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sylvia johnson, the cousin of slain pastor clementa pinckney said a survivor of the shooting recounted to her the gunman's stated motives. >> she said that he had reloaded five different times. her son was trying to talk him out of doing the act of killing people. and he just said, i have to do it. he said, you rape all women and you have taken over our country and you have to go. amy: the department of justice is investigating wednesday's attack as a hate crime motivated by racism or other prejudice. we'll spend the rest of the hour on the massacre in charleston after headlines. the vatican has unveiled pope francis' historic encyclical on climate change, urging world leaders to pay their "grave social debt" to the poor and take swift action to save the planet from environmental ruin. pope francis calls for a change of lifestyle in rich countries steeped in a throwaway consumer culture, and an end to obstructionist attitudes that sometimes put profit before the common good. in a nearly, 200-page document the pope writes -- "climate change is a global problem with grave implications: e
sylvia johnson, the cousin of slain pastor clementa pinckney said a survivor of the shooting recounted to her the gunman's stated motives. >> she said that he had reloaded five different times. her son was trying to talk him out of doing the act of killing people. and he just said, i have to do it. he said, you rape all women and you have taken over our country and you have to go. amy: the department of justice is investigating wednesday's attack as a hate crime motivated by racism or...
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we also have a clip of an interview that sylvia johnson gave to anderson cooper. one of sylvia's relatives was killed in the church. a woman who survived the massacre by pretending to be dead described to her the horror of what unfolded inside that bible study class. >> what i heard is after shooting a couple of rounds her son tried to talk him in to not committing anymore acts of murder. >> person actually tried to -- >> yes, he did. he sure did. he tried to talk him down. her son and grand baby had already planned they were going to just actually actually act e they were already killed but he got up and that's when the gunman said, you know, after the young man tried to stop him from doing what he wanted to finish off he said, no. you raped our women and you are taking over the country. >> reporter: you raped our women and are taking over the country. >> i have to do what i have to do. >> reporter: and he continued to shoot. >> he shot the young man. his mother was there. she was -- she pretended as though she was dead. she was shot and dead but she watched her s
we also have a clip of an interview that sylvia johnson gave to anderson cooper. one of sylvia's relatives was killed in the church. a woman who survived the massacre by pretending to be dead described to her the horror of what unfolded inside that bible study class. >> what i heard is after shooting a couple of rounds her son tried to talk him in to not committing anymore acts of murder. >> person actually tried to -- >> yes, he did. he sure did. he tried to talk him down....
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one person in this community sylvia johnson, she lost a dear cousin in this shooting. her cousin was the pastor reverend clementa pinckney, killed in this attack. a close friend of johnson's survived and he talked with anderson cooper about what her friend witnessed, listen. >> what i heard is after shoot oing a couple of rounds, her son tried to talk him into not committing any more act of murder. >> her son tried to talk him down. >> yes, he did. he tried talk him down. and her son and grand baby had already planned that they were going to just ask that they were already killed. but the son was concerned about reverend clementa and he got up and that's when the gunman said, you know, after the young man tried to stop him from doing what he wanted to finish off, he said, no, you raped our women and you are taking over the country. >> you've raped our women and you are -- >> you're taking over the country. i have to do what i have do. >> and he continued shooting. >> and he shot the young man, his mother was there, and she witnessed. she pretended as though she was dea
one person in this community sylvia johnson, she lost a dear cousin in this shooting. her cousin was the pastor reverend clementa pinckney, killed in this attack. a close friend of johnson's survived and he talked with anderson cooper about what her friend witnessed, listen. >> what i heard is after shoot oing a couple of rounds, her son tried to talk him into not committing any more act of murder. >> her son tried to talk him down. >> yes, he did. he tried talk him down. and...
