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sybrina sybrina and tracy, and i noted the changes that have been made in the wake of the shooting of trayvon martin and there's a victory in that. there's a child died and i think that because people took to social media and because 2.2 million americans changed the petition on change.org and demanded, not in an effort to persecute george zimmerman, but in an effort to say, that a black 17-year-old child should be able to walk home from the store and not be shot. >> yes. >> so, i think for the people who did that, i do not want them to be discouraged. i think they may have saved the life of another child. because i think that from now on, if there's someone that wants to follow someone with a gun, i think they will think twice about it. so for those people, i say thank you for everything and sanford is -- sanford is changed for the better. and i think that you know, there's grace and dignity in what these people did in the peaceful protests. >> thank you. and we have been watching the silver attorneys for the trayvon martin family tonight as we continue our coverage of the verdict that has been read and rendered in the case. a couple of hours now, that is settling in for the family of george zimmerman who is a free man tonight and for the family of trayvon martin who wanted to see what they termed as justice inity case, and they have in fact because the jury has rendered a verdict, not guilty for george zimmerman. the question will now shift to whether we will hear from any of the jurors and their want to answer questions that were had. they wanted to be anonymous throughout the preselection process and they were s sequestered throughout the trial. so we will see how that comes down. we heard from the defense attorneys for george zimmerman and his family. we have not heard directly from the zimmerman family, or from george zimmerman himself, of course, this evening and we will watch for that. we have so much more coverage for you now, geradlo rivera is live in sanford, florida, and has been as they have been deliberating all evening earlier today and yesterday, and throughout the trial he has been covering it. "geraldo at large," geraldo, you are with us? >> yes, i am, it's a fox news alert. geraldo rivera reporting on the verdict of george zimmerman. the tragic florida youngster, that happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. it was one of those awful tragedies in life, but not all tragedies are crimes. that is what happened here. they over charged george zimmerman, i believe, largely because of outside political pressure. political pressure from civil rights icons. political pressure, indeed from the white house itself. you recall the president of the united states suggesting that if he had a son, his son would look like trayvon martin. it is one of those awful confluences of politics and justice, and they do not mix. this is a case that the original officers remember, ladies and gentlemen, the original officers and the local prosecutor, decided not to bring against george zimmerman, remember the circumstances. here is george zimmerman the neighborhood watch captain in a beleigerred community, his retreat there, that had been burglarized and you know, robbed before by youngsters, who looked a lot like trayvon martin did to awful night, 16 months ago, when he went from his father's house to get the skittles and iced tea to bring them back to watch the all-star game. he was a stranger in the community, he had a hoodie on. hfs a rainy night, and his face not recognize aiblg to george zimmerman. zimmerman on alert because these punks get away with it. he has seen his community affected by the crimes and he was determined as watch captains are throughout communities around our country to keep their neighborhoods safe. not all deaths are criminal. this one clearly was over charged, there was no way on god's green earth that george zimmerman could have been found guilty of murdering trayvon martin. he didn't obviously have the ill will, the hatred and wreckless, utter disregard for the young man's life. he thought he was a hero. george zimmerman did. he thought that he was doing the right thing. and for the state to charge him with murder was purely, i submit to you, ladies and gentlemen, a political decision. the state prosecutor angela cory who you saw her doing her best to spin this defeat, this humiliating defeat for the office in the best political light, she brought a case, she could never win because of outside political pressure. i believe that. i believe she will be found to have surpressed evidence in the case. i think this really stinks. politics and justice should just not mix as i gather here outside the criminal justice center with people who are obviously disappointed. we will speak to them and speak to others along the way, we have an excellent panel for you. let me begin with the judge, who has been here, careful, come on, who has been here reporting on this as i have been now jeanine, you heard any remarks, dramatic but not unexpected, what say you? >> i think we were all expecting a not guilty verdict. geraldo, you made the point that i made earlier tonight. that is, that the duty of a prosecutor is to follow the law and make sure that the facts are sufficient to go forward and prove a case beyond a reasonable doubt to the satisfaction of all the jurors. it was clear that there was not sufficient evidence, which tells me why the case was not sent is to the grand jury. that it was a political decision. but, you know, the problem is that a 17-year-old is dead. this kid had skittles and iced tea, he did not deserve that. he did not expect it. his family does not know how to deal with it now. but unchfortunately, by bringin the charges for which there was no evidence. the prosecutor crossed the line into the world of politics. into the world of justice for a particular party or group. it was wrong. not surprising what the verdict was based upon the evidence. >> if i can, follow me. let's ask some of these people who have been here protesting, how do you feel about the verdict, you have to tell us? >> i'm very hurt, and a lot of us are hurt and bitter. because when it all started, zimmerman was asked not to pursue trayvon, he was a 17-year-old child has lost his life, because a grown man got out of his car and took things in his own hand as if he was an officer to bother somebody who was in the right place. he lived there. and justice has not been served so we do know now that we are dealing with an injustice system. a broken system. >> you don't credit that whole notion that it was an unfortunate accident that george zimmerman did not set out to kill that youngster? >> it's not an accident. and what we are not understanding here is our lead prosecutor does a very great job in prosecuting young black men in jacksonville, florida, but for some reason, failed to prosecute zimmerman, we are not understanding how that came about. >> you do not expect that there will be any violence or any disorder? >> no, we are not hoping and praying that it don't be any violence. what we are doing here tonight is we are all going to unite and we are all going to go ahead and challenge the injustice system that we have. and we are also going to go to the governor's mansion and protest. so all different races, we are all going to come together and challenge the in justice system we have. >> so jeanine, we have a situation where i wish this had a result that was more fair. and the result would have been no prosecution. the result that should have happened is that george zimmerman should have been chastized or sued by the family. youn. but the justice system and the political system in this country must remain separate. and the president on down, i believe, they crossed the line. there's no question that the president crossed the line when he said that trayvon could be my son. what that did was it basically geared everything up to we have to prosecute and now a special prosecutor and the fbi. there needs to be more, a young boy is dead. but you do not abuse the system. you do not inject politics into justice. >> my friend, and our friend, juan williams is among the guests who are gathered tonight, juan is in the washington, d.c. bureau. juan, you wrote an excellent column for fox news. that suggested that both these men profiled each other. george zimmerman looked at trayvon martin and saw a person just like the people who had been convict miezing his neighborhood and making his neighbors suffer. that was the person he saw, he saw another hyde wearing thug from the neighborhood that was going to come and perpetrate another burglary or robbery. trayvon martin on his behalf, you know, the kid was living in miami with his mom, he was up in orlando, in the sanford, florida, visiting his dad, stranger in a strange place, he goes to do something perfectly legal, taking a known cut and he looks at zimmerman and in his words, sees a creepy-ass white cracker that is stalking him. they both profiled each other. should this be a race case? should the president of the united states been involved? >> no question, that race was involved geraldo, it's not a race case in the sense that i think that you know, a lot of the media has super imposed that racial frame work on the case improperly, the story, the prosecutor said it right. that you know what? there was race involved here, but it's not the story, maybe race was part of the profiling that went on in zimmerman's mind, it's not the overall story. it's not a racial case. how can most white people are relieved, isn't this oj simpson reversed? >> i hope not. i hope that people did not make george zimmerman into a hero. >> conservatives are all rooting for george zimmerman, i would point out that george zimmerman may be described as hispanic in a difference situation. there was a sense of injustice, the fact that there was a dead child and someone killed him and we don't know how to deal with it and we think something should be done when someone kills a child that is unarmed. so technically, the -- >> the president -- >> hold on, hold on, the family asked for justice, the team knew that their child, no one had been arrested and put through the legal process and their child was dead. what we can say tonight is that the legal process went forward. the man was charged. and a jury gave their verdict. it may be that they did so on a technical legal basis, in terms of what second degree murder would have required to find him guilty or even manslaughter. there's an absence of wisdom and heart and that is why you think, you know what? why is it that this child is dead and you say, all white people are happy? i do not believe that. >> i'm not saying all white people. do not put words in my mouth. i'm saying generally speaking, if you were told that white -- >> you said that black people are unhappy and white people are happy. >> i did not say all. >> i think -- >> juan, this case should never have been brought. this case should never have been brought. if it was not for race politics. you had the reverend jesse jackson, and the million hoodie march. this case would never have been brought at the level of murder in the second degree. that was a stunning unsupportable charge. why do you think i was so confident this many weeks and months predicting an acquittal, it was not because i'm a show boater who is sticking my neck out. it just did not qualify under the terms of the statute. it would not have been brought. if it was not for the aspect of race and politics. judge? >> juan, your premise is wrong. it's just wrong t the job of a prosecute senior to bring charges not to satisfy the public. not to make believe that the law does not cover it in terms of a crime, well we will just air it publically. that is not the purpose of the criminal justice system. the purpose of a prosecutor and bringing a charge is when you have the evidence. and prosecutors across this country know what the law is and what they are obligation is. we do not bring charges to make people feel better. we don't bring charges to air the facts in front of the public. we bring charges when we can prove the facts beyond a reasonable doubt. the just is system is not set up to satisfy -- >> i think you heard -- >> do not interrupt me. the justice system is not here to satisfy the political interests of a particular party. >> now, juan you are up. >> i think you heard from the prosecutor. he said that in his opinion, it was a second degree charge, zimmerman had tracked trayvon martin, had a gun on him, got out of the car, and he believes at that point, that there was some malice involved. as i said, i think the jury and i think the defense team made the case that really, the incident starts with the fight. and that is why they view it differencely. but, again, that is a technical call, the verdict made the verdict. >> it's not -- one person is dead, and he can't speak. >> that's right. the boy can't speak. he is dead. but again, there's a sense -- >> right. >> there's a sense in the country that there's injustice when you have a dead child and nobody, the criminal justice system does not respond and i think that is why there was pressure. geraldo, you asked me earlier about president obama, and let he me say -- >> listen, here is president obama. here is the president, here is the president of the united states and i will get back to juan and you can respond. >> i can only imagine what these parents are going through. and when i think about this boy, i think about my own kids. my main message is, to the parents of trayvon martin. you know, fif i had a son, he would look like trayvon. >> juan, that's an awfully extraordinary intervention of the land here. if he began stepping in in every case that an injustice was perceived or foreseen, he would be the prosecutor of the land. it's hard to not believe that there's no connection between what the president of the united states said that afternoon and the charges longed against the neighborhood watchman or neighborhood vigilante, whatever you want to call him, what every legal observer said this is unsupportable by the facts and certainly by the law. >> what the president said was political. because he is the epitome of politics, he is the president. but i think i have heard from governor jeb bush when the stand your ground law was put in place, and he said he did not think it applied to this case and he thought there was a problem here with the lack of criminal prosecution. so -- >> no. no. >> i think everyone, everybody, republican or democrat was curious about why no one was arrested why there did not seem to be prosecution, why there was not actions taken. and you know what? -- >> because some tragedies are not criminal. some tragedies are -- they are tragedies. that's why, these two people came together in a way that was tragic, that the circumstances showed that this was a an awful, painful accident. >> that is -- we all respect the verdict, geraldo. >> what about the fact that apparently the special prosecutor's office withheld evidence from the defense. evidence that showed trayvon, puffing smoke and holding a weapon and jewelry on the bed and they did not let the defense see the pictures so recently that the i.t. guy had to give it himself as a whistle blower to the defense team and now, there will be an investigation and sanctions sought? this is a very big deal. >> they fired him. >> they fired the guy yesterday who identified the information that was not given to the defense. >> all right, now, i do not want to, juan, you sit there tonight, and we wouldn't justice, we want racial harm any. i do not think the cause of racial harm any is enhanced by pandering and bringing charges that lawyers in a -- in the sober reflection of professional conduct would never bring. if this was two white guys they never would have charged anybody. >> oh, yes. >> i don't know -- >> if it was two white guys or two black guys you would not have had a jury. >> you have legal training, i don't. but let me just tell you, i think there was a concerted, there was tremendous concern nationwide that nobody was held to account and there was a dead child. and whether that is political pressure or not, politics sometimes interveens in our justice system, but in many cases it's appropriate in terms of bringing justice, had geraldo. >> i hear you loud and clear and i love you, you are my brother and thank you very much for coming on, juan williams. i have to take a short break we have got a stellar panel to lead you through the night to discuss this case that has affected so many lives. the disappointment felt by the people behind me and the people, you know, who gather here outside the courtroom, palpable, the supporters of the trayvon martin family and i think that these parents. i have to say this, my heart bleeds for the martin parents. they were good people. they are good people, tracy mart martin the dad, a wonderful, respectable, hard working loving dad, and sybrina fulton, loving mom, did her best with trayvon, they tried so hard. this is not one of those cases where the kid had no supervision, no dad at home. this is not one of those cases. it's a child that had wonderful parents and was trying the best. our hearts go out to then. i have to stress though, my name is mike and i quit smoking. chantix... it's a non-nicotine pill. i didn't want nicotine to give up nicotine. 