we're talking with reverend swisher. a second big point? >> i think gay marriage. >> i thought we were done with that. >> well, a lot of the denominations haven't been inclusive. they've tried to stay split on the issue. the methodist church, my denomination is not inclusive. karl sandburg was asked what was the ugliest word in the english language and he said, exclusive, religion and race and gent -- gender and sexual identity. >> within the main line protestant churches, at least. this idea keeps coming back. not only gay marriage, but the ordination of transgender people. in the church, they decided the local option. that's the san francisco county -- they wish to ordain someone, on their terms, regardless ofth licks or whatever, that doesn't mean that a presbyterian would need to admit that person. i thought that was huge. >> it was. >> hundreds and hundreds of churches took the opportunity. hundreds say, you're not christian enough and we want to leave. it gets down to property and it fractures the sense of it. do you have predictions

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. >> kara swisher, who used to write about silicon valley for the wall street journal and now has a blogs digital, has called him the "toddler ceo." what do you think it's done to him as a person to be 23 years old... >> i think it's hard. i think when all of a sudden you're the smartest person in the world and you're the meal ticket for everybody and this is the big hit--this is the new google at this point--and so mark is under a lot of pressure, because everybody wants something from him. >> like the founders of google, larry page and sergey brin, mark zuckerberg is looked up to in silicon valley as a visionary. you seem to be replacing larry and sergey as the people out here who everyone's talking about. you're just staring at me. >> is that a question? >> we were warned that he can be awkward and reluctant to talk about himself, so we turned for help to his facebook page, which says he's a harvard alum. you're not a harvard alum. >> that's true. we don't have a setting for dropout, so... >> he dropped out of harvard in 2004, where he was intending to study psychology. his mom is a p