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we spoke earlier to sylvia johnson. she has talked to witnesses who are inside and she sort of recounts listening those witnesses and exactly what transpired. we all know, it was a bible study. that's why they were all there. everything goes fine until the bible study goes to an end and that's when roth begins the shooting spree. to think of someone shooting and then carefully reloading and then firing again five times is almost beyond comprehension. around then at one point, there's a young man, a parishioner, who jumps up and says stop, stop. and then the quote that is attributed to the gunmen, he says no, you are raping our women, your taking over our country. i have to do what i have to do. and then he shot and killed that young man. after the spree is over, he's allegedly going out the door. he turns to her and says have i shot you? and she says no. >> is this the woman he spares? >> right. >> its's interesting the quote you gave asht raping our women. that is the one that got this to the hate crime level. correct?
we spoke earlier to sylvia johnson. she has talked to witnesses who are inside and she sort of recounts listening those witnesses and exactly what transpired. we all know, it was a bible study. that's why they were all there. everything goes fine until the bible study goes to an end and that's when roth begins the shooting spree. to think of someone shooting and then carefully reloading and then firing again five times is almost beyond comprehension. around then at one point, there's a young...
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one survivors spoke to sylvia johnson, the cousin of one of the victims and she shared that story withbc news. >> it was horrible. there was just blood all over the place. dead, in order to survive, in order to get him not to shoot her. mark: federal authorities are investigating the killings as a hate crime. this morning, south carolina governor called for roof to face the death penalty. betty: one of the pioneers of the cable television world has died. ralph roberts founded the company that became comcast. he bought a small cable tupelo,on station in mississippi. his son brian is now the chairman and ceo of comcast. ralph roberts died of natural causes at the age of 95 years old. that is the look at your top stories. mark: coming up on the "bloomberg market day," google is facing an antitrust fine from the european union. we look at how much the company may have to pay. betty: he was government is proposing a 24% increase in fuel economy for large trucks by 2027 in an effort to cut pollution. we look at how that could impact the trucking industry. mark: we hear more from russian pres
one survivors spoke to sylvia johnson, the cousin of one of the victims and she shared that story withbc news. >> it was horrible. there was just blood all over the place. dead, in order to survive, in order to get him not to shoot her. mark: federal authorities are investigating the killings as a hate crime. this morning, south carolina governor called for roof to face the death penalty. betty: one of the pioneers of the cable television world has died. ralph roberts founded the company...
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sylvia johnson is joining us right now, she's very close with the reverend pinckney. how are you holding up how is this community holding up? >> well we're doing our best as a family we communicated with each other, and loving on each other, we're encouraging each other, doing our best. the community is doing such a superb job. being there for us we went to a prayer vigil this afternoon, just an outpours of love and support is awesome. >> a friend of yours was inside and described to you what happened. explain to me what you heard about what happened because this man was allegedly in there for an hour. >> yes. yes. he came in and he asked for the minister where's the minister. and -- >> do you know if he asked for the minister by name? >> no he just asked, where's the minister? >> and -- >> we still don't know exactly why he picked this church and he knew about the importance of this church the history of it or not. >> yes, i am not sure about that information. but from what i have heard, he asked for my cousin and my cousin being the nice kind welcoming person he is
sylvia johnson is joining us right now, she's very close with the reverend pinckney. how are you holding up how is this community holding up? >> well we're doing our best as a family we communicated with each other, and loving on each other, we're encouraging each other, doing our best. the community is doing such a superb job. being there for us we went to a prayer vigil this afternoon, just an outpours of love and support is awesome. >> a friend of yours was inside and described...
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sylvia johnson, reverend pinckney's cousin described what she was told about how it unfolded. >> from my understanding the suspect came to the church and he asks for the pastor, where's the pastor. they showed him where the pastor was. he sat next to my cousin, reverend pinckney, for -- throughout the entire bible study. >> according to the charlton post and courier, a female survivor told family members the gunman addressed her direct telling her "he was letting her live so she could tell everyone else what happened. johnson said she got a chance to speak with one of the survivors. >> she said that he had reloaded five different times and her son was trying to talk him out of doing that act of killing people and he just said i have to do it. he said, you rape our women and you taking over our country and you have to go. >> joining me now from columbia -- sorry. joining me, chris jansing, my colleague. what do we know about the man who is suspected or alleged to have done this? >> 21 years old. he's walking in to the mother emanuel church. he looks like -- nothing. turns out there was
sylvia johnson, reverend pinckney's cousin described what she was told about how it unfolded. >> from my understanding the suspect came to the church and he asks for the pastor, where's the pastor. they showed him where the pastor was. he sat next to my cousin, reverend pinckney, for -- throughout the entire bible study. >> according to the charlton post and courier, a female survivor told family members the gunman addressed her direct telling her "he was letting her live so...