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sybrina sybrina and tracy, and i noted the changes that have been made in the wake of the shooting of trayvon martin and there's a victory in that. there's a child died and i think that because people took to social media and because 2.2 million americans changed the petition on change.org and demanded, not in an effort to persecute george zimmerman, but in an effort to say, that a black 17-year-old child should be able to walk home from the store and not be shot. >> yes. >> so, i think for the people who did that, i do not want them to be discouraged. i think they may have saved the life of another child. because i think that from now on, if there's someone that wants to follow someone with a gun, i think they will think twice about it. so for those people, i say thank you for everything and sanford is -- sanford is changed for the better. and i think that you know, there's grace and dignity in what these people did in the peaceful protests. >> thank you. and we have been watching the silver attorneys for the trayvon martin family tonight as we continue our coverage of the verdict that has been read and rendered in the case. a couple of hours now, that is settling in for the family of george zimmerman who is a free man tonight and for the family of trayvon martin who wanted to see what they termed as justice inity case, and they have in fact because the jury has rendered a verdict, not guilty for george zimmerman. the question will now shift to whether we will hear from any of the jurors and their want to answer questions that were had. they wanted to be anonymous throughout the preselection process and they were s sequestered throughout the trial. so we will see how that comes down. we heard from the defense attorneys for george zimmerman and his family. we have not heard directly from the zimmerman family, or from george zimmerman himself, of course, this evening and we will watch for that. we have so much more coverage for you now, geradlo rivera is live in sanford, florida, and has been as they have been deliberating all evening earlier today and yesterday, and throughout the trial he has been covering it. "geraldo at large," geraldo, you are with us? >> yes, i am, it's a fox news alert. geraldo rivera reporting on the verdict of george zimmerman. the tragic florida youngster, that happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. it was one of those awful tragedies in life, but not all tragedies are crimes. that is what happened here. they over charged george zimmerman, i believe, largely because of outside political pressure. political pressure from civil rights icons. political pressure, indeed from the white house itself. you recall the president of the united states suggesting that if he had a son, his son would look like trayvon martin. it is one of those awful confluences of politics and justice, and they do not mix. this is a case that the original officers remember, ladies and gentlemen, the original officers and the local prosecutor, decided not to bring against george zimmerman, remember the circumstances. here is george zimmerman the neighborhood watch captain in a beleigerred community, his retreat there, that had been burglarized and you know, robbed before by youngsters, who looked a lot like trayvon martin did to awful night, 16 months ago, when he went from his father's house to get the skittles and iced tea to bring them back to watch the all-star game. he was a stranger in the community, he had a hoodiehfs a not recognize aiblg to george zimmerman. zimmerman on alert because these punks get away with it. he has seen his community affected by the crimes and he was determined as watch captains are throughout communities around our country to keep their neighborhoods safe. not all deaths are criminal. this one clearly was over charged, there was no way on god's green earth that george zimmerman could have been found guilty of murdering trayvon martin. he didn't obviously have the ill will, the hatred and wreckless, utter disregard for the young man's life. he thought he was a hero. george zimmerman did. he thought that he was doing the right thing. and for the state to charge him with murder was purely, i submit to you, ladies and gentlemen, a political decision. the state prosecutor angela cory who you saw her doing her best to spin this defeat, this humiliating defeat for the office in the best political light, she brought a case, she could never win because of outside political pressure. i believe that. i believe she will be found to have surpressed evidence in the case. i think this really stinks. politics and justice should just not mix as i gather here outside the criminal justice center with people who are obviously disappointed. we will speak to them and speak to others along the way, we have an excellent panel for you. let me begin with the judge, who has been here, careful, come on, who has been here reporting on this as i have been now jeanine, you heard any remarks, dramatic but not unexpected, what say you? >> i think we were all expecting a not guilty verdict. geraldo, you made the point that i made earlier tonight. that is, that the duty of a prosecutor is to follow the law and make sure that the facts are sufficient to go forward and prove a case beyond a reasonable doubt to the satisfaction of all the jurors. it was clear that there was not sufficient evidence, which tells me why the case was not sent is to the grand jury. that it was a political decision. but, you know, the problem is that a 17-year-old is dead. this kid had skittles and iced tea, he did not deserve that. he did not expect it. his family does not know how to deal with it now. but unchfortunately, by bringin the charges for which there was no evidence. the prosecutor crossed the line into the world of politics. into the world of justice for a particular party or group. it was wrong. not surprising what the verdict was based upon the evidence. >> if i can, follow me. let's ask some of these people who have been here protesting, how do you feel about the verdict, you have to tell us? >> i'm very hurt, and a lot of us are hurt and bitter. because when it all started, zimmerman was asked not to pursue trayvon, he was a 17-year-old child has lost his life, because a grown man got out of his car and took things in his own hand as if he was an officer to bother somebody who was in the right place. he lived there. and justice has not been served so we do know now that we are dealing with an injustice system. a broken system. >> you don't credit that whole notion that it was an unfortunate accident that george zimmerman did not set out to kill that youngster? >> it's not an accident. and what we are not understanding here is our lead prosecutor does a very great job in prosecuting young black men in jacksonville, florida, but for some reason, failed to prosecute zimmerman, we are not understanding how that came about. >> you do not expect that there will be any violence or any disorder? >> no, we are not hoping and praying that it don't be any violence. what we are doing here tonight is we are all going to unite and we are all going to go ahead and challenge the injustice system that we have. and we are also going to go to the governor's mansion and protest. so all different races, we are all going to come together and challenge the in justice system we have. >> so jeanine, we have a situation where i wish this had a result that was more fair. and the result would have been no prosecution. the result that should have happened is that george zimmerman should have been chastized or sued by the family. youn. but the justice system and the political system in this country must remain separate. and the president on down, i believe, they crossed the line. there's no question that the president crossed the line when he said that trayvon could be my son. what that did was it basically geared everything up to we have to prosecute and now a special prosecutor and the fbi. there needs to be more, a young boy is dead. but you do not abuse the system. you do not inject politics into justice. >> my friend, and our friend, juan williams is among the guests who are gathered tonight, juan is in the washington, d.c. bureau. juan, you wrote an excellent column for fox news. that suggested that both these men profiled each other. george zimmerman looked at trayvon martin and saw a person just like the people who had been convict miezing his neighborhood and making his neighbors suffer. that was the person he saw, he saw another hyde wearing thug from the neighborhood that was going to come and perpetrate another burglary or robbery. trayvon martin on his behalf, you know, the kid was living in miami with his mom, he was up in orlando, in the sanford, florida, visiting his dad, stranger in a strange place, he goes to do something perfectly legal, taking a known cut and he looks at zimmerman and in his words, sees a creepy-ass white cracker that is stalking him. they both profiled each other. should this be a race case? should the president of the united states been involved? >> no question, that race was involved geraldo, it's not a race case in the sense that i think that you know, a lot of the media has super imposed that racial frame work on the case improperly, the story, the prosecutor said it right. that you know what? there was race involved here, but it's not the story, maybe race was part of the profiling that went on in zimmerman's mind, it's not the overall story. it's not a racial case. how can most white people are relieved, isn't this oj simpson reversed? >> i hope not. i hope that people did not make george zimmerman into a hero. >> conservatives are all rooting for george zimmerman, i would point out that george zimmerman may be described as hispanic in a difference situation. there was a sense of injustice, the fact that there was a dead child and someone killed him and we don't know how to deal with it and we think something should be done when someone kills a child that is unarmed. so technically, the -- >> the president -- >> hold on, hold on, the family asked for justice, the team knew that their child, no one had been arrested and put through the legal process and their child was dead. what we can say tonight is that the legal process went forward. the man was charged. and a jury gave their verdict. it may be that they did so on a technical legal basis, in terms of what second degree murder would have required to find him guilty or even manslaughter. there's an absence of wisdom and heart and that is why you think, you know what? why is it that this child is dead and you say, all white people are happy? i do not believe that. >> i'm not saying all white people. do not put words in my mouth. i'm saying generally speaking, if you were told that white -- >> you said that black people are unhappy and white people are happy. >> i did not say all. >> i think -- >> juan, this case should never have been brought. this case should never have been brought. if it was not for race politics. you had the reverend jesse jackson, and the million hoodie march. this case would never have been brought at the level of murder in the second degree. that was a stunning unsupportable charge. why do you think i was so confident this many weeks and months predicting an acquittal, it was not because i'm a show boater who is sticking my neck out. it just did not qualify under the terms of the statute. it would not have been brought. if it was not for the aspect of race and politics. judge? >> juan, your premise is wrong. it's just wrong t the job of a prosecute senior to bring charges not to satisfy the public. not to make believe that the law does not cover it in terms of a crime, well we will just air it publically. that is not the purpose of the criminal justice system. the purpose of a prosecutor and bringing a charge is when you have the evidence. and prosecutors across this country know what the law is and what they are obligation is. we do not bring charges to make people feel better. we don't bring charges to air the facts in front of the public. we bring charges when we can prove the facts beyond a reasonable doubt. the just is system is not set up to satisfy -- >> i think you heard -- >> do not interrupt me. the justice system is not here to satisfy the political interests of a particular party. >> now, juan you are up. >> i think you heard from the prosecutor. he said that in his opinion, it was a second degree charge, zimmerman had tracked trayvon martin, had a gun on him, got out of the car, and he believes at that point, that there was some malice involved. as i said, i think the jury and i think the defense team made the case that really, the incident starts with the fight. and that is why they view it differencely. but, again, that is a technical call, the verdict made the verdict. >> it's not -- one person is dead, and he can't speak. >> that's right. the boy can't speak. he is dead. but again, there's a sense -- >> right. >> there's a sense in the country that there's injustice when you have a dead child and nobody, the criminal justice system does not respond and i think that is why there was pressure. geraldo, you asked me earlier about president obama, and let he me say -- >> listen, here is president obama. here is the president, here is the president of the united states and i will get back to juan and you can respond. >> i can only imagine what these parents are going through. and when i think about this boy, i think about my own kids. my main message is, to the parents of trayvon martin. you know, fif i had a son, he would look like trayvon. >> juan, that's an awfully extraordinary intervention of the land here. if he began stepping in in every case that an injustice was perceived or foreseen, he would be the prosecutor of the land. it's hard to not believe that there's no connection between what the president of the united states said that afternoon and the charges longed against the neighborhood watchman or neighborhood vigilante, whatever you want to call him, what every legal observer said this is unsupportable by the facts and certainly by the law. >> what the president said was political. because he is the epitome of politics, he is the president. but i think i have heard from governor jeb bush when the stand your ground law was put in place, and he said he did not think it applied to this case and he thought there was a problem here with the lack of criminal prosecution. so -- >> no. no. >> i think everyone, everybody, republican or democrat was curious about why no one was arrested why there did not seem to be prosecution, why there was not actions taken. and you know what? -- >> because some tragedies are not criminal. some tragedies are -- they are tragedies. that's why, these two people came together in a way that was tragic, that the circumstances showed that this was a an awful, painful accident. >> that is -- we all respect the verdict, geraldo. >> what about the fact that apparently the special prosecutor's office withheld evidence from the defense. evidence that showed trayvon, puffing smoke and holding a weapon and jewelry on the bed and they did not let the defense see the pictures so recently that the i.t. guy had to give it himself as a whistle blower to the defense team and now, there will be an investigation and sanctions sought? this is a very big deal. >> they fired him. >> they fired the guy yesterday who identified the information that was not given to the defense. >> all right, now, i do not want to, juan, you sit there tonight, and we wouldn't justice, we want racial harm any. i do not think the cause of racial harm any is enhanced by pandering and bringing charges that lawyers in a -- in the sober reflection of professional conduct would never bring. if this was two white guys they never would have charged anybody. >> oh, yes. >> i don't know -- >> if it was two white guys or two black guys you would not have had a jury. >> you have legal training, i don't. but let me just tell you, i think there was a concerted, there was tremendous concern nationwide that nobody was held to account and there was a dead child. and whether that is political pressure or not, politics sometimes interveens in our justice system, but in many cases it's appropriate in terms of bringing justice, had geraldo. >> i hear you loud and clear and i love you, you are my brother and thank you very much for coming on, juan williams. i have to take a short break we have got a stellar panel to lead you through the night to discuss this case that has affected so many lives. the disappointment felt by the people behind me and the people, you know, who gather here outside the courtroom, palpable, the supporters of the trayvon martin family and i think that these parents. i have to say this, my heart bleeds for the martin parents. they were good people. they are good people, tracy mart martin the dad, a wonderful, respectable, hard working loving dad, and sybrina fulton, loving mom, did her best with trayvon, they tried so hard. this is not one of those cases where the kid had no supervision, no dad at home. this is not one of those cases. it's a child that had wonderful parents and was trying the best. our hearts go out to then. i have to stress though, sometimes tragedies are not >> this is a fox news alert, we are in sanford, florida, in this community that was racked by passion, by division, since this incident happened 16 months ago. and this young man was snuffed out before his life was able to begin, who was shot by the neighborhood watch captain, who thought he was doing what was best for his community. there has been dramatically different reactions to the verdict in the case. craig is with some of the people now and this is an illustration of how different the response is. go ahead, craig, who are you with? >> this is james mohamed ed a, is with the new black panthers. they were respectful when the verdict was read, but it was a minu

