i mean, there are swales in farm fields that are not jurisdictional. there are, you know, drainage off of a commercial property that has to move the water efficiently. those are not going to be jurisdictional so it's hard to say specifically here. >> the fact that there's sort of a filtering built into it, does that make a difference in having to comply with the law? just that -- >> again, the -- i'm going to say -- as a general merritt swales are not going to be -- drainage swales will not be jurisdictional but that doesn't mean you can't consider whether you're going to be discharge in pollution into them. >> that's a good point that there might be -- one of the things we're talking about in theory in planning theory is now building drankage that has in itself -- that incorporates fill filtering. miss bonamici's question, if we don't encourage that we won't encourage it at the local level. >> we don't want to create disincentives for green infrastructure or other drainage systems built at -- to help storm water management and particularly from a poll

general matter swales are not going to be -- drainage swales are not going to be jurisdictional. that doesn't mean you can consider whether or not you're going to be discharging pollution into them. >> that's a good point that there might be -- one of the things we're talking about in theory in planning theory is now building drankage that has in itself -- that incorporates filtering. i think what miss bonamici's question was, if we don't encourage that we won't encourage it at the local level. >> we don't want to create disincentives for green infrastructure or other drainage systems built at -- to help storm water management and particularly from a pollution control perspective. city -- in many respects when you have -- in your district in both ways, cities are beginning to learn from what farmers have been already doing, and i think this is an interesting time for that kind of storm water management work but we do not want to create impediments to that. >> i invite any of your lawyers who wanted to follow up with two pages on that to me, feel free to do so. >> we will follow u

the stigma attached to the word itself so they say so to focus on what we do and we just will not swale ourselves what about those other two hot to handle? >> i would appreciate that because you are getting that trained and skilled workers to build this country to build the american flag. not only did our veterans pay for that with their blood but the union workers who built the buildings and the teamsters who brought things from one coast to another and a the workers and the i.r.a. workers who build the buildings and the skyscrapers. we are proud workers. we look for is to go to work to get our paychecks and benefits. neil: let them do their thing but if we want to get more members we cannot use -- mentioned a you can. are you copasetic with that? >> i am proud to say i of a union worker i am proud of with what we have done here in boston under our leadership. i will be all right at all have a problem because i've not bashing people going house to house i into busy going to work and earning a paycheck and tuesday and behind old glory "spreading the sheet" is better than his colleague.