he visited syria, he visited saudi arabia, other countries. and this is to grasp the issues which is a good thing. it's much better than taking a decision without listening to the country's concern. it might damage these countries, it might as well damage the reputation of and image of the united states. and this is what happened. there was the decision to go to iraq. and that despite the fact there was no mass destruction weapons. and going to afghanistan as well. russia stayed eight years in afghanistan. however, russia did not achieve anything and the russians admitted that fact. there was a gentleman from the russian position came to me and said they stayed with all kinds of weapons for eight years in afghanistan without achieving a thing. so, so, and wait until we see what the americans achieve. and i often repeated that but the u.s. administration was adamant on something decided apriory. >> charlie: do you think that they should get out of afghanistan. >> if i can say the following. in iraq, there is a grain of stability but that will t

can peel syria away from iraq, which is in alliance for a while. it would further isolate iran and making it more possible for us to achieve our goals against iran and it also helped israel by limiting support that could include hezbollah and lebanon. what's wrong with that argument. >> nothing, and the israelis encouraged to talk to the syrians and the last 20 years, the fundamental program that you've got. if you're talking to people you cannot trust, you had to get the results and there are costs to this policy. and in the case of russia, by going so far to try and engage with putin. >> with putin. >> you're damaging our allies in europe who are now worried we're giving up on poland and eastern europe and ukrainian and georgia, a young and robust democracies in the region and al also-- >> and you run the risk of legitimizing the dictators. >> exactly, precisely the point. in the cold war we talked to the soviet union, but that was a massive nuclear power trying to protect a system, a huge system. these by and large are awe to beingsies protectin

there are kurds outside of iraq, in turkey, iran, and syria. but in iran itself, there is a deep fault line that has existed really since the collapse of the ultimate empire between the arab and kurdish people of iraq. and they have fought off and on for almost a century. they have also lived at peace at times, reaching accords that eventually fell apart. since 1991 -- well, there was an autonomy agreement that the kurds signed with the regime, the baath regime, in 1970, and that came apart after five years. but after 1991, the kurds were able to reinvigorate their autonomous region and occupy the area that you see on the map, the white area. since then, it they have started to develop away from the shadow of the regime, in a way, and to bring some economic growth to the area, but for many years, until 2003, the kurts were very much restricted by the fact that their only excess was through neighboring states, turkey and iran, and these states had no interest in allowing the kurds to develop too far, because these countries opposed the emergence

i cannot say, i cannot say that syria is the one that impeded ings, you know that. i know, you know and i know that. it is clear the contacts with iran are clear andhere are constant contacts between them, hamasnd gaza. you might have heard aut the demonstrationshat were sted in tehran a coupl days back ago. they say no gaza, n lebanon. we are, we can spi ourlood for the sake of tehran. no gaza,o gaza. and no lebanon referring to hezbollah. bu we coul sacrifice their lives for the sake of death. but they don't ca about gaza, th don't care about lebanon this wou give you the bottom line ofhat's going on. charlie: do you believe iran plays a destabilizing role? >> iould likeo tell y something about in. an and t internal problems we have of the cntry, there is some interferee of other countries, from forei countries, not from iran that pushed theranians toold these demonstrations and t strikes and all these things. i suppose there issome part interfering with ira in the meantime, however, until iran, i say to iran,f you complain of th interventions against the forces o

and i think syria is the other one. so if you look at syria, saudi arabia, egypt, those are the's and many smaller arab nations, too, that are very active. >> rose: is the president on the right track, do you think? first with mitchell, second the cairo speech. >> yes. i do believe the cairo speech is very useful. but it has to be followed up by action. >> rose: and the action ought to be simply saying we're on the case. they've got mitchell there going from one capital to another. >> yes. more than just envoys. i mean, having been an envoy it's got to be more substan tomorrow that. but senator mitchell is establishing offices in jerusalem. he's got people on the ground, there's permanent presence increasing in size. i think that's important, you have to work economic, political security issues, work then in detail, do it simultaneously, light a thousand fires out there. >> rose: but isn't this one place that does need an envoy? even though you could argue envoys occasionally cause some misunderstanding of accountabilit

countries like syria or egypt. even israel which has a democratic system, how has constant war or involvement in constant confrontation weakened the possibility of restraint on the executive on what we -- on what a very prescient author called the national security state thatm developed during o cold war in this country. these are countries that have national security states. these are countries whose executive has been strengthened and strengthened again and strengthened again by constant conflict. now, obviously, we didn't start these conflicts in most cases but we did exacerbate them. we did much less to solve the arab-israeli conflict than we did to profit from it, have our arms industries profit from it and have our weapon systems win in wars in which they were used, the same is true of the soviets. they profited. they profited from it. they exploited it. instead of, i would argue, doing all that might have been done no word to resolve these conflicts this has been very, very negative for the countries of thi