sybrina sybrina and tracy, and i noted the changes that have been made in the wake of the shooting of trayvon martin and there's a victory in that. there's a child died and i think that because people took to social media and because 2.2 million americans changed the petition on change.org and demanded, not in an effort to persecute george zimmerman, but in an effort to say, that a black 17-year-old child should be able to walk home from the store and not be shot. >> yes. >> so, i think for the people who did that, i do not want them to be discouraged. i think they may have saved the life of another child. because i think that from now on, if there's someone that wants to follow someone with a gun, i think they will think twice about it. so for those people, i say thank you for everything and sanford is -- sanford is changed for the better. and i think that you know, there's grace and dignity in what these people did in the peaceful protests. >> thank you. and we have been watching the silver attorneys for the trayvon martin family tonight as we continue our coverage of the verdict that has been read and rendered in the case. a couple of hours now, that is settling in for the family of george zimmerman who is a free man tonight and for the family of trayvon martin who wanted to see what they termed as justice inity case, and they have in fact because the jury has rendered a verdict, not guilty for george zimmerman. the question will now shift to whether we will hear from any of the jurors and their want to answer questions that were had. they wanted to be anonymous throughout the preselection process and they were s sequestered throughout the trial. so we will see how that comes down. we heard from the defense attorneys for george zimmerman and his family. we have not heard directly from the zimmerman family, or from george zimmerman himself, of course, this evening and we will watch for that. we have so much more coverage for you now, geradlo rivera is live in sanford, florida, and has been as they have been deliberating all evening earlier today and yesterday, and throughout the trial he has been covering it. "geraldo at large," geraldo, you are with us? >> yes, i am, it's a fox news alert. geraldo rivera reporting on the verdict of george zimmerman. the tragic florida youngster, that happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. it was one of those awful tragedies in life, but not all tragedies are crimes. that is what happened here. they over charged george zimmerman, i believe, largely because of outside political pressure. political pressure from civil rights icons. political pressure, indeed from the white house itself. you recall the president of the united states suggesting that if he had a son, his son would look like trayvon martin. it is one of those awful confluences of politics and justice, and they do not mix. this is a case that the original officers remember, ladies and gentlemen, the original officers and the local prosecutor, decided not to bring against george zimmerman, remember the circumstances. here is george zimmerman the neighborhood watch captain in a beleigerred community, his retreat there, that had been burglarized and you know, robbed before by youngsters, who looked a lot like trayvon martin did to awful night, 16 months ago, when he went from his father's house to get the skittles and iced tea to bring them back to watch the all-star game. he was a stranger in the community, he had a hoodie on. hfs a rainy night, and his face not recognize aiblg to george zimmerman. zimmerman on alert because these punks get away with it. he has seen his community affected by the crimes and he was determined as watch captains are throughout communities around our country to keep their neighborhoods safe. not all deaths are criminal. this one clearly was over charged, there was no way on god's green earth that george zimmerman could have been found guilty of murdering trayvon martin. he didn't obviously have the ill will, the hatred and wreckless, utter disregard for the young man's life. he thought he was a hero. george zimmerman did. he thought that he was doing the right thing. and for the state to charge him with murder was purely, i submit to you, ladies and gentlemen, a political decision. the state prosecutor angela cory who you saw her doing her best to spin this defeat, this humiliating defeat for the office in the best political light, she brought a case, she could never win because of outside political pressure. i believe that. i believe she will be found to have surpressed evidence in the case. i think this really stinks. politics and justice should just not mix as i gather here outside the criminal justice center with people who are obviously disappointed. we will speak to them and speak to others along the way, we have an excellent panel for you. let me begin with the judge, who has been here, careful, come on, who has been here reporting on this as i have been now jeanine, you heard any remarks, dramatic but not unexpected, what say you? >> i think we were all expecting a not guilty verdict. geraldo, you made the point that i made earlier tonight. that is, that the duty of a prosecutor is to follow the law and make sure that the facts are sufficient to go forward and prove a case beyond a reasonable doubt to the satisfaction of all the jurors. it was clear that there was not sufficient evidence, which tells me why the case was not sent is to the grand jury. that it was a political decision. but, you know, the problem is that a 17-year-old is dead. this kid had skittles and iced tea, he did not deserve that. he did not expect it. his family does not know how to deal with it now. but unchfortunately, by bringin the charges for which there was no evidence. the prosecutor crossed the line into the world of politics. into the world of justice for a. it was wrong. not surprising what the verdict was based upon the evidence. >> if i can, follow me. let's ask some of these people who have been here protesting, how do you feel about the verdict, you have to tell us? >> i'm very hurt, and a lot of us are hurt and bitter. because when it all started, zimmerman was asked not to pursue trayvon, he was a 17-year-old child has lost his life, because a grown man got out of his car and took things in his own hand as if he was an officer to bother somebody who was in the right place. he lived there. and justice has not been served so we do know now that we are dealing with an injustice system. a broken system. >> you don't credit that whole notion that it was an unfortunate accident that george zimmerman did not set out to kill that youngster? >> it's not an accident. and what we are not understanding here is our lead prosecutor does a very great job in prosecuting young black men in jacksonville, florida, but for some reason, failed to prosecute zimmerman, we are not understanding how that came about. >> you do not expect that there will be any violence or any disorder? >> no, we are not hoping and praying that it don't be any violence. what we are doing here tonight is we are all going to unite and we are all going to go ahead and challenge the injustice system that we have. and we are also going to go to the governor's mansion and protest. so all different races, we are all going to come together and challenge the in justice system we have. >> so jeanine, we have a situation where i wish this had a result that was more fair. and the result would have been no prosecution. the result that should have happened is that george zimmerman should have been chastized or sued by the family. youn. but the justice system and the political system in this country must remain separate. and the president on down, i believe, they crossed the line. there's no question that the president crossed the line when he said that trayvon could be my son. what that did was it basically geared everything up to we have to prosecute and now a special prosecutor and the fbi. there needs to be more, a young boy is dead. but you do not abuse the system. you do not inject politics into justice. >> my friend, and our friend, juan williams is among the guests who are gathered tonight, juan is in the washington, d.c. bureau. juan, you wrote an excellent column for fox news. that suggested that both these men profiled each other. george zimmerman looked at trayvon martin and saw a person just like the people who had been convict miezing his neighborhood and making his neighbors suffer. that was the person he saw, he saw another hyde wearing thug from the neighborhood that was going to come and perpetrate another burglary or robbery. trayvon martin on his behalf, you know, the kid was living in miami with his mom, he was up in orlando, in the sanford, florida, visiting his dad, stranger in a strange place, he goes to do something perfectly legal, taking a known cut and he looks at zimmerman and in his words, sees a creepy-ass white cracker that is stalking him. they both profiled each other. should this be a race case? should the president of the united states been involved? >> no question, that race was involved geraldo, it's not a race case in the sense that i think that you know, a lot of the media has super imposed that racial frame work on the case improperly, the story, the prosecutor said it right. that you know what? there was race involved here, but it's not the story, maybe race was part of the profiling that went on in zimmerman's mind, it's not the overall story. it's not a racial case. how can most white people are relieved, isn't this oj simpson reversed? >> i hope not. i hope that people did not make george zimmerman into a hero. >> conservatives are all rooting for george zimmerman, i would point out that george zimmerman may be described as hispanic in a difference situation. there was a sense of injustice, the fact that there was a dead child and someone killed him and we don't know how to deal with it and we think something should be done when someone kills a child that is unarmed. so technically, the -- >> the president -- >> hold on, hold on, the family asked for justice, the team knew that their child, no one had been arrested and put through the legal process and their child was dead. what we can say tonight is that the legal process went forward. the man was charged. and a jury gave their verdict. it may be that they did so on a technical legal basis, in terms of what second degree murder would have required to find him guilty or even manslaughter. there's an absence of wisdom and heart and that is why you think, you know what? why is it that this child is dead and you say, all white people are happy? i do not believe that. >> i'm not saying all white people. do not put words in my mouth. i'm saying generally speaking, if you were told that white -- >> you said that black people are unhappy and white people are happy. >> i did not say all. >> i think -- >> juan, this case should never have been brought. this case should never have been brought. if it was not for race politics. you had the reverend jesse jackson, and the million hoodie march. this case would never have been brought at the level of murder in the second degree. that was a stunning unsupportable charge. why do you think i was so confident this many weeks and months predicting an acquittal, it was not because i'm a show boater who is sticking my neck out. it just did not qualify under the terms of the statute. it would not have been brought. if it was not for the aspect of race and politics. judge? >> juan, your premise is wrong. it's just wrong t the job of a prosecute senior to bring charges not to satisfy the public. not to make believe that the law does not cover it in terms of a crime, well we will just air it publically. that is not the purpose of the criminal justice system. the purpose of a prosecutor and bringing a charge is when you have the evidence. and prosecutors across this country know what the law is and what they are obligation is. we do not bring charges to make people feel better. we don't bring charges to air the facts in front of the public. we bring charges when we can prove the facts beyond a reasonable doubt. the just is system is not set up to satisfy -- >> i think you heard -- >> do not interrupt me. the justice system is not here to satisfy the political interests of a particular party. >> now, juan you are up. >> i think you heard from the prosecutor. he said that in his opinion, it was a second degree charge, zimmerman had tracked trayvon martin, had a gun on him, got out of the car, and he believes at that point, that there was some malice involved. as i said, i think the jury and i think the defense team made the case that really, the incident starts with the fight. and that is why they view it differencely. but, again, that is a technical call, the verdict made the verdict. >> it's not -- one person is dead, and he can't speak. >> that's right. the boy can't speak. he is dead. but again, there's a sense -- >> right. >> there's a sense in the country that there's injustice when you have a dead child and nobody, the criminal justice system does not respond and i think that is why there was pressure. geraldo, you asked me earlier about president obama, and let he me say -- >> listen, here is president obama. here is the president, here is the president of the united states and i will get back to juan and you can respond. >> i can only imagine what these parents are going through. and when i think about this boy, i think about my own kids. my main message is, to the parents of trayvon martin. you know, fif i had a son, he would look like trayvon. >> juan, that's an awfully extraordinary intervention of the land here. if he began stepping in in every case that an injustice was perceived or foreseen, he would be the prosecutor of the land. it's hard to not believe that there's no connection between what the president of the united states said that afternoon and the charges longed against the neighborhood watchman or neighborhood vigilante, whatever you want to call him, what every legal observer said this is unsupportable by the facts and certainly by the law. >> what the president said was political. because he is the epitome of politics, he is the president. but i think i have heard from governor jeb bush when the stand your ground law was put in place, and he said he did not think it applied to this case and he thought there was a problem here with the lack of criminal prosecution. so -- >> no. no. >> i think everyone, everybody, republican or democrat was curious about why no one was arrested why there did not seem to be prosecution, why there was not actions taken. and you know what? -- >> because some tragedies are not criminal. some tragedies are -- they are tragedies. that's why, these two people came together in a way that was tragic, that the circumstances showed that this was a an awful, painful accident. >> that is -- we all respect the verdict, geraldo. >> what about the fact that apparently the special prosecutor's office withheld evidence from the defense. evidence that showed trayvon, puffing smoke and holding a weapon and jewelry on the bed and they did not let the defense see the pictures so recently that the i.t. guy had to give it himself as a whistle blower to the defense team and now, there will be an investigation and sanctions sought? this is a very big deal. >> they fired him. >> they fired the guy yesterday who identified the information that was not given to the defense. >> all right, now, i do not want to, juan, you sit there tonight, and we wouldn't justice, we want racial harm any. i do not think the cause of racial harm any is enhanced by pandering and bringing charges that lawyers in a -- in the sober reflection of professional conduct would never bring. if this was two white guys they never would have charged anybody. >> oh, yes. >> i don't know -- >> if it was two white guys or two black guys you would not have had a jury. >> you have legal training, i don't. but let me just tell you, i think there was a concerted, there was tremendous concern nationwide that nobody was held to account and there was a dead child. and whether that is political pressure or not, politics sometimes interveens in our justice system, but in many cases it's appropriate in terms of bringing justice, had geraldo. >> i hear you loud and clear and i love you, you are my brother and thank you very much for coming on, juan williams. i have to take a short break we have got a stellar panel to lead you through the night to discuss this case that has affected so many lives. the disappointment felt by the people behind me and the people, you know, who gather here outside the courtroom, palpable, the supporters of the trayvon martin family and i think that these parents. i have to say this, my heart bleeds for the martin parents. they were good people. they are good people, tracy mart martin the dad, a wonderful, respectable, hard working loving dad, and sybrina fulton, loving mom, did her best with trayvon, they tried so hard. this is not one of those cases where the kid had no supervision, no dad at home. this is not one of those cases. it's a child that had wonderful parents and was trying the best. our hearts go out to then. i have to stress though, sometimes tragedies are not crimes. big show, back after this break. 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martin's mother, sybrina sybrina fulton spoke to those in lower manhattan. reverend al sharpton joined fulton. they want to see the florida stand your ground law repealed in the more than 20 states that have it. to get updates on the bay area rallies check out the new smart phone app on our website at abc7news.com. you will find the download link at the top of our home page. >>> new at 11:00, a mysterious substance rs toed the evacuation of a store in san mateo tonight. firefighters were called to the dfw shoe store at the hills dale mall after 5:00. they heard an explosion and then suffered from irritated eyes and throats. >> we checked the video camera feed in the store and observed what we could from there. there were areas that were uncuffed that unfortunately that area was the area the peope describe where this sound they heard occurred and we were unable to get any video feed from that area. >> 17 people reported having symptoms and five were treated by paramedics. fire officials speculate it may have been pepper spray or mace that was discharged. >>>

