i mean, i would just be very careful with sy hersh. i know it suits your attitudes about nord stream and what happened. but i don't think it's consistent with logic or fact . those are my attitude about anything. does anyone really leave the cia you are there for 2 decades? are you in the cia now? of course not. when you read my book whistleblower, i testified against a cia director and you need to do a little more homework. no, i understand that, but it goes what you are saying now is exactly what i her, she's arguing that your believing that the new york times during the desired story about the largest atrocity of recent decades, the north stream explosions is from that playbook. that since i hi, she's laid a sub stack. i was saying that sy hersh has written an article without any evidence, citing anonymous sources. i haven't, you know, some of sy hersh is sources there. they're not people who are really credible. so therefore, it, you have to bake questions that how credible is sy hersh and then when you throw in the name of julian

her sy, hersh, that's what he did. his best work is his work on me. lie and be it not that was a work crime is work on out of grant in iraq. that was a work. right. you know, i'm just talking about the i see and how obviously the united states is not a member and launched a attack on the i c. c saying any i c c, judge would be arrested themselves if they ever dad went out of tech a not attacking the i. c. c. in fact, we're privately through the department of justice supporting the case against boon we are. this is a hag act in the u. s. congress, which allows the united states government to invade holland. if the i c. c tries to arrest and the u. s. official for war crimes, that's, that's an incredible nonstarter. that's not worth a lot of discussion. united states is not going to invade, no good daily, but it shows a certain type of attitude. arguably, you keep talking about russian terrorism and so forth. what do you think analysts at the cia and of the state department? how do they, how do they see this war progress

what do you mean sy? hersh has been a discredited journalist in recent years. did you not read is abu ghraib revelations during the iraq war 20 years ago? if you don't read itself about the chemical i'm talking about, i'm not talking about the older sy hersh. ok. what about the chemical weapons in syria? you know, it's what about.

you don't believe sy hersh a story that the nord stream was blown up by biden blink. and i knew lind ancillary archers pieces for the last few years. that have been based on very little evidence whatsoever. which is why he has trouble getting published in washington. and london, and he had to write his recent piece on some stack and he writes without evidence. he says he has one of the sources. he says can deal his sources. and the recent piece was typical. it was based on things that didn't happen. a joint press conference that didn't happen a joint statement that wasn't made. a lack of media attention to show says visit. this is an evidence of anything. when i look at the extreme pipeline, my 1st question would be, who benefits and who loses? and so i never thought the russians were involved because i was $11000000.00 investment, and i think they're going to block their own investment, the major gainer and all this was of course you prank because it forces russia to use the pipeline that runs through the ukraine. ok, before we before we believe that the desire to ne

you don't believe sy hersh a story that the north stream was blown up by by blank. and i knew linda solid archers pieces for the last few years that have been based on very little evidence whatsoever. which is why he has trouble getting published in washington. and london, and he had to write his recent piece on some stack and he writes without evidence. he says he has anonymous sources. he says can deal his sources. and the recent piece was typical. it was based on things that didn't happen. a joint press conference that didn't happen a joint statement that wasn't made. lack of media attention to show says.

according to sy hersh his article about how north stream was destroyed. this would have required approval, or at least acceptance or understanding by denmark. given that the blast site was just off the coast of foreign home island, which is danish territory, not to mention, according to her, she is reporting the bombs were planted during the nato exercises called bolt ops. denmark is a native member. up until this point, what was denmark relationship with russia, and now that denmark has rejected russia's request to conduct their own investigation? where does that put their future relations? well, the trust is completely gone, obviously. now that goes both ways. obviously, the denmark, us lost a lot of trust in russia, but also russia has lost all trust now in, in denmark, because, again, some on the attack, the energy infrastructure built by the russians. as you said before, i think everyone knows who's done it now, and that they are now seen to effectively obstruct an investigation in this kind of thing. so usually make you sound like a conspiracy if th

according to one of the greatest journalists in the world, sy hersh with julian assange, allegedly being tortured today in london. we will perhaps have to wait a while before new.

