and then j-store, the guy committed suicide, was his name swartz or something like that, and they reversed the decision and it was on articles-- and this is a much more precise argument and you had the correct sense of this. when i was a contracting officer i dealt with sas. there was one of the software maintenance upfront, everybody else paid in arrears. [laughter] >> well, thank you. and you know, i think -- thank you for being a customer, i appreciate that. you know, sas is a great company that, you know, has done a lot for -- the uses that our customers make of our software are just phenomenal and we really love our customers and you know, i think in order to continue to become, you know, kind of one of those customers or companies that is on the cutting edge, this is what we need. we need an ability to determine what our business model is. it's really for us to determine that, i think once we figure out that the legal framework, how the legal framework that we're left with allows us to make those decisions and choices, but, you know, what we're seeing, i think, in in case is a-- an o