sybrina martin's pain is still there. >> i stand before you through the grace of god. because as a mother sybrina couldn't do it. sybrina could not lose her baby. sybrina could not lose one of her children. i just ask you as a mother, as a grandmother, as an aunt, an uncle, a grandfather to wrap your mind around what has happened. because i speak to you as trayvon's mother. i'm just asking you to wrap your mind around that. wrap your mind around no prom for trayvon. no high school graduation for trayvon. no college for trayvon. no grandkids coming from trayvon. >> sybrina fulton's emotional words come as we hear more from juror b-29. she first voted that george zimmerman was guilty of second degree murder. but after hours of emotional debate inside the jury room, voted to acquit mr. zimmerman. >> george zimmerman got away with murder but you can't get away from god. at the end of the day he's going to have a lot of questions and answers he has to deal with. >> what would you like to say to trayvon's parents? >> i would like to apologize, because i felt like i let them down. >> this juror's account takes them inside the

sybrina martin's pain is still right there. >> let me just say that i stand here before you today only through the grace of god, only because the spirit that lives within me, because as a mother, sybrina couldn't do it. sybrina could not lose her baby. sybrina could not lose one of her children. i just ask you as a mother, as a grandmother, as an aunt, an uncle, a grandfather to wrap your mind around what has happened, because i speak to you as trayvon's mother. i'm just asking you to wrap your mind around that. wrap your mind around no prom for trayvon. no high school graduation for trayvon. no college for trayvon. no grandkids coming from trayvon. >> sybrina fulton's emotional words come as we hear more from juror b29. she was the holdout juror. she first voted that george zimmerman was guilty of second-degree murder, but after hours of emotional debate inside the jury room, she eventually agreed to acquit mr. zimmerman. >> george zimmerman got away with murder. but you can't get away from god. and at the end of the day, he is going to have a lot of questions and answers he has to deal with. >> what would you like to say to trayvon's parents? >> i would like to apologize because i feel like i let them down

