. >> so it is going to be a problem from the investors standpoint joining us on the phone is kara swisher. it's always great to get your take thanks for joining us. >> hi, thank you for having me >> you know, dan had brought up a very good point, an interesting one, in terms of facebook being, and i don't want to put words in his mouth, but basically the devil's spawn. from an investor standpoint, though, maybe that doesn't matter for now as long as advertisers and users continue to use this platform do you think eventually that it catches up with either parts of the equation >> i think it always catches up. but right now they can be as fickle as they want because their stock is up and so they get this pass. this ability to say it's okay because of the -- because they really are the only game in town and so they decided because there's a lot of legislation coming, possibly agentitrust action, to sidle up to the government but as mark has seen, he can violate rules and get away with it this is just a song that i keep singing and telling people and they're surprised that he does the same th