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. >> i want to tell you now about sylvia johnson. she lost a dear kouzn in this shooting.he pastor, clementa pinckney. johnson talked to anderson cooper about what her friend witnessed. >> what i heard is after shooting a couple of rounds, her son tried to talk him in to not committing anymore acts of murder. >> her son tried to talk him sgloun he did. he tried to talk him down. her son and grand baby had already planned they were going to just act as though they were already killed but the son was concerned about reverend clementa. he got up and that's when the gunman said you know the young man tried to stop him from doing what he wanted to finish off. he said no. you have raped our women. you are taking over the country. >> you have raped our women and are taking over the country. >> i have to do what i have to do. >> and he continued shooting. >> and he shot the young man. his mother was there and she witnessed -- she pretended as though she was dead. she was shot and dead but she watched her son fall and laid there and she laid there in his blood. >> she laid there in
. >> i want to tell you now about sylvia johnson. she lost a dear kouzn in this shooting.he pastor, clementa pinckney. johnson talked to anderson cooper about what her friend witnessed. >> what i heard is after shooting a couple of rounds, her son tried to talk him in to not committing anymore acts of murder. >> her son tried to talk him sgloun he did. he tried to talk him down. her son and grand baby had already planned they were going to just act as though they were already...
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. >> survivors have told family friend sylvia johnson about the last moments with the shooter. >> afteran tried to stop him from doing what he wanted to finish off, he said no you've raped our women, and you are taking over the country. he shot the young man. his mother was there, and she witnessed. she pretended as though she was dead shot and dead but she watched her son fault and laid there. she laid there in his blood. >> a haunting end for a young man who recently shared a song online called "what's wrong with just being black?" >> one you go black, you never go back. ain't no way we can just be scrap like metal. >> reporter: for the young man who law enforcement say was hoping to start a race war with murder victims' friends and family have only offered forgive him pastor clementa pinkney's cousin is urging the shooter to seek help. >> i'm concerned he gets the right help that he even asked for forgiveness for what his's done and acknowledged he did do wrong. >> a college baseball star who lost his mother in the massacre is surrounded by support, and showing nothing but love. >> l
. >> survivors have told family friend sylvia johnson about the last moments with the shooter. >> afteran tried to stop him from doing what he wanted to finish off, he said no you've raped our women, and you are taking over the country. he shot the young man. his mother was there, and she witnessed. she pretended as though she was dead shot and dead but she watched her son fault and laid there. she laid there in his blood. >> a haunting end for a young man who recently shared...
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sylvia johnson spoke to a survivor of the massacre. >> she said he reloaded five different times. i have to do it. he said you rape our women and you are taking over our country and you have to go. >> tonight there are more disturbing new details about the suspect. dylann roof reconnected with a childhood buddy he hasn't seen in five year and railed about the trayvon martin case and black people taking over the world and the need for someone to do something about it for the sake of the white race end quote. his childhood friend told the ap what roof allegedly told him saying blacks were taking over the world. someone needed to do something about it for the white race. he wanted segregation between whites and blacks. in the story he said that's not the way it should be but he kept talking about it. he saw dylann roof the day before the massacre. he went to a lake with a couple other people. roof hated the outdoor and decided he'd rather see a movie. the next time we saw roof rf was when this picture was broadcast on the tv news. he said he called the police telling the ap i didn't
sylvia johnson spoke to a survivor of the massacre. >> she said he reloaded five different times. i have to do it. he said you rape our women and you are taking over our country and you have to go. >> tonight there are more disturbing new details about the suspect. dylann roof reconnected with a childhood buddy he hasn't seen in five year and railed about the trayvon martin case and black people taking over the world and the need for someone to do something about it for the sake of...
