i had just -- the last film i directed, hilary swank was the star of. she's such a great actress. little dinner party. and we all stayed really late and i brought my daughter ann, who at that time was 19, she was in college. she was an athlete in college. she worshipped kobe. >> jimmy: right. >> we got into this conversation at about 3:00 in the morning sitting around. and hillary's boyfriend had said, how do you keep getting better? how is it possible that you keep getting better? kobe was like, i spend eight hours a day shooting free throws. the way he met hillary was cold called her and said, you are my favorite actress, every time i see you i'm blown away by what you do, i want to know how you do what you do because i want to look at my process through a different lens. she was like, whoa, kobe bryant called me, that means i've made it. >> jimmy: yeah, really. >> he went to her acting coach -- >> jimmy: does kobe want to be an actress? [ laughter ] >> i don't know, maybe. but literally he went to her coach to learn about excellence. and it just really blew -- and i thought, th