are a few producers maybe who mines for example who see their profit margins just spearing up the swanny and think well we if this is going down we've got to sell a bit we've got a hedge a bit just in case it was good pay wages and all rested apart from that there are no sellers left on the market the people who have sold and need to buy it back are basically what the called to manage money cash agree which from a smokefree hedge funds who don't actually know what they're doing they haven't got experience of this market they don't understand the underlying dynamics they are in a situation now where they are beginning to close their positions and we saw this in the last commitment of trade report the outstanding shorts came down a bit but it's still incredibly high so what we're seeing of the early stages of a wonderful best please. tell the people i love best weeks is when you say close positions i mean those short position exactly close for positions they have got to buy back to buy them back to close that and they've got to find someone to buy from and the point i'm putting to you is t