sydney pollack. both deceased -- you raised the name anthony. >> i never met sydney pollack.s already very, very sick. anthony's de3ath was a complete shock -- death was a complete shock. he was a lovely person to work for. he just -- and i think you see it in the pilot -- he had such a love for this people and the land and the story he was trying to tell, so he did not want to turn it into a fairy tale, and he did not want it to be about the negatives, which so often, i think, happens in africa, and i was so thankful for that, and we have not yet felt the loss of that kind of the creative force. i do not think that we know yet what we have lost. nobody was creating in the way he was doing it. tavis: as you were talking a moment ago about being there for four months of last year, it means then that you were there when obama was making his run, right? so a two-part question. what was it like? what do you remember being in africa for four months when he was making the run back home. that is the first part of the question. the second part, what do you recall, what do you take aw