>>> the reverend jesse jackson who, himself, went to syria in 1983 to free a captured american pilot us intimate detail. a man who has done a very close version of the task the former president is currently attempting joins us to talk about how this works right after this. >>> here's your tuesday business travel forecast. i'm meteorologist bill karins. problem area, showers and thunderstorms moving through missouri heading for the ohio valley where we could see severe weather and turbulence probably in the air. so far the big cities in the east are looking great. very much a summer-like day. out in the west hot and dry from phoenix into denver. have a great day. (music plays) wellbeing. we're all striving for it. purina cat chow helps you nurture it in your cat... with a full family of excellent nutrition and helpful resources. purina cat chow. share a better life. tylenol doesn't interfere with certain high blood pressure medicines the way aleve metimes can. that's one reason why doctors recommend tylenol more than any other brand of pain reliever. it's the chevy open house. and now

it is better than syria. we have to live with it. i think it is a dangerous assumption. first of all, iraq is not lost. secondly, if you're going to take a position, that means you're not going to compromise now. everybody at the un is totally lost. the challenge for the united states and for kirkuk is to make -- is to send a very clear message to the kurdish leadership that they need to make an accommodation with baghdad at this point. they have to make a compromise on territory. >> i am going to combine two of their questions. which of the parties before the new kurdish government? -- what should the priorities before the new kurdish government? >> who is the new kurdish government? we have to see the government emerge. we do not know who will form the government appeared very likely, it will be the kdp and pok. this pivots on the issue of how many positions the pok will get in the new coalition during there's a pilot -- there is a possibility -- in the new coalition. there's a possibility that the kdp say, why would we give you the prime ministership when you did not

iraq demanded syria turn over two men suspected in the bombings, but syria has refused to do so. >>> former vice president dick cheney today strongly defended cia interrogation tactics. the obama administration yesterday released documents relating to the interrogations and began an investigation into possible wrongdoing. but the former vice president said those tactics were successful and that they prevented further attacks and saved lives. brian todd has our report. >> it's pretty clear that the president -- >> reporter: the former vice president claims vindication over how terrorist suspects were treated in u.s. custody. a statement from dick cheney says, "the documents released monday clearly demonstrate that the individuals subjected to enhanced interrogation techniques provided the bulk of intelligence we gained about al qaeda. this intelligence saved lives and prevented terrorist attacks." but cheney never says the techniques themselves, like waterboarding, ever led directly to those suspects giving up key information. a cheney aide was not able to comment further on his state

the three's journey started in syria with a fourth companion. from syria to turkey, then northern iraq and arrived on thursday. on friday morning, three of them, one stayed behind because he was sick, traveled to an area right up against the iranian border. that's a beautiful tourist destination. very popular for hikers and people who edadmire nature alik. the three were in regular contact with their friend until 1:30 prm on friday. that is when the last phone call was made saying we are surrounded by the iranian military. local police did say they warned the three because of the close proximity that they were in to iran saying these are tense times, you are americans, not iraqis. kurdish officials are scrambling to figure out exactly what happened. dispatching a patrol to the area where they say the three disappeared. they said they found a backpack that appears to belong to one of the americans. the concern right now is that this could escalate to an international incident, especially given the tension between the iraq-iran-american triangle.

