symone sanders, cnn political commentator, and former press secretary for bernie sanders' presidential campaign. we have kevin madden, a former senior adviser to mitt romney. and ned ryun, ceo of american majority and former writer for president george w. bush. so, ned, the question remains, if the president's base expects him to build a massive brick and mortar wall, are they going to let him get away with this? because listen to what he promised them. >> we are going to build a great border wall! we will build a great, great wall. we're going to build a wall. don't worry about it. oh, we'll build a wall. i promise, we will build the wall. >> it's not going to be a little wall, it's going to be a big, beautiful wall. it's going to be a very tall wall, very strong wall, very powerful wall. it's going to be a very beautiful wall. it's going to be so big. it's going to be so powerful. >> all right, well, listen to what his administration and trump himself said yesterday. >> it is a physical wall. and then in certain areas, if you look at where the wall would be placed, you can't somehow

history of racism, we would know about it because he would have been sued over and over again. >> symone sanderss laughing, jack. why? hold on, let's find out what she finds so funny. >> i don't know why she's laughing -- >> i don't know why she's laughing, she should be crying. go ahead, symone. what do you want to say? >> i'm laughing because, yes, we had a history of racism we would know it. the president is a racist, whether we want to talk about the central park five, who were exonerated, and the current president of the united states, then a private citizen, took out a whole ad in the "new york times" to say that these young black men did it, whether we're talking about the racist birther movement -- >> where are the lawsuits, symone? >> so if you're not sued, jack, you're not a racist? >> no. i just know this, my friend symone -- >> oh, congressman. >> -- one of the things that does happen in today's society, the shortcut to victory is to call somebody a name, and i have seen it over and over again and i know on the right we do it to the left and the left does it to us. i think in this ca

symone sanders. the relevance is there. let's go with it. symone sanders i start with you. the democrats i heard what the senator tester said about gop leadership. that's why it's not here it's not rank file. it's the leadership and president. that's his say. but, the democrats have the ball in their hands because of the 60 vote rule. in the senate. what is worth shutting down the government for democrats? >> so that's a great question. i want to help clear something up. i think if senator tester was still with us he would agree. there are five senate republicans on record opposing the version of the house continuing resolution that just passed. yes, we need 60 votes. but the republicans caucus is not even all on the same page on this bill. that's a problem. what democrats and the senate are saying is there's a by partisan agreement that can pass. with the 60 votes needed with all the democrats. >> on immigration, on daca? >> it's, yes a by partisan bill that gets everything done. daca, it provisions for the military. it has the stuff about chip. and the community base helt

so joining us right now trio of political commentators alice stewart and symone sanders and errol lewisyou among are the democratic operative here. oprah winfrey as a friend of the obamas talking about running as a democrat if, in fact, that is what she ultimately decides to do. what do you make of this news? >> you know, look, i think this isn't -- oprah has done an interview previously she noted she never thought about being president before but maybe now something she could do post-donald trump being elected president of the united states. i think that we're going to see a number of likely and unlikely democratic challengers arise for the 2020 presidential contest. i predict upwards of 12 to 16 people will run for president and, of course, if oprah gets in she will be a frontrunner. she has name recognition, everyone knows who oprah is, the funds to do it, but i think she has a message and oprah winfrey could be someone much like a number of other contenders that are talking about running for president right now that could really give donald trump a run for his money. >> as david sai

symone sanders, if this is true, what does it mean politically?> i mean i think politically it means a couple of things. what else do we not know about that happened over the last couple of months that donald trump and his folks have been denying or brushing to the side. how deep does the rabbit hole really go? i think it goes to show that things coming out of this white house cannot be trusted. it's something i've thought for a really long time. these are real political implications. if donald trump did ask for the special counsel to be fired, that's something you just can't come back from, in my opinion. >> jack? >> i think at the time you had a different legal counsel. this was before ty cobb got on board. >> true. >> mark castlewitz. >> as you know, his whole approach to this was let's be street fighters. challenging mueller's credentials, we did know at the time he put together a partisan group who had given generously to hillary clinton. as time has gone on, we found out exactly how partisan that was. so that was right. i think the fact that

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i want to bring in now cnn political commentator symone sanders and mike shields and rick wilson.o you, happy martin luther king jr. day to all of you. >> happy mlk day. that was a travesty. but happy mlk day. >> rick, the fallout from president trump's comments, it's continuing. even some of the president's closest allies are speaking out. watch now. >> about who said what, lindsey graham came out and said he confirmed that they did say it, he told it to tim scott who said it. these guys said they didn't hear it, but it took them 15 hours to say it. even took the president 15 hours to deny it. bottom line is unfortunate comments were exchanged behind closed doors where you thought it might stay if you're a negotiator. >> unfortunate comments. paul ryan said the same thing. those were strong words. but i mean pardon my sarcasm there. this was too much -- it was even -- it was too much for one member, fox and friends which is a show that he watches every single morning. rick, can you hear me? >> i'm sorry, i thought we were cutting to another video clip there. don, it became too mu