>> swarthmore college in swarthmore, pennsylvania. an excellent school. $44,800 but giving out amazing amounts of aid and students are graduating with no loan debt. meeting that aid 100%. >> wow. where are students least happiest about their financial aid? >> this year it is "nyu," unusual sun spect on our list. price tag around $48,000, $49,000 a year, big loans a year. 35.5 after the four-year degree. >> a lot of debt. expensive to live in new york. best value. public and private. start with the private school. what's the best value out there? i asam you're looking at what you're getting for the money? >> true. what you're getting for the money and also the experiences a student was learning in the classroom. were challenged, professors were teachers, increased class discussion and then financial aid factors. were they meeting your need 100%? what overall student neepd was met and the average indebteds in students were graduating with, this year, swarthmore college. >> they're winning everything. >> they really are. well deserved. t

>> right now rated by our students is swarthmore college in pennsylvania. it's $47,800. >> ouch. >> but they're giving out amazing amounts of aid and students are actually graduating with no loan debt so they're meeting that aid 100%. >> wow. where are students least happy about their financial aid? >> this year it is nyu. they have been a usual suspect on our list and with a price tag of around $48,000, $49,000 a year students are graduating with big loans from nyu on average about $35,500 after they finish their four-year degree. >> that's a lot of debt. it's expensive to live in new york so maybe that's part of the story, too. let's talk about best values. public and private, start with the private school. what is the best value out there? i assume you're looking at what you're getting for the money. >> that's true. we tried to look at what you were getting for the money but also the experience a student was earning, wanted to make sure they were challenged, had good teachers, encouraged class discussions and then sticker prices and the financial aid fac

and philip jefferson of swarthmore college. he served as an economist the fed's board of governors.hilip jefferson, start with ben beanke he assessment of the ecomy. is there a good case for timism. >> i thi there a good case for optism. in addition the housing data thatoumentioned in the lead in, we >> ovr the banks, rnanke, ben bernank s they still face additional losses. >> well it continues tobe large loss. weknow foreclosuresre still running at nearecord levels. that is to the goi change soon. also they will take big hits from commeial real estate because there is a huge amount of debt in commercial real estatehat going to be coming due ove the rest of this year, inces year, 2011. much will be verdifficult to refinance because there is a huge overcapacity in commercial reaestate so tt is going to be a big hit. t also we have to keep in mind what we're talkg about wh we say optimis because it's tr, the economy was falling ve pidly in the fourth quarter. the first quarter of this year. now it's probably even growing mewhat. but there is really not mu dispute. we're going to contu