. >> and -- jesse jackson's going to join us a little later to talk about his experience going to syria. andrea mitchell right now traveling with the secretary of state in nairobi, with some further perspective, perhaps even on the question contessa and i were just debating. andrea, what is your sense, not only of the day today but of what perhaps north korea is hoping to accomplish by sort of creating this event? >> reporter: well, i think they want r-e-s-p-e-c-t. a unilateral, bilateral relationship with the united states. they want to be negotiating with the u.s. they don't want to have china, russia, japan, south korea involved. they've been trying to get this nuclear negotiation going between the united states and north korea. and so far the u.s. you know, the bill clinton administration, george bush administration and now again the obama administration all saying we have to deal with this regionally, even though there are, of course, side talks. they've been wanting to get attention. there's been a lot of very nasty undiplomatic exchanges between hillary clinton, for instance, and

from syria to turkey and crossed into northern iraq. it might seem strange they were coming to a place known as a war zone. northern iraq is very different from the rest of iraq. hasn't been plagued by the levels of violence and sectarian infighting that caused much of the bloodshed here and is in fact thriving. they arrived. and one fell ill. on friday morning, the other three went to this area near the border. kept in regular contact with their friend who stayed behind. until they placed a phone call, 1:30 local time. we're surrounded by the iranian military. that is last that anyone has heard from any of them. the concern, of course, is that this could escalate into an international incident. especially given the tensions between the u.s./iraq/iran triangle. arwa damon. thank you, hoping the best for the hikers. appreciate that. >>> the trials for some 100 iranian protestors are reportedly taking place today in tehran. these are the men and women arested in the streets. you saw earlier following disputed re-election of the iranian pr

>> the two i am referring to is wajeha al-huwaider and from syria to also push the envelope very much. you look at individuals who treasure their rights and their freedoms as individual into question the culture around them. and of course they have democratic inclinations. and i think they can be used as a probing the tolerance and probing their environment. and in fact, they provide outstanding die. i think the most difficult cases you have are the ones on iraq and iran. and the difficulty is one very much within the complexity of the two individuals you chose. and obviously it is not an easy task to try and choose one out of the 18 million iranians, and one i guess in that case out of arab countries. both characters were maybe with good intentions and definitely i would say being young, attractive to ideals, walk into revolutions and coups and regime changes. and then they get exposed to all sorts of things while they have been part of these regimes. and then either they were forced, kicked out, threatened, whatever it is, they move out. but the big question come, and again i am rai

. >> mitchell delivered syria, should the president put limits on these other envoys that are crowding hillary? >> he brought them in there specifically to cover these areas. you can't limit somebody who wants to try and resolve the middle east dispute between the isrealis and palestinians. >> do you think he is dividing up the world and giving it it out in envoys? >> if i were the secretary of state, i would object to it. >> actually, on meet the press, she said it's a good idea because the world is big and the world is complicated. we'll be right back with prediction s.the sharpest minds, best sources, hardest talk. the mclaughlin group is brought to you byismisssippi development authority. visit when planning for retirement these days, the forecast is full of ifs. if i'm too exposed to downturns. if i'll go through my savings too fast. to help you feel more confident consider putting a portion of your savings in a metlife variable annuity. when the market goes up, it gives your assets a potential to grow. while protecting you if the market goes down with a steady stream of income. l

>>> diplomats were called, charges flying between iraq and syria over the deadly bombings in baghdad last week that killed more than 100 people. iraq recalled its ambassador from syria and demanded the syrian government hand over two suspects from the attack. it claims they are former members of the saddam hussein's ousted baath party. that group claimed responsibility for the attack. syria in turn ordered its ambassador home saying the iraqi claims were made up for political goals. >>> a developing story now in afghanistan. more than 30 civilians killed today in car bomb attacks in the southern city of kandahar. the city has been the target of several large taliban attacks in recent years. so far, no claim of responsibility. the attack comes as the country waits for results from last week's presidential elections. partial results released today show a slim margin separating president hamid karzai and abdullah abdullah. abdullah is a former foreign minister and he was a spokesperson for the northern appliance which helped the united states top the taliban. full results are expected s

those are russia, china, iran and syria.re's proliferation happening all over the place among all of the countries. the message here was despite sanctions being brandished by the bm administration and grudgingly approved by part of the u.n. security council that kim jong-il knows how to regain control. grab two amm, and now the signal is that all of this sanctions-busting traffic happen ing among all of the states will and can continue. >> hold okay. president obama salutes president clinton. >> i want to thank president bill clinton. i had a chance to talk to him for the extraordinary humanitarian effort that rethe release of the two journalists. >> they both used the words humanitarian. clinton and obama used it. >> it was a humanitarian effort and result. >> it was. is it an attempt to say that the fact that the white house was in on this from the beginning? >> of course. clinton didn't go there without knowing the outcome. >> did they have any reserve course in case it misfired? >> i can't imagine they would imagine it w

