and i was talking to a guy from swansea, massachusetts, a blue collar town.." well, in fact, my father ran a truck stop in jersey city, so total avoidance of the mafia had not been an option for him. but, i said, "well, what do you mean? i'm surprised she would say that." he said, "oh, yeah, she says you like the boys in providence." well, new england is -- the mafia is the only organization in new england where providence was the capital. >> seth: right. >> not boston. and i realized, he heard her say, "he likes the boys in providence" and thought she meant the mafia. she had obviously said, he likes the boys in provincetown. >> seth: right. [ laughter ] >> and it was just that i didn't look at all -- i mean that was a campaign in which one reporter said i showed up in an ill-fitting suit. and i tried to defend the guy who sold me the suit by saying, it was actually a well-fitting suit. i just didn't happen to be the person that it fit. [ laughter ] and he got mad anyway so there was no point in trying to do that. [ laughter ] >> seth: you're here on a speci