefferson, he owned slaves? why not george washington he owned slaves? is it going to be about the flag or about everything else associated with a very bad part of our history. >> we'll talk more about this. we have bill kris toll coming on board. a swastika is a symbol of hate. if you're selling that and taking the confederate flag off your shelves, you're not really being anything about hip critical. let's turn to upstate new york and town of owl's