they have sybrina's mom here, sybrina's brother is also here, as well the sea of their foundation. very personal for them. they're very tired at this point. it's been a very, very long, enduring four weeks for them. and so they are trying to do their best to make it to the end. but as you know, there was a lot of emotional testimony this week. for example, to sit through the defense case and hear people make statements that all of us knew are not true or lacked good foundation was very tough for them. however, today they were very encouraged by what bernie de la rionda did, a very powerful closing statement, and they are anticipating an equally good rebuttal closing by john guy tomorrow. >> darrell parks, thank you very much indeed. >> thank you for having me. >> let's turn to cnn legal analyst jeffrey toobin and former supreme court justice leslie crocker? jeffrey, where are we? >> i thought putting in context not that this crime began on the night that trayvon martin died but it began when george zimmerman became more and more obsessed with these prowlers in the neighborhood and

and i know that she issued an apology to sybrina fulton and i think that's between her and sybrina to talk about, really. i have not spoken to sybrina about that. but you know, it's her decision and she has to live with that. >> barbara, let me tell you what we know that this juror. i want to emphasize, she did choose to show her face but she is going by mady, not giving her full name. she is worried about possible retribution. we know she is 36 years old. she describes herself as puerto rican. she has only been in florida five months. lived previously in chicago. she has eight children. she is a certified nursing assistant and she was arrested at one point in chicago but the case was disposed. you have the data. then you saw her. was this someone you wanted on the jury or did you have reservations in. >> no reservations. good evening, good to see you. so b-29 was one of our younger jurors. she had eight children. she could have gotten out of jury duty if she had told the judge, i can't do it with all my kids. but she did the right thing. she chose her duty to her country, to serve as a juror and made the personal sacrifice. what i

sybrina? >> tracy and sybrina and the legal team are heartbroken right now, we're disappointed but today we made a decision to stand up and continue fighting for the legacy of their son so that this doesn't happen to another child. >> i think certain court observers were curious as to why tracy and sybrina were not in the courtroom when that verdict was read. can you tell us why they were not in attendance? >> they were not in the courtroom upon the advice of their legal counsel. >> is the martin family now -- and they're going by the advice of this legal team that they've had in place, are they planning now a civil suit to be filed against george zimmerman? would that be the next tactic in trying to provide justice for trayvon? >> i'm not going to talk about the civil suit today. what i'm focused on is the outcome of the jury last night, but i'm focused on the millions of people that we had that gave us support from all over the world, black, white, brown, christian, muslim. they know what george zimmerman did was wrong. and a not guilty verdict does not mean that george zimmerman was innocent. george zimmerman will forever have trayvon martin's blood on his hands and it is it up to us now to peacefully and conscientiously object to this decision we got from the court yesterday. >> i w

sybrina has. nobody has suffered a greater loss than tracy and sybrina and we share president obama's sentiments in that regard we don't want to see vigilante behavior that led to their son. i'm proud of the mouth of my president came a call for change in our nation. i think that's responding to and the reason i have the conviction to stand up this morning, continue to speak on behalf of my client, is because the millions of supporters out there black, white, brown, republican, democrat, muslim, christian, who stood behind tracy and sybrina and said that was our son, too. you can no longer walk through our nation today and place a bullet in the heart of an unarmed child because of the color of his skin. i think what america has said is we don't tolerate whether or not that's the message we receive from the jury, we will continue to fight for justice. >> jasmine rand, attorney for the martin family. thank you so much for joining us. please extend our condolences to the martin family for the loss of their son. >> thank you for having me. >>> he's at the center of one of the most high-profile cases in years and today george zimmerman is walking free. what is life like after you're declared not guilty in a case of this magnitude. our dave maddenly shows what's next for the 29-year-old that is, quote, a marked man. >> reporter: he's been in hiding over a year, daring to venture out only in disguise and wearing body armor. since killing trayvon martin, life with george zimmerman is filled with isolation and caution. >> there a

sybrina fulton attends. they were not here, although there was thought perhaps they might come. sybrina left a message to the pastor and her message was very simple, she said please tell the congregation here that i still trust in god. and the pastor was telling us that that is the message that the entire congregation has. >> so we're depending on you this morning, o god, for all of our help. we're not depending on the sanford police department, we're not depending on seminole county sheriff. we're not depending on the courts of seminole county, florida, law enforcement. >> there were some family relatives here, and their message was, look, let's not let this happen again. they did of course say that they were hurt, sad, confused and disappointed. but one of the very interesting things that came out from talking to members of the congregation as they left the last service here was that to stereotype was wrong. to think there that there would be violence particularly in the miami community was in and of itself stereotyping. what they are doing is they will focus their anger and their hop

sybrina fulton. >> reporter: the courtroom was riveted by the testimony of grieving parent sybrina fulton and tracy martin. >> my youngest son trayvon benjamin martin. he's in heaven. >> my world has just been turned upside down. >> reporter: later in the trial, the prosecutor used a manikin to demonstrate the state's theory of the case. >> were you aware the defendant described to his best friend that when he slid down, the defendant slid down, that trayvon martin was up around his armpits? were you aware of that? >> no, i've not heard that, no, sir. >> where would the gun be now? is. >> now the gun would be behind your left leg. >> okay. >> reporter: defense attorney mark o'mara used the same manikin to give jurors and alternate view. >> could it have happened this way? >> yes. >> reporter: a key question for the jurors -- who was screaming on that 911 call moments before the fatal shot? witnesses on both sides said they could identify the voice. >> my son, george. >> i felt that inside of my heart, i said that is george. >> that's my son george. >> that's georgie. >> trayvon benjamin martin. >>

sybrina fulton, the mother of trayvon martin, took the stand. expected to be quite emotional. however, sir breanna -- sybrina fulton, who appears to still be grieving since she lost her son. she has heard the 9-1-1 tape numerous times and held her composure on the witness stan, and in the jury box, five of the six female jurors all have children of their own, also mothers like sybrinan, and they did appear empathetic, somber, but serious. no one shedding a tear, however tears were shed not only by tracy martin, trayvon's father, but one of the jurors did look quite sad later in the day when the medical examiner was on the stand, and the prosecution started showing those very clinical autopsy photos of the deceased, trayvon patterns lying naked at the morgue for the medical examination and the autopsy review. tight shotted of the bullethole. testimony about the bullet still inning his heart when his body arrived there. that seemed to have the jurors shaken as well. one of the jurors actually looked at the father, tracy martin, and just watching his reaction, seemingly feeling the pain to an extent. so, the jury has pretty much stayed true to what their duty is, as the citizen panel to determine the guilt or innocence of george zimmerman. the threshold is beyond a reasonable doubt and as mark o'mara right now compellingly arguing in court the state has failed to over

prosecution needs to call trayvon's mother sybrina fulton to say whether or not that's martin's voice on the recording. there were thoughts the prosecution would call sybrinaulton to testify. do you expect she will take the stand when court resumes friday? >> anderson, this is a strong possibility she will take the stand. >> what about trayvon martin's brother. there is also some who expect maybe he would be asked to testify, as well? >> a very strong possibility that he will testify. >> how important to the prosecution's case do you think their testimony is, in terms of identifying whose voice it is on that 911 call? >> well, they call them to the stand, i would assume that it is a -- that's very important to their case, however, i'm not the lawyer trying the case so i'll have to defer to whatever their strategy is. if they call them, i would suspect they expect to get very strong testimony from them in this case. >> the state today presented evidence about zimmerman's past, about his education course work. when i spoke with mark ocho ra yesterday, he believes that opens the door for more discussion of trayvon martin's history. do you think that should be

