you are the ceo of symantec. -- you were the ceo of symantec.is it like compared to years past? john, can you hear me? john: yes i can. emily: go ahead, john. john: it is unprecedented. did you hear that? emily: i did, unprecedented. john: when i joined in 1999, the environment was relatively small. but as people have grown, the companies have grown exponentially. it is more about the server and the data that is being stored. and that has created an enormous threat opportunity for every business. and quite frankly, every individual online today. emily: so what is next? what should we and what should companies see? what do they need to worry about at this point? john: there is a simple solution or concept that has been brought forth. zero trust. it is relevant today. know who the subscriber or color is. -- caller is. know where the application services being used. yesterday i got a ransomware notice from zoom suggesting i needed to pay my bill. i don't have a zoom bill. it clearly was a threat to me. and just like everyone else gets every single

[laughter] quite frankly, when i joined symantec. emily: i did.i joined in 1999, the hardware threat environment was relatively small. it was more about the endpoint. but as companies have grown exponentially, it has become more known about the server and the data that is being stored in those servers, and that has created an enormous threat opportunity, for every business, and, quite frankly, for every individual that is working online today. emily: so, john, what is next? what should we, and what should companies be most afraid of, what do they need to worry about at this point? john: the simple solution and concept that has been brought forth, zero trust, very relevant today. know who the subscriber or caller is, know where the content is coming from. nowhere the subscriber is being used. i just got an email yesterday from zoom suggesting that i need to pay my bill. my business pays for the zoom bill. it clearly was a --, just like everyone else gets every single day. emily: bipul, we have recently seen cryptocurrency become a victim of ransomw