interestn i'm going to sit down and read in love and war by vice admiral james stockdale and his wife sybil. >> what's remarkable about our distinguished leaders series, the first two, general mattis who was in your chair a couple months ago has an appendix that 63 books to his memoir, and you both earned, you are adamant that young officers and old be reading. can you expand on that? >> i had a chance to have dinner with a handful of the junior cadets who were here this evening, and the asthma can it do to prepare myself for militaryry service? i said a lot of things that are important, physical fitness, knowledge, tactics, all of that. the most important thing is to read. because the day you graduate from university is the day that you own your education. at the end of your life you will be the sum of what you're you ce to invest in that education. read, read, read it and to practically answer the question, only through picking up a book, a novel, for example, let's take gates the fire about the battle of -- by steven preston. you can put yourself in that moment. it's a simulator, a chanc