sybrina felton. i told him this morning that you have an auntie who is an angel, on this earth as an angel. i would love to give a heartfelt thank you to sybrina us to follow in your footsteps, in your courage and commitment to justice. you're remarkable human beings. >> i'm brand-new parent of a girl. ivities talking about her dad and the future. he said something profound. he probably wouldn't want me to be talking about this, he's an introvert. the world she's grog up in, he said, i don't feel safe. to me what does it mean to raise children in a country where their parents don't feel safe. we can't instruct them properly how to behave, live, succeed when we're under siege and we're under surveillance constantly. so i guess that's the other thing i want to say. this is the moment black people are the most free in the united states, given our long, long history of subjegation. if this is what it looks like, i don't know what else to say, what else to teach them. this the 50th anniversary of the bombing in birmingham, march in washington. these four little girls who died under similar situations, similar duress, i want to recognize them as wel

sybrina fulton. today hundreds of people were here in the crowd in new york city chanting no justice. no peace. sybrina fulton said trayvon was a child and said she vowed to work for trayvon and said i will work for your children as well. don? >> thank you very much. protesters rallied in washington, d.c. as well. one speaker on the national mall today said people across the country need to make sure that trayvon martin stands not for a moment but for a movement. athena jones is in washington. >> reporter: hi, don. several hundred people came out for the justice for trayvon rally outside the federal courthouse here braving the high temperatures. some of them even wearing hoodies. the demonstration began and ended with song and prayer. one of the first speakers, a pastor, summed up the message the demonstrators wanted to send. >> i'm sure when the system failed to be just to trayvon martin our government failed us. and we are here today again not because we're angry but to bring attention. we're asking the department of justice to continue to look at this case and to follow the evidence and bring civil

prosecution needs to call trayvon's mother sybrina fulton to say whether or not that's martin's voice on the recording. there were thoughts the prosecution would call sybrina testify. do you expect she will take the stand when court resumes friday? >> anderson, this is a strong possibility she will take the stand. >> what about trayvon martin's brother. there is also some who expect maybe he would be asked to testify, as well? >> a very strong possibility that he will testify. >> how important to the prosecution's case do you think their testimony is, in terms of identifying whose voice it is on that 911 call? >> well, they call them to the stand, i would assume that it is a -- that's very important to their case, however, i'm not the lawyer trying the case so i'll have to defer to whatever their strategy is. if they call them, i would suspect they expect to get very strong testimony from them in this case. >> the state today presented evidence about zimmerman's past, about his education course work. when i spoke with mark ocho ra yesterday, he believes that opens the door for more discussion of trayvon martin's history. do you think that should be admissi

sybrina fulton normally attends? >> reporter: that's right. this is the miami neighborhood where trayvon grew up, lived, the park he attended not far from here. sybrina fulton and tracy martin often attended this church here today. there was some thought perhaps they might be here this morning for perhaps the 11:00 a.m. service. they did not come. the pastor, arthur jackson, did talk with sybrina today. this is part of the message that he got. >> they are very upset. they are very heart broken as you can imagine, as my parent would be, the senseless tragedy of losing a child. i applaud her. i commend her faith in god. she still trusts in god amid the trial. >> and in fact, the pastor, pastor jackson said sybrina asked him to convey that message to parishioners here this morning to continue to trust in god. while she was not here, there were some other members of the family that did attend. a cousin and aunt and uncle. as you might expect their feelings, they were hurt, sad, confused and they are devastated. >> we're just, everybody in prayers. trayvon, as sybrina said, could have your son, my baby, anyone in america's baerks just wa zam been walking to the store. >> everyone at this moment may be feeling burdened. they have to stand strong on their faith. they have to know god has it. no matter what he has it. we give it to him. we give our burdens to him. be strong and peacef

sybrina and tracy. >> you know trayvon martin's parents well. >> yes. >> as you watch the proceedings what's going through your mind? >> it's a tough day. i spoke to sybrina, tracy and jahvaris last night. this is a day the family never wanted to have in their lives to testify at the murder trial of their child and brother. i think sybrinathis morning. a woman of grace. an amazing parent. i think jahvaris's testimony shows these young men had incredible parents who were always present. he's a college student. trayvon martin was on his way to college when he turned 18. she was incredible. the questions from mr. o'mara about whether you hoped the voice was your son no mother in the world would hope to hear their child's voice being beaten, a gun to him, ultimately killed. so no mother ever wants to have this day in their lives. sybrina certainly today was remarkable on the stand. i know she is about to take the stand again. our prayers are with her from the trayvon martin foundation and those who have supported her. >> i think the defense was getting at if you're a mother and you know your child was shot and killed you have a preconceived notion, even if you vice president heard the tape, when you hear the screams on the tape your mind would go there that that's my son. you wouldn't think it was the other guy. >> i think

sybrina, it's devastating to hear stuff like this, because they desperately wanted the jurors to hold the killer of their child accountable. and they, as sybrina said, she would have fought harder if that would have been her child. they just are trying to get through this as make something positive out of something so negative, because they were so hurt by this verdict. >> i'm sure they were. mark, the juror anderson interviewed last week spoke about this juror and how she was the last holdout on a guilty or not guilty charge, shall we say. let's listen to what she said. >> she was the last one to vote, and it took probably another 30 minutes for her to decide. she could not find anything to hold george on, because you want to find him guilty of something. she wanted to find him guilty of something, but couldn't because of the law, the way the law is written. >> so mark, what do you make of the fact that this one juror, who initially voted guilty for second degree murder, not manslaughter, but the second degree murder charge, the one holdout was the only minority on this six-woman panel. >> i think that's completely to be expected and exactly why when we saw the racial composition of the jury, i said on this show that the trial was over. there was no way -- it's a very rare person who can hold out in a criminal case when everybody else is up against you. when you have the racial composition that was in this case, five to one, white to hispanic or puerto rican, and you combine that with what was one of the most abysmal prosecutorial presentations i've ever seen, i think it was a no-brainer that it was going to come out this way. i would tell or ask ben, you know, when your clients watched this, my experience is, this is one of the reasons when you try a case, win or lose, you never want to talk to the jurors afterwards because it's maddening. they'll come out and tell you this, that and the other thing and who knows what it takes. it is an incredibly difficult task for a juror to stand their ground in a jury room when they're outnumbered and you've got that peer pressure and they dynamic that goes on. >> benjamin, go ahead and respond to that. >> yeah, and mark, i do think my clients understand that. she said she wants to offer an apology to trayvon's parents, and i think they -- as sybrina said, the christian thing to do is accept the apology, but she wishes she would have fought harder because that's what she would have did had that been their child. one vote, the prosecutors could have said, your vote is your vote, you said you had the evidence there. you didn't have to be persuaded. you didn't have to justify your vote to anybody. >> you know, ben, one of the interesting things, and i don't understand it, you know, coming from the defense side, and i think jose would back me up on, this there are certain cases you know in jury selection you're not going to be able to win the case. you know because of the dynamics and everything else, and you try that case to get a hung jury. i think when the prosecution had the two white jurors placed back into that jury box and they saw the composition of this case, if they really wanted to win it, they should have tried this case to hang it so they would have had another chance at a retrial. it's yet another, i think, black mark, i

sybrina fulton. >> the courtroom was riveted by the testimony of grieving parent sybrina fulton and tracy martin whoout losing their 17-year-old son. >> my youngest son is trayvon benjamin martin. >> our world has just been turned upside down. >> and late in the trial john guy used a mannequin to demonstrate the state's theory of the case. >> were you aware the defendant described to his best friend that when he slid down the defendant slid down, that trayvon martin was up around his arm pits? were you aware of that? >> no, i had not heard that, no, sir. >> where would the gun be now? >> now the gun would be behind your left leg. >> okay. >> defense attorney mark o'mara used the same mannequin to give jurors an alternate view. >> could it happen this way? >> yes. >> a key question for the jurors, who was screaming on that 911 call moments before the fatal shot? witnesses on both sides said they could identify the voice. >> my son george. >> i felt that inside of my heart that is george. >> my son george. >> it was georgy. >> trayvon benjamin martin. >> my brother. >> my son. >> who threw the first p

