and then three, again going back to governor switser's comments. you know, a commission alone without the heat of the president and the bully pull pit of the president i think is going to matter very, very little. so you have a president who at this point is not out in front of this i think we're running out of time. there's an interesting book, i think it was rine hart and ro golf, professor from the university of maryland and from harvard who wrote a book "this time it's different" which chronicles the last years of history and once you get to 90% of debt to gdp, really bad things happen to one's economy. and we're close to that number. aren't we too late given the fact that the president isn't engaged and we're still at the commission level? >> alan said he couldn't quite hear. >> i have a hearing aid, but i would left it in the hotel. and somehow, the reverb ration, i can hear all that here but i don't quite get the corner. so it was a tough question and therefore i'll give it toers kin. >> we finish each other's sentences, we have dinner toget

and then three, again going back to governor switser's comments. you know, a commission alone without the heat of the president and the bully pull pit of the president i think is going to matter very, very little. so you have a president who at this point is not out in front of this i think we're running out of time. there's an interesting book, i think it was rine hart and ro golf, professor from the university of maryland and from harvard who wrote a book "this time it's different" which chronicles the last years of history and once you get to 90% of debt to gdp, really bad things happen to one's economy. and we're close to that number. aren't we too late given the fact that the president isn't engaged and we're still at the commission level? >> alan said he couldn't quite hear. >> i have a hearing aid, but i would left it in the hotel. and somehow, the reverb ration, i can hear all that here but i don't quite get the corner. so it was a tough question and therefore i'll give it toers kin. >> we finish each other's sentences, we have dinner toget