i got my medals, switchblade, seven years old, ice pick in my head. >> so what got you out of the gangand into the music? >> oh, no, no. my father was busy all the time. my mother was put in a mental home. so he was never home to look out after us. he was working and all. he was working with these guys. capone found out that they started a policy racket in the first black-owned businesses. the five and dime stores. they made $100 million one year in the '30s. that's like $1 billion, you know. he freaked out. he underestimated them. they -- he ran them out of chicago to mexico and the next day, my father came and got my brother and i and put us on the trailway bus with him and went to the northwest. >> thank god. and we are still going to the baby gangsters, right? doing everything, burning down dance halls and breaking into stores and everything, man. we broke into an army one weekend. we heard they had this lemon meringue pie and ice-cream. so we broke in and ate up all that and got tired and full and start fights. >> inside the place? y'all still in there? >> yeah. we had some pie fi