sybrina fulton. we did not see tracy martin. he did tweet after the verdict. this is from tracy martin. god blessed me and sybrina with trey and even in his death, i know my baby, proud of the fight. we along with all of you put up for him. god bless. and then he followed that with a second tweet. thanks to everyone who is with us and who will be with us so we together can make sure that this doesn't happen again. we have a panel to discuss this. so we can make sure this doesn't happen again. >> first, let me clear up some inaccuracies. when the defense says that mr. zimmerman won't see a courthouse again, that is not true. the family had already filed a civil suit that will go forward. they are not immune to a suit that is already been filed. and zimmerman will have to testify in a civil suit. you cannot avoid that. and his testimony could lead to some very interesting new evidence. the federal government, the justice department suspended an investigation. they did not end it. and clearly, we will be having a conference call tonight, civil rights leaders. we will be pushing for them to move forward. i've talk to mr. crump with these two press conferences and he will be reiterating that. this whole notion that race had nothing to do with this. let us be clear. one, we came in, civil rights groups and i organized the first big rally in sanford because we were asked to by the family and the local community that said that there was a pattern of racial problems with the sanford police department. had the sanford police department went ahead like anybody would have thought, given the inconsistencies of the statement by a man who killed a child that had not committed a crime, there wouldn't have been a case. so to attack the media for covering something, what made this case was a sanford police department in their history. when we came in, and raised that, the republican governor appointed a special prosecutor who then found that there was grounds for a trial. for them to stand before the public today and act as though people fabricated this. a republican tea party prosecutor said there is grounds for murder two. grounds for manslaughter. you noticed that even o'mara said tonight, no one in this room would doubt evidence of murder two. he never said manslaughter. he knows good and well this should have went to trial. he know good and well that you can have civil rights violations on the civil level. a civil case has nothing to do with this trial. he is misleading the public to say anything else. to say that it is disgraceful when a young man is killed for doing nothing but going home, to say that it is disgraceful to prosecute that is an insult to the intelligence of the american public. >> melissa harris perry is here. we heard that this is not about race although she added that tra trayvon martin was profiled. it is hard to imagine how those two statements could be coexistent. that this could have been not about race and trayvon martin could have been profiled as a criminal. and not only profile as a criminal. i think part of what is so difficult here is, it is completely possible. maybe even likely that this jury based on the evidence presented to it. and based on the laws of the state of florida has made the appropriate decision. this jury. these six individuals. >> i'm going to sbrumt you. i understand that benjamin crump is about to speak. >> we represent the trayvon martin family. we are very, very, very saddened but we accept the jury's verdict in this case. first on behalf of tracy martin and sybrina fulton who are just heart broken right now. and we ask that you keep them in your prayers. at this time attorney crump will make a statement and then we will take a few questions. >> i am here along with the attorneys. sybrina fulton and tracy martin would like to thank the supporters throughout the nation and the world to everybody that attend ad rally, to the millions of people that signed petitions, to the prosecution, miss angela corey, mr. bernie de la rionda, attorney john guy and mr. rich manti and everybody from the prosecutor's office. to everybody that put their hoodies up. to everybody says i am trayvon. his family expresses their heartfelt gratitude for helping them these past 17 months. to tracee and sybrina, trayvon's parents, it has made sanford and many other cities a little safer for all our children. i know trayvon is up there proud of the changes that you as his parents have inspired in his name. this morning, martin luther king's daughter tweeted me a message. it r

sybrina fulton this morning? >> i can't imagine the grief she is going to but we have to imagine that in order to create action. we all support sybrina and support efforts to roll back the lax and lenient draws like stand your ground that are resulting the deaths of our children. in this country, one child or teen is killed every three hours and 15 minutes. and it's unacceptable. if anything else was killing our children at that rate, we would act. but because it's america and because it's guns, we are not acting and moms demand action for gun sense in america is going to change that. we have a hundred thousand members in this country in seven months and we have chapters across 40 states and we will be a force to be reckoned with. >> shannon watts, thank you for your time and respect your position on this issue. the future of the land mark voting rights act, congress takes it up for the first time since supreme court defeat. does the partisan divide in congress mean it's in real jeopardy? i'll pose that question and more to senator patrick leahy coming up next. >>> also ahead, "rolling stone" getting heat for giving the surviving bos

sybrina fulton and tracy martin, i've had a chance to interview sybrina fulton and she and her ex-husband have been very clear from the beginning, what they wanted at the outset was an arrest, george zimmerman to at least be brought in, arrested and held accountable. the next thing they wanted was a trial and they wanted a trial by jury. they were very concerned about a stand your ground hearing where george zimmerman could have gotten off by -- gotten off free and immune from future prosecution and sybrinaulton told me in february when i interviewed her, now that the case was going before a jury, they would live with the jury verdict and that's all that they wanted. and now that we have the verdict, i'm not surprised by how sybrina fulton and tracy martin are handling themselves. they're handling themselves the way they've always handled themselves with dignity and respect. >> meacham. >> kendall, can i ask you quickly, do you see any action on the stand your ground laws on the gun legislation side of this coming out of the outrage over the decision? >> not in florida. as you call the governor appointed a commission, they didn't recommend any changes. people in florida like their guns. >> kendall coffey, thank you. wow. coming up on "morning joe," we'll continue the conversation. we have the moderator of "meet the press" david gregory joining us, tina brown, neil bush, the son of the 43rd president to inspire volunteer president and baseball analyst al leiter ahead of tomorrow's all-sta

sybrina said it was george and it was almost nothing was on trayvon's perspective. it was not from the perspective of a kid who was running away and as sybrina and tracy said, they couldn't imagine that this could be their child who was in this terrible situation, a scary situation, running from a stranger you didn't know and that is who we see when we think about trayvon. every african-american parent. every parent who says i want to be compassionate to a child, you think that could be my child! >> i want to ask you to stay with me. coming up, more of our conversation, including what it was like inside the courtroom. it starts with little things. tiny changes in the brain. little things anyone can do. it steals your memories. your independence. ensures support, a breakthrough. and sooner than you'd like. sooner than you'd think. you die from alzheimer's disease. we cure alzheimer's disease. every little click, call or donation adds up to something big. announcer: announcer: you're on the right track to save big during sleep train's triple choice sale. for a limited time, you can choose to save hundreds on beautyrest and posturepedic mattress sets. or choose $300 in free gifts with sleep train's most popular tempur-pedic mattresses. you can even choose 48 months interest-free financing on the new tempur-choice with head-to-toe customization. the triple choice sale ends soon at sleep train! ♪ sleep train ♪ your ticket to a better night's sleep ♪ >>> back now with trayvon martin's parent and their attorney benjamin crump. there has been, since the verdict outpouring all over the country, thousands of people out marching. how have you responded to that? how did that made you feel? how has that made you feel? >> it's helping to know that we have supporters. it's helping to know that we have people that is standing with us, that is praying with us. you know, they are supporting us and they can definitely see some of the trials and tribulations that we are going through. just like us, a lot of people are experiencing this same thing. >> and we will talk about that later because we all going to be part of a prayer vigil saturday. let me take you back to the courtroom because no one has really talked with you publicly how it was to sit in the courtroom. you're sitting in there every day looking at george zimmerman. did you ever make eye contact with him? was there any kind of point where you and he, either one of you, kind of like crossed each other in terms of at least eye contact? >> i try not to make eye contact with him because it was just hard sitting in the courtroom five, six, seven feet away from the individual that took my son's life. that in itself was just a lot to bear. as a father, you have thoughts of what am i going to do? what do i want to do? but then at the end of the day, i sat back and said to myself that it was bigger than was we were doing sitting right there in the courtroom, that everything that we had did up until that point would have been for nothing had i had a loud outburst or whatever. when i wanted to look up at him, i just thought about trayvon and what i would be destroying had i reacted. >> you know, sybrinaalways talk about faith and your spiritual life. but how much was your spiritual life tested sitting in there every day with zimmerman sitting there, hearing the 911 tapes of what you said was your son screaming? how did that feel and how did that test your spirit and your endurance? >> it tested my spirit by me just remaining at peace while i was sitting there. so i was in the wilderness, but i was still at peace with myself because god was talking to me at the same time. and he told me just be still, just be still. hold your head up high and that is what i did. i was obedient to god's word and i understood that this wasn't just about trayvon. i was representing a whole group of people, a whole -- i can't say a nation, but a community. i was representing. so it was important for me just to be obedient to god and to listen to what he said and every day when i walked in that courtroom, i had an aunt that was texting me at home and would say, plea the blood of jesus over the courtroom an

sybrina fulton. george zimmerman's statements and decide if they believe him. >> mark nejame, criminal defense attorney, let me ask you about mark o'mara. i was pushing him a little bit on his cross-examination of sybrina fulton. what did you make of what he did. he told me a second ago, look, my client faces life in prison. i had to ask the tough questions. as difficult as it was. what do you make of how he went about it? >> look, it was risky. there's no question it was risky. you know -- >> but was it a good risk? >> well, defense 101 you don't do it. he took a chance. i don't think he needed to do it. you know, do you that type of thing when you need a throw a hail mary pass because your case is in danger and you've got to do what you've got to do because you have to pull it out. he's not in that position. his case is going pretty well considering the fact this is a prosecution case so far and the defense has scored a lot of points. so i think the point he was wanting to make and i think he went farther than he needed to to make it, and that is that if, in fact, it was trayvon martin who was on top, the case would be different. there's a way to ask that without getting into the sensitivities he did

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. >> let's listen to more of the interview that both sybrina and trace tracy did this morning. let's listen to a little bit from sybrinawith a fine tooth comb and make sure all the ts were crossed and all the is were dotted because this is settinding a terrible messag sending out a terrible message to young teenagers. trayvon was walking too slow. so should they be walking too fast? you know, so, i don't think teenagers in whole know exactly what to do now. >> she talks about dotting the is and crossing the ts and also looking at all the legal possibilities. i heard both benjamin crump, they talked about that. does that include at this point, do they know what their legal possibilities are and what they decided on? are they looking to a wrongful death lawsuit? >> that's a possibility and that's been a possibility from the very beginning. we considered george zimmerman even in the initial lawsuits we had. we will make an appropriate decision at the right time. >> is there a time table that they're looking at and when they make that decision or let things cool off from the verdict first? >> certainly. the verdict just ca

martin and sybrina walk out and i joined them as i walked out and i asked tracy martin how he felt at this point and he said, "they did good. they did good," meaning the prosecutors. sybrinad with him and they went in to sort of a side room for a period of time here. she didn't want to comment. but moments later they exited that room. he said john guy gave a strong close. john guy cut to the heart of this matter and that's where the case is, a heart. then he said, emphasize heart. now after they exited, went into an elevator and went down, i then saw angela cory, the special prosecutor, walking out. she's the one who brought this charge, did not take it to a grand jury. said that she read through the evidence and said that the second degree murder charge is what should be applied here. as she exited i asked her what she thought of the presentation. she said we do this all the time, we put it into the hands of the jury, and now we wait. finally, as you mentioned, walking out was mark o'mara, the defense attorney. so i stood with him there for a couple minutes, asked him a question or two. he said to me, "i'm happy with the way we did in the summations and now we wait for t

