swett's hand moving to try to get to the sheriff's weapon.as able to restrain him, and he did not get his hand on the sheriff's weapon, which was holstered. >> clifford can't defend himself. he's handcuffed and remains silent during the struggle. >> he never moved. he never said a word. he never backed off. he never looked afraid. he just simply sat there. and even afterwards when they brought him back into the courtroom to finish the sentencing, he had absolutely no remorse for what he had done, none whatsoever. >> during the struggle, swett's heard crying out for his dead son. >> he's not yelling anything other than his own son's name, josh, over and over again. josh, his baby, josh, his son. >> officers and family members are trying to control swett, but the chaos escalates when someone in the courtroom begins yelling at the grieving father. >> that's when he started losing it. now if you watch the video, we have him up. he's getting under control a little bit. he slows down. his lip is bleeding a little bit from just the altercation we we

were you surprised to hear that kevin swett was arrested in this case?was arrested a few months ago, and we heard he was involved in it. but then they never said anything else to us, and yeah, it was a surprise today. >> had you ever seen him before personally? >> well, i think i saw him one time at the funerals. >> so you think he actually came to the girls' funerals? >> yes, ma'am. i think so. >> so how do you feel that he's now in custody? is it a feeling of relief? do you think this is the right person to the best of your intuition? >> i do. i think he's the person that did it. i'm relieved. my whole family's relieved. they're relieved, you know, because they've had a hard time with it. >> oh, yes. henrietta police department and moskogi police departments, they did a lot, and they never gave up. and they -- they just pursued it constantly, and i'm really proud of them. they brung a little closure for us. >> how did the rest of taylor's family feel, her parents and what was their reaction today? >> well, they're excited. it's hard for them still yet,

were you surprised to hear that kevin swett was arrested in this case?, and we heard he was involved in it. but then they never said anything else to us, and yeah, it was a surprise today. >> had you ever seen him before personally? >> well, i think i saw him one time at the funerals. >> so you think he actually came to the girls' funerals? >> yes, ma'am. i think so. >> so how do you feel that he's now in custody? is it a feeling of relief? do you think this is the right person to the best of your intuition? >> i do. i think he's the person that did it. i'm relieved. my whole family's relieved. they're relieved, you know, because they've had a hard time with it. >> oh, yes. henrietta police department and moskogi police departments, they did a lot, and they never gave up. and they -- they just pursued it constantly, and i'm really proud of them. they brung a little closure for us. >> how did the rest of taylor's family feel, her parents and what was their reaction today? >> well, they're excited. it's hard for them still yet, you know, they don't like to

katrina lantos swett. and i'm honored that your mother is here too. dr. swett established the lantos foundation for human rights and justice in 2008. she serves as president and chief executive officer and teaches human rights and american foreign policy at tufts university, my alma mater. katrina also taught at the university of southern denmark, director of graduate program of public policy in new england college. she has extensive academic background as also has a distinguished career in new hampshire politics as adviser, commentator and strategist. katrina and her husband, richard swett during his tenure representing new hampshire in u.s. congress and later when he served as united states ambassador in denmark worked on human rights issues and is also, was also key adviser to her father, the late congressman, tom lantos, someone's expertise we sorely miss especially as such issues as human rights and such issues as russia. and when i testified with katrina there was more than one voice in congress saying when are we going to have you in congress? last

lantos swett. i just wanted to note that my humble opinion economic sanctions are less judged on their efficacy than they are on their political convenience. for example partisan cart and -- carter did everything to get rid of economic sanctions against cuba but at the same time imposed economic sanctions against chile, rhodesia and south africa. regarding the south african case i just wanted to note that in certain circles nelson mandela's regarded as a model statesmen. is important to remember that he and his african national congress were financed by fidel castro and gadhafi in nelson mandela considered gadhafi and castro both tyrants to be as good friends and comrades in arms. thank you. >> well, think you are right that economic sanctions are at the end of the day a political statement. sometimes they work in terms of squeezing the economic situation in a given target country and other times they are like a sieve and not terribly effective but they are a way for a government to make a politica

i have a comment for this lantos swett. regarding the comment on economic sanctions i just wanted to note that my humble opinion economic sanctions are less judged on their efficacy than they are on their political convenience for a simple president carter did everything to get rid of economic sanctions against cuba, but at the same time imposed economic sanctions against chile, rhodesia and south africa. regarding the south african cases just wanted to know that in certain circles nelson mandela is regarded as a model statesman. it's important to remember that he and his african national conference were financed by the soviet union by fidel castro and by ghadafi and nelson mandela considered them both tyrants to be his friends and comrades in arms. >> thank you. >> i think you are right that economic sanctions are a the end of the day a political statement. sometimes the work in terms of squeezing the economic situation and it's hard at other times they are not terribly effective, but they are a way for a government to mak