some people who judge just -- judge us like syria, our relationship with syria has never been the most smoothest and there will be many times we were a month to tv stations that gave coverage inside syria and outside you. just two weeks ago, he was classified as the arch enemy and he was on our tv for one hour. and many other leaders -- [inaudible] >> i don't imagine any leader from the syrian opposition or any human abuse, that was not covered by al-jazeera. again, as i said we do not play a role of being the campaigners for certain opposition groups in order to wage war against the government that that is not our position. that is not what the cantu and will report about the good but they cannot ask us to be the campaigners against the region. >> i happened to notice what al-jazeera anchorman was arrested in syria. and so, you know. but in any case, yes. right here. no, i'm sorry. we have rules. [inaudible] >> okay. >> is not a secret al-jazeera was sponsored and funded by government, you know. but, you know, my choice i would say that we are not very keen that commercializing al-jaz

three four americans started out their journey in syria. two of them are students there. from syria they went to turkey. on the 28th of july they crossed into northern iraq from turkey to. from thursday they drove and checked into a very cheap backpacker-like type hotel. they left that hotel early friday morning but only three of them left. one was sick and stayed behind. the three went to this area called ahmed awa, it's a tourist attraction because of the natural beauty that exists there. it's mountainous. there are a number of waterfalls. they were in regular contact with their friend who had stayed behind, talking about what a wonderful time they were having. then things began to change because at 1:30 p.m. on friday local time the last foeb call that their friend who stayed behind received from them was that they were surrounded by the iranian military. that is the last that anyone has heard from these three. now, tourist police in the area say that they did spot them prior to that phone call being made that they did warn them about the proximity that they were into

that is a terrorist regime, that has proliferated nuclear technology to a terror sponsoring state in syriaand brutalizes its own people, and there bill clinton is, in effect, begging to get these journalists back. bret: there is a report that the journalists were told to contact their families and tell them "give us former president clinton and we'll let you go." we'll see if that turns out to be true. charles, what about the negotiating with terrorists or terrorist-supporting states? >> it's always humiliating, but in the end you have to do it, and it's been done by the reagan administration, by the bush administration, father and son, and clinton, but it's not a triumph on our part by any means. we have had hostages in iran, and we quietly released a bunch of killers, iranians caught in iraq, and we released them months later, and again, they want to hide what the exchange is about. that's why we will won't learn about the further ransom until a lot later. bret: iran, do you think they are looking at this, with three americans just crossing the border from rir rack, that might be charges

the two that i am referring to is one you referred to and the other from syria to also pushed the envelope very much. you look at individuals treasurer the rights and freedoms as individuals and question the culture around them, and course we have space inclinations, and i think they can be used as probing the tolerance and probing their environments, and in fact they provide outstanding value. i think the most difficult to cases you have are the ones on iraq and iran and the difference is born within the complexity of the two individuals each post and obviously it is not an easy task to try to choose one out of the 80 billion iranians, and 1i guess in that case out of arab countries somebody both characters were mabey with good intentions and definitely i would say being yawn and attracted to ideas walk into evolutions and coups and regime changes and then they get exposed to all sorts of things while they are being part of these regimes. and whether they were forced out, kicked out, threatened wherever it is they move out, but the big question comes, and again i am raising the question b

>> now, the attacks come a day after prime minister nory al- maliki, during a visit to neighboring syria, headed iraq's security forces. >>> meanwhite, the -- meanwhile, the taliban steps up efforts to scare people from the polls. they threaten violence against anyone who takes part in the election. three u.s. marines died today, trying to provide security. and six election workers have already been killed. the united nations considers tomorrow's vote as one of the most complex elections being attempted in the world this year. >>> the search continues for the florida girl who disappeared from her father's home in florida, six months ago. sally is live in the newsroom with new developments. >> reporter: police say they may have the key to finding out what happened to haleigh cummings. her father's girlfriend was watching the girl when she went missing. misty cross theland said-- crossland said the girl was taken while she was sleeping. but now, police say that physical evidence contradicts what she told police. they also say there is no evidence anyone entered the home and took the child.