sybrina fult fulton, who are just heartbroken really right now, we ask you keep them in your prayers. >> they spoke through their lawyers and on social media, tracy martin tweeting, god bless me and sybrina with tray and even in his death i know my baby proud of the fight we along with all of you put up with him for god bless. >> obviously, we are ecstatic with the results. george zimmerman was never guilty of anything except protecting himself in self-defense. i'm glad the jury saw it that way. >> many did not agree. >> justice for trayvon martin! >> small protests against the verdict popped up around the country. >> i'm here to stand against the racist system that has allowed trayvon martin to be killed without the prosecution of george zimmerman. they didn't want to arrest him in the first place. >> while the protests were largely peaceful, some scary moments in oakland with protesters smashing the window else of a transit police vehicle. today, new questions over whether this really is the end for george zimmerman's criminal case. the naacp is now calling for new federal civil rights charges. >> when you look at his comments and when you look at comments made by young black men who l

sybrina fulton. hundreds of people were here on hand today chanting no justice, no peace. of course, this is 1 of more than 100 such protests across the country. today sybrinahild. she said he was just carrying a drink and candy and vowed today, don, that she would work for trayvon but said i will work for your children as well. don? >> all right, alina, thank you very much. we want to head now to washington, d.c., athena jones is there. athena, what did you see today? >> reporter: hi, don, that chant no justice, no peace was also the refrain here outside the federal courthouse in d.c., hundreds of people showed up for the justice for trayvon rally here, braving very high temperatures, some of them even wearing hoodies, some brought ice tea and skittles in solidarity with trayvon martin, all of them, of course, wanting the department of justice to bring federal civil rights charges against george zimmerman. now, whether that's going to happen is still an open question. but i can tell you that one of the other big themes we heard a lot about today is that the racial profiling. one speaker took issue with the recent comment in "the washington post" that argue

and sybrina fulton have been in seclusion since george zimmerman's acquittal was announced late saturday. they're here, along with their attorney, bernard crump. thank you all for joining us. sybrinau were not in the courtroom saturday night. where did you get the news? and what was your first thought? >> it was on one of the television programs. and my first thought was shock. disgust. i really didn't believe that he was not guilty. >> you've now had five days to think and pray about it, both of you. do you understand, now, how the jury might have reached that decision? and do you accept it? >> as parents, the understanding how they reached the verdict, i'll never grasp that concept. and just as loving parents, and god-fearing people, we just continue to pray that whatever was in their heart was what they intended to do. but we feel that the verdict -- we didn't feel it was fair. and, of course, it's devastating. >> i can only imagine. we've now heard from one of the jurors, only one so far, who said that trayvon played a role in his death. she said that he could have walked away and gone home. what's your response to that? >> my response to that is that i think people are forget

i did watch sybrina fulton's testimony and javaris' testimony and i think that it was very compelling to hear sybrinaher, identify that it was trayvon on the tape. i think that the defense did what defense lawyers supposed to do, try to raise doubt. i don't know how successful that will be. we'll see what the jury says. from where i sat, i think that she handled it very evenly. she was not rattled. she didn't go for the bait of being argumentative. i think the brother came off the same way, just being very honest, that he had had -- he was in denial initially. he didn't want to deal with what his brother's death was and how it happened. he didn't even want to deal with the tape. then he later came to deal with it. and then said that that was his brother. i think it is interesting the defense had one theory with the mother, thomas, that well, you wanted your son to be right so you wanted to say that was your son. but he didn't have that with the brother. so was he saying the brother didn't want his brother to be right? it kind of like came a little convoluted to me. but again, defense lawyers have to

sybrina fulton. i feel like she's calling us to do exactly the thing that you have just said. i want to listen to trayvon martin's mother, sybrina at the national urban league this week. >> what is my message to you? my message to you is, please use my story, please use my tragedy, please use my broken heart to say to yourself, we cannot let this happen to anybody else's child. >> she's extraordinary, how she holds the sadness and the grief and the strength at the same time. and then tells us, take it. go use it. >> but we didn't do it with michael stewart, we didn't do it with sean bell. we didn't do it with the jenna six. and my concern is, is not my prayer -- my prayer is for something higher. but my concern that we'll get all whipped up, six months from now, we'll be on to something else, because our children really don't matter. and particularly, the lives of black and brown boys really don't matter. if you recall, years ago, maybe ten years ago, the upheaval was the pregnant girl. the pregnant teenager. and everybody was saying, well, what about the boys? what about the boys? it was like we didn't even have teenage boys un

sybrina fulton or tracy martin are on the list? a lot of people would like to hear most like little from sybrina. >> if i were prosecuting this case,ful, emotional witness. one of the most important things she can talk about are the screams on the 911 call. she's already identified to law enforcement those are the screams of trayvon martin. >> explain real quickly with the holiday week where we go with the trial. >> uh-huh. we have court all day today. and we'll be covering it all day today on msnbc. tomorrow is a day off for the jurors. it will be dark. friday court resumes and then back again on monday. >> all right, lisa bloom, we'll be watching today together. thanks so much. up next, if anythinging what have we learned today? back in a moment. hey america, even though she doesn't need them, cheryl burke is cha-cha-ing in depend silhouette briefs for charity, to prove that with soft fabric and waistband, the best protection looks, fits, and feels just like underwear. get a free sample and try for yourself. "that starts with one of the world's most advancedy," distribution systems," "and one of the most efficient trucking networ

sybrina fulton takes the stand. she has testified to listening to that 911 call that has been so central to the prosecution's case. it is the 911 call where in the background screams are heard. now sybrina fulton was not there, but she was among the first people to hear that 911 call and she told the jury this morning that those screams that she heard were her son's voice. important testimony for the prosecution because the defense has suggested that those screams could be george zimmerman, and that it was indeed george zimmerman who was asking for help because trayvon martin had attacked him, but in testimony this morning and she's on the stand right now, she continues to talk about what she believes she heard and remember, early in this case there was an expert who was called who said, look, we could not isolate that voice to do an exact determination of who it was, but sometimes the best expert is somebody who is familiar with the voice, and that's why they called trayvon martin's mother. willie? >> carey sanders outside the courthouse. thanks so much. let's bring in our legal analyst lisa bloom. good morning. >> good morning. >> the exchange in court went like this. the prosecutor asked sybrinan who do you recognize that could be after playing the 911 she replied trayvon benjamin martin. they hear that testimony. how powerful is it? >> i think it's very powerful for the prosecution because sybrina fulton has maintained from the first time that she heard that recording that those are the screams of her son. she has never waivered in that position, not on direct today, not on cross-examination. >> how significant, though, lisa is more broadly that 911 call to the entire case? >> i think it's extremely significant because we can presume that the man who was screaming for help is the victim and not the aggressor, and the bullet shot rings out just after the screams. if, indeed, the jury believes that is trayvon martin screaming for his life and then george zimmerman pulled the trigger and killed him, that sure sounds like either murder or manslaughter, not self-defense as zimmerman maintains. >> carey touched on this a moment ago, lisa, but has there been definitive forensic ana

sybrina fulton, didn't waver. >> and who do you recognize that to be, ma'am? >> trayvon benjamin martin. >> reporter: that may or may not be proven, but legal analyst paul butler says sybrina fulton may have been the prosecution's most convincing witness. >> she's looking at these all-women jurors and talking to them woman to woman, mother to mother. what she says is i know exactly what my son's voice sounds like, and that was trayvon benjamin martin. >> reporter: fulton needed to be convincing. martin's father, tracy, initially told police the cries for help were not his son's, then later said they were. analysts say he'll likely not be called to the stand. the parents' credibility in this case is increasingly under the microscope. when trayvon martin was killed in sanford, florida, the mother was presumed to be in miami where she lives. martin at that time was visiting his father and the father's girlfriend at her home in sanford, but it's not clear where trayvon's father was when the shooting took place, and he didn't report trayvon missing until the next day. the parents, who have been divorced since 1999, have presented a unified front in the build-up to this trial, appearing together at marches and rallies. >> my heart hurts for my son. trayvon is my son. trayvon is your son. >> reporter: but although sybrinan's biological mother, alicia stanley, tracy martin's second wife and trayvon's stepmother, said this to cnn's anderson cooper. >> i'm the one that went to them football games. i'm the one was there when he was sick. i mean, every time he got sick, if he wasn't at our home, we had to go, tracy picked him up and brought him back to our home to make him better. >> reporter: still, together, analysts say, sybrina fulton and tracy martin, along with their lawyer, benjamin crump, have been essential in simply getting this case to trial. >> i give them tremendous credit. without their efforts, without them bringing on their legal team, this case would have never been heard of again. >> reporter: that's i reference to law enforcement authorities not arresting george zimmerman for nearly a month and a half after the shooting and then being reluctant to press charges. martin's parents and crump certainly have been controversial, playing up themes of racial injustice, but by relentlessly pushing

sybrina fulton is going to say. the emotion, you don't want to limit that. you want this jury to feel to what extent they can the loss that sybrina you only know what you show. even if it is stating the obvious to some degree. that the finesse here for the defense is that you do not want to cross examine a wounded mother. you will lose the jury for sure. danny cevallos. your perspebive on how they do this does not flow through the mother, but through the father. what he may offer in this. tell us about that, danny. >> well, you'll recall tracy martin who is trayvon martin's father. early on told someone in law enforcement, maybe the lead investigator, that it was not his son's voice on the tape. so, that could be elicited a number of ways. interesting to see if the defense utilizes that. a as to this witness, the mother of trayvon martin. there may be that part that she lacks some credibility and she's a mother and we all know what she's going to say. she believes that the voice is trayvon martin's. but wouldn't any mother have that sort of passionate response? remember, let's stipulate for the mother that it is trayvon martin's