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survivors have told family friend sylvia johnson about those last moments with the shooter. >> he shot the young man, his mother was there. she witnessed. she pretended as though she was dead. she was that she was shot and dead. but she watched her son fall and laid there and she laid there in his blood. >> reporter: after surviving the horrific shooting two days ago, sanders' mother came to court today to confront the lone suspect. he appeared on camera via video link. she can be heard off camera. >> you have killed some of the most beautiful people that i've known. tywanza sanders is my son. tywanza was my hero. tywanza was my hero. >> reporter: a haunting end for a young man who recently shared a song online called "what's wrong with just being black?" >> once you go black you never go back. ain't no way we can just be scrap like metal. >> reporter: for the young man who law enforcement say was hoping to start a race war with murder victims friends and family have only offered forgiveness. >> people in south carolina -- >> reporter: pastor clementa pinckney is concerned roof gets he
survivors have told family friend sylvia johnson about those last moments with the shooter. >> he shot the young man, his mother was there. she witnessed. she pretended as though she was dead. she was that she was shot and dead. but she watched her son fall and laid there and she laid there in his blood. >> reporter: after surviving the horrific shooting two days ago, sanders' mother came to court today to confront the lone suspect. he appeared on camera via video link. she can be...
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and you have to go," sylvia johnson, a cousin of the church's slain pastor, said the gunman told his victims, according to cnn affiliate wis. she cited survivors of the shooting. >> pam: local faith leaders are reacting to the church shooting massacre in sorth carolina. >> pam: rev. amos brown, the senior pastor of third baptist church. and the president of the san francisco n-double-a-c-p. spoke today about loving one another. and keeping parishoners safe. >>.for our congregants >> pam: rev. brown also said that the church. and some temples in san francisco. plan to take new security measures. >> pam: he mentioned. some locations could see possible metal detectors at the doors and security cameras. >> pam: across the bay kron 4's haaziq madyun spoke with other faith leaders who are trying to figure out. how to add security to places of worship. which have always been open to the public >>"we just ask that you touch the hearts and minds of all of the congregation" >> reporter:once prayer was overthe south carolina church massacre dominanted the discussion at the monthly gathering of
and you have to go," sylvia johnson, a cousin of the church's slain pastor, said the gunman told his victims, according to cnn affiliate wis. she cited survivors of the shooting. >> pam: local faith leaders are reacting to the church shooting massacre in sorth carolina. >> pam: rev. amos brown, the senior pastor of third baptist church. and the president of the san francisco n-double-a-c-p. spoke today about loving one another. and keeping parishoners safe. >>.for our...
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the pastor's cousin sylvia johnson, says the suspect who is now on the run entered the church and asked him and according to the city's police chief, the suspect stayed at the bible study for about an hour before opening fire. here is sylvia johnson describing what else she was told. >> one of the survivors said that he reloaded five different times. and her son was trying to talk him out of doing that act of killing people. and he just said i have to do it. he said you rape our women. and you taking over our country. and you have to go. at the conclusion of the bible study, from what i understand, they just started hearing loud noises ringing out. and he had already wounded the suspect had already wounded a couple of individuals including my cousin reverend clementa pinckney. >> that is chilling and unthinkable what happened especially there of all places. full coverage straight ahead. we're following a news conferences that are happening about it hour and also there's a prayer vigil at noon in charleston. we'll be back in a moment with much more "morning joe." hey, you forgot the milk
the pastor's cousin sylvia johnson, says the suspect who is now on the run entered the church and asked him and according to the city's police chief, the suspect stayed at the bible study for about an hour before opening fire. here is sylvia johnson describing what else she was told. >> one of the survivors said that he reloaded five different times. and her son was trying to talk him out of doing that act of killing people. and he just said i have to do it. he said you rape our women....
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one survivor spoke to sylvia johnson and she shares that story with abc news. sylvia: it was just horrible. it was just blood all over the place. she played dead in order to survive in order to get him not to shoot her. vonnie: federal authorities are investigating the killings as a hate crime. european central bank is holding an emergency session over the greek debt crisis today. greek moves closer toward an exit from the euro with finance ministers meeting yesterday. last night in athens, thousands gathered outside parliament demanding that the country find a way to stay in the euro union. alexis tsipras is confident a deal can be reached. european leaders meet in an emergency summit monday. now, the fight over president obama's agenda -- trade agenda shifts to the senate. house approved a measure giving him fast-track authority but the bill passed with mostly republican votes. one week after a democratic rebellion, was killed proposals. shares of martha stewart living shared after one fourth of the company could be close. "wall street journal" reporter that t
one survivor spoke to sylvia johnson and she shares that story with abc news. sylvia: it was just horrible. it was just blood all over the place. she played dead in order to survive in order to get him not to shoot her. vonnie: federal authorities are investigating the killings as a hate crime. european central bank is holding an emergency session over the greek debt crisis today. greek moves closer toward an exit from the euro with finance ministers meeting yesterday. last night in athens,...