i think he was from syria. he was a palestinian. he lived in california for quite a way of -- for quite awhile. >> where is he now? what's he is in san quentin for life. >> let's run this clip from 1968. what senator robert francis kennedy died at 140 -- 1:44 p.m. today, on june 6, 1968. with senator kennedy, at the time of his death were his wife ethel, his sisters mrs. stephen smith, [unintelligible] brother-in-law mr. stephen smith and sister-in-law of mrs. john f. kennedy. he was 42 years old. thank you. >> what else do you remember about that particular moment? >> i remember that i left out of that list of people, senator edward kennedy. we made the correction shortly thereafter were. i do not remember a lot about my own feelings because it was so much that needed to be done. i've was lucky that i had a lot of duties to take care of a lot of reporters and get them information, make travel alignments, and one man that was working with me, we started making lists of people to be invited to the funeral. there was a lot to be done.

they destroyed a north korean reactor in syria in 2007. if anything, the threat posed by iran's nuclear program is even graver, so based on that, you would have to think they probably would. greta: they have given iran until september as to whether they will have discussions about nuclear weapons. what happens after the date passes, if iran just basically blows us off? >> well, the theory then, at least as articulated by the administration, is that we then turn to sanctions, perhaps against refined gasoline being imported into iran, perhaps others. all of that is very interesting and, in fact, when have been a great idea years ago. whether those sanctions can be put in place and have any impact on iran's nuclear program today is a very different story, but the administration is running out of time, and i think they are aware of that, but the israelis who are running out of time, too, because the military option with iran is declining over time. greta: they have enough uranium enriched within six months and a nuclear weapon within one year

. >> reporter: four americans travelled from syria to turkey.m turkey they crossed into the northern kurdish run part of iraq. the four traveled -- one of them stayed behind. >> reporter: these people are described as tourists on an outing t. three contacted a college and said they mistakingly entered iranian territory and troops surrounded them. >> reporter: the three americans are believed to be in iranian custody possibly held in iran. this incident very much under investigation. >> the american embassy in baghdad looking into that matter tonight. >>> and from india, a picture you have to see to believe. #. >> reporter: hundreds of infants were dropped from the roof of a mosque in western india. see for yourself. >> reporter: the children mostly under the age of two are caught in a bed sheet, the families are guaranteed good health and prosperity. >> that is what you call a bouncing baby boy. children's advocates not pleased. that brings us to our friday night punch line brought to us by jon stewart. he is stunned that republicans have a clai

you know, they didn't even discover that there was a nuclear danger in syria. facts are stronger than institutions, and institutions shouldn't lag behind the realities. >> and one of those realities, warns "the wall street journal," is that the moolas ruling iran have decided they have nothing to fear. quote, they've long concluded that the u.n. is no threat as iaea chief has become an apology man for iran's program and can see that the west lacks the will to do anything. on fox news sunday, former vice president dick cheney was asked why the bush administration didn't take out the iranian nuclear program. >> it wasn't my decision to make >> would you have favored military action? >> i was probably a bigger advocate of military action than any of my colleagues. >> the latest iaea report notes iran has 300 fewer centrifuges than in june, and for the first time in three years, iran's output of enriched uranium is down, but no one knows why. >> i think iran has technical problems. they could be trying to calibrate centrifuges, thinking of how they're going to go f

he was expelled from egypt, from syria, from jordan and lebanon for subversion. he partook in the under of kuwait by saddam hussein in 19 abu mohsen was the architect of plo ties with the ruthless communist regimes in moscow and east germany and other eastern european countries. he is the one who took care of the logistics of the massacre when 11 israeli athletes were massacred in 1972. >> mike: in case you didn't recognize the name of abu mohsen, it's the men that most of us in the united states now has mahmoud abbas the prime minister of the palestinian authority. he might better understand why so many israeli officials are leery of trusting a man who reportedly arranged the financing for the 1972 massacre of israeli athletes in munich politics. >> jerusalem is an unique and amazing city, considered a holy site for jews, christians and muslims, therefore it's where the most hotly contested uses of property in all the world. is it possible to have jerusalem governed by more than one government at the same time? how difficult would it be to have both canada and t