they become the norm after what happened and what sy hersh claims was they effectively abide and blink can sullivan. newland attack? sure, if you look around the world, what you see is and whether you see this in old days in columbia, you see it in yemen. everyone who gets mad basically that the pipelines and once it starts, basically every group that wants something they start to look at the iraq, for example, to they started the 2nd oil facilities and by whoever attacked that pipeline. basically, they just opened it can of water in this case where they are telling everyone, look, you can do that. you can literally do a copycat for whatever reason you want. and that was defeated at that time, that most of your basically is and they're, they're each of russia and fresh wants to retaliate. at the same time, there are other countries involved and they have interest to we already have seen some of our countries expressing better interest in either piping the gosh to euro, or sending it through l n g, or various message from from the us. that would be but that doesn't explain why this seem

and so look, we all know that side her she is telling the truth, we all know that sy hersh has extraordinary sources inside the american intelligence community. we know from 50 years of his writing, that when he writes something, it's true. the fact that some faceless, nameless bureaucrat at meta is deciding that we don't get to hear that opinion that we don't get to see the results of his investigative journalism is, is the threat. it's exemplary of the threat. facing americans to day in terms of controlling the flow of information. absolutely, and it's a reminder that if they're going to go after seeing more hearse and they're going to go after anyone else, it doesn't matter the accolades that you have earned throughout your career. now i guess the final question here is, what do you think that the increase in control over content on social media will eventually lead to well, on the one hand, i think that i think that things have turned around to twitter at least in fits and starts what you on musket, whether you like you on mosque or not, he's a free freedom of speech, absolutist which he

you know, i don't know, you get this larvae or was, it was pretty bad. sy hersh, i'll stop you there. more from the pulitzer prize winning legendary journalists after this break. ah ah in light of nature's assertion this past week, the ukraine will be a member of the military alliance. is natal planning for a direct military intervention in ukraine? if yes, then it intends on going to war with russia. ah ah ah ah, welcome back to going underground. i'm still here with pulitzer prize winning, legendary journalist seymour hersh, who i want to get on to. i mean, i should just also say that there's no you mentioned blink and there's no sign yet . there any element of corruption at that level, this is g, a strategic as far as where as blinking. no, there's not, he's a wesley collection insult, and he's a capital partner, hedge fund or equity company. there's nothing about that as this is donna lang residence. there's never been an issue. i mean he's, he's look, he's a perfectly, he's been, he's a great public servant. he is now the secretary state, but he's been biden's number one man, as,

yes, larva was was pretty bad. sy hersh, i'll stop you there. more from the pulitzer prize winning legendary journalists after this break. march 20th 2003. the u. s. army and its allies invaded iraq, especially he the say that to david. let me know. kind of said, was it anybody said nevada. 07. out of the lim dash of the hobby may the 1st 2003 us president george bush declared victory in the iraq war or the the projects are you know, up up, up for a potential hired to december. the 30th 2006 said i'm hussein was executed at adam. mm hm. we'll shuttle down from done december. the 15th 2011. a ceremony was held in bagdad tomorrow at the end of the u . s. military mission. in reality, the u. s. army is still in iraq, a blob. she had a village and still have football, football. awe neutrality is one of the most flexible concepts and international relations that you can imagine, which is why it's so useful, but why it is so inherently difficult to grasp. so that the chances we have is the country spirit with a meaning that is useful to them and hopef

you know, i don't know, you get this lava with pretty bad. sy hersh. i'll stop you there. more from the pulitzer prize winning legendary journalists after this break. ah, ah neutrality is one of the most flexible concept in international relations that you can imagine, which is why it's so useful. but why it is so inherently difficult to grasp so that the chances we have is that countries fill it with a meaning that is useful to them and hopefully to, to all this because at its core, it means i'm not taking decide of either of these completely ah ah ah, welcome back to going underground. i'm still here with pulitzer prize winning, legendary journalist seymour hersh. i want to get on to, i mean, i should just also say, there's no, you mentioned blinkin, there's no sign yet. there any element of corruption at that level, this is g o. strategic as far as far as blank? no, there's no, he's a west collection insult, and he's a capital bought in a hedge fund or equity company. there's nothing about that. this is the leg rallies . there's never been an issue. i mean he's, he's lo

you know, you get this larvae, it was, it was pretty bad. sy hersh, i'll stop you there. more from the pulitzer prize winning legendary journalists after this break. ah, ah ah ah, working with 2. ah ah, welcome back to going underground. i'm still here with pulitzer prize winning, legendary journalist, seymour hersh. i want to get on to, i mean, i should just also say there's no, you mentioned blink. and there's no sign yet of any element of corruption at that level. this is just, it's not, it is a wesley collection cell that does. this is the language as, as he rolls through carmen, he thinks he can bully people. and jake sullivan's biggest claim to fame was he was hillary's lawyer when she was in there during a lot of investigations including the g mail. and he also ended up working at brookings. with strobe talbott, who won, he was deputy secretary state in the clinton administration, was the major pusher for expanding nato to the east. that was, that was actually when the chinese embassy was bombed in you, he slavish when served all but with you to remember that you a