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one survivor's book to sylvia johnson, the cousin of the victim's, and she shared the story with abcews. >> it was just horrible. it was just blood all over the place. she played dead in order to survive and to get him not to shoot her. matt: federal authorities are investigating the killings as a hate crime. the fcc has come to the rescue of anyone who hates automated phone calls. regulators have agreed that phone companies do not have to connect robocalls is the consumer does not one of them. in the past, punk companies were worried of making most say they had to connect every single call. olivia: the fight over president obama's trade agenda shifts to the senate. the house has approved a measure giving him trade authority to negotiate trade agreements and this comes one week after the democrats -- matt: i have to break in. president putin is sitting down with charlie rose. let's listen in. >> this military strength and possibilities give it a big role . there are big issues that can only be solved in russia participates and you will play a definitive role in that. we want to find
one survivor's book to sylvia johnson, the cousin of the victim's, and she shared the story with abcews. >> it was just horrible. it was just blood all over the place. she played dead in order to survive and to get him not to shoot her. matt: federal authorities are investigating the killings as a hate crime. the fcc has come to the rescue of anyone who hates automated phone calls. regulators have agreed that phone companies do not have to connect robocalls is the consumer does not one of...
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and sylvia johnson is a cousin and i spoke to her. >> reporter: sylvia i know that the daughter was inhe time of the attack and called police a a kindergarten you take us through the story, because i noeknow ta that you talked to her. >> jennifer said that she heard some gunshots and she paused for a minute, and then she started to hear even more and she thought wow, something is going on. >> she was not at the bible study, but in a separate room. >> no she was in a separate room. she was in the pastor's office. >> so she heard the shots, and then what? >> she heard the shots and then she, she grabbed the baby and she had a 6-year-old daughter, and she went under the desk and called 911. >> i understand that 911 operator told her to stay on the line with her. >> yes. stay on the line until we get there, and she helped to, you know ease her fears know, you will be okay, and everything is fine, and we are on our way. they arrive and took her out of the office. so she didn't go to the scene where the actual murders okay occurred. >> i understand that it was his wife had to deliver the new
and sylvia johnson is a cousin and i spoke to her. >> reporter: sylvia i know that the daughter was inhe time of the attack and called police a a kindergarten you take us through the story, because i noeknow ta that you talked to her. >> jennifer said that she heard some gunshots and she paused for a minute, and then she started to hear even more and she thought wow, something is going on. >> she was not at the bible study, but in a separate room. >> no she was in a...
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. >> that was sylvia johnson, a cousin of church shooting victim pastor clementa pinckney. the three survivors, is felicia sanders. who told a niece of one of the victims that she played dead during the shooting massacre. lying on top of her granddaughter to protect her. another survivor says that the shooter told her she was going to live so she could tell the story of what happened. and so isaiah i guess for me the constant question this week is how is it that a 21-year-old ended up with a 150-year-old analysis of race in america. like that narrative of -- you rape our women, like that is -- that's almost ancient and this is a young person. and it makes me feel that i've missed something about what we are teaching very carefully. >> i think really first of all the pain that the families have experienced is tremendous we couldn't even imagine it. but in talking about how a young person came to that perspective, there's been research that again has looked at implicit bias and how messages in our country can infiltrate and build on some of the dilutions that extreme racism m
. >> that was sylvia johnson, a cousin of church shooting victim pastor clementa pinckney. the three survivors, is felicia sanders. who told a niece of one of the victims that she played dead during the shooting massacre. lying on top of her granddaughter to protect her. another survivor says that the shooter told her she was going to live so she could tell the story of what happened. and so isaiah i guess for me the constant question this week is how is it that a 21-year-old ended up...