and ascension countries of five ascension countries which cuba, syria, iran, north korea -- i don't know if i'm missing anyone. iran. i said iran. but anyway, there are five control -- or rather sanctioned countries at this point. now, as i mentioned before, the cdc select agent versus the ccl. there are similarities but then the cdc then regulates a transfer of pathogenic organisms within or among u.s. labs. and the b.i.s. however controls these pathogenic organisms to other nations. and as i mentioned before, the vast majority of cdc agents are controlled by the b.i.s. which means it 98% of the agents are controlled. however, the cdc sometimes add new organisms onto that list. and so it takes -- there's a lag time between what the cdc have on their list and what the control have on their regular list. so in other words it takes time for them to be updated. but in general, we try to keep the cdc select agents and the commerce control agents similar. so that there is -- there will be an overlap. and in addition to data, the b.i.s. control organisms and not on the select agent list. so in

look, president ronald reagan didn't necessarily like the fact that reverend jesse jackson went to syriaen that officer came home, there was a celebration at the white house. that's what's most important. not egos. the actual success rate of bringing those two women home. that's the most important. >> bill clinton, jeff, though did tarnish his reputation somewhat during the campaign. certainly his relationship with barack obama paid a price. has everything been patched up? are we turning a page here? >> i think we're certainly turning a page. the past is not going away. it was a rough moment -- rough long series of months for bill clinton in that campaign. he was never entirely comfortable. he was never as successful campaigning for his wife as he was for himself. but, he has stepped into a role that seems like it will be a good one for him, helping out where he can in these discrete individual missions. he can't be the person to do middle east peace. that's too complicated. that's too big and long a job. but these discrete missions i think is a perfect opportunity for him. >> do you agr

he was giving a clear weapons all over the world to north korea, syria.is a hero in number three. the worst thing they did was give him a house arrest. >> >> i dealt with that when those in the government. from a technical point of view, it is unlikely you will have an accidental detonation of nuclear weapons. greta: i'm not worried about that. >> the real problem is the political control. if that fragments and the military comes apart and reticles takeover, you can have all the technical protection to want. of those weapons can be given to terrorists or used by the people. that is where the risk is. greta: now you have the pakistani army. that is the best that is going on. they are fighting the taliban. they are keeping children from being taken from their homes. why in the world should we think they are still effective in protecting their nuclear arsenal? it sounds like in -- and overwhelmed the mayor predict overruns military. >> the nuclear weapons are the ultimate defense against india. that was even before the islamists is begin working their way to

i think syria. he was a palestinian. i don't know where - he lived in california for a while. >> where is he today? >> in san quentin for life. >> at that time do you remember how old he was? >> late 20's early 30's? >> let's run this clip of the announcement. >> senator robert francis kennedy died at 1:44 am today, june 6th, 1968. with senator kennedy, at the time of his death where his wife, e they wthethel, sisters. patricia law ford and brother-in-law mr. stephen smith, sister in law mrs. john f. kennedy. he was 42 years old. >> what else do you remember about that particular moment, circumstances? >> well, i remember that i left out a list of people that were with him. his brother senator edward kennedy and we made that correction shortly there after. i don't remember a lot about my own feelings bus there was so much going on that had to be done. i had a lot of duties take care of. maybe 100 reporters who were on the scene i had to get them information and make travel arrangements and make them public. gary sal in g

four americans started out in syria. two of them are students there, headed off to turkey and entered northern iraq on the 28th of july. they made their way from the city from ramill on thursday, and then friday morning, three of them, because -- they went to this place one day behind because he wasn't feeling well. ahmed awa is a popular tourist destination, mountains, hiking routes, water falls. it's absolutely stunning. but it is also right up against the iranian border. they stayed in regular contact with their friend who had remained behind. but then placed a very disturbing phone call at 1:30 on friday saying we are surrounded by the iranian military. and that is the last that anyone has heard from them. now, local tourist police in the area apparently did spot the group of three before this time, and warned them about the proximity that they were into iran, about the fact that they should be careful, because they were, after all, americans, and not iraqis, and that these are very tense times. kurdish officials are

four american tourists departed from syria. two were students there. heading for turkey. on the 28th of july they crossed from turkey into northern iraq to the city of irbil. 30th of july they went from irbil to another city. early morning, 31 us of july. three of them got into a taxi and went to an area, one stayed behind because he was set to be sick. the three stayed in regular contact with their friend who stayed behind. until 1:30 p.m. