emily: what was the hardest thing you had to do at sybase? john: the initial rounds of letting people go, refocusing the company, and being able to convince the remaining employees and the people you try to recruit that there is a future. emily: and you eventually sold to s.a.p. john: eventually. long time. what, 13 years later? emily: people are telling you blackberry is already dead. john: yes. emily: why did you take this job? john: i think i flunked retirement. ♪ emily: you came out of sybase looking like a hero. with great ceo's and executives, there is often a myth about them that is boiled down to legend. what is the myth of john chen? and what is the reality? john: i actually think i'm a pretty simple, straightforward guy. i like working with people. i like focusing on objectives and results. most people ask me, why are you doing this? the company is already dead. to me, it is just, i am just trying to take one step at a time and do better every day. eventually, we will break through. i am more relaxed than most people think. emily: p

famously taking the enterprise software maker sybase from the verge of death to $5.8 billion powerhousehe is taking on what some say is an impossible job, leading blackberry's comeback. can he prove them wrong? and just how did he become the tech industry's fixer? my guest is today on "studio 1.0" is blackberry ceo john chen. thank you for joining us. john: thank you for having me.

we just sybase get overrun. one of the bases down there now being threatened by taliban and overrun. i worry we are beginning to see those initial indicators that we saw two years ago. >> one final question 1% of the population is was living. why did we do that? >> made sense from the perspective that it is a virtual highway into kandahar. should kandahar. should we have focused on kandahar city 1st? absolutely. our sequencing was off for political reasons having to do with the britts and the marine corps wanting to have their own. >> like trying to defeat nazi germany by attacking austria 1st. if you have a a question wait for the microphone and identify yourself this german. >> and with the voice of america afghan services. i have two questions, one question into in two parts. the 1st is pakistan. time time and again they have shown they are interested in having a foreign policy toward afghanistan. they have know power. what can the united states -- kind of a broad question, but what should the strategy for th

risk my social policy, smart tax policy and i don't see that it's very different from the spirit of sybase own thinking on these kinds of questions. >> twice they are you talked about other social values that would be diminished by the right. what were you referring to? give me an example of what would be diminished. >> so, for example, you could have been i have been in some of these debates you know in situations of political transition. you could say that you could obtain social justice by radical redistribution of land. you know this goes to places like south africa, where you take land away from people who wire you know, relatively privileged and give it to people who, you know who are poor, who are part of the oppressed group that can now finally achieved political power. now i actually think that one has to be very cautious about this. because there is a value to you know, the stability of property rights. it's not an absolute value. these people lived their whole lives on this land. probably it is the generation that didn't necessarily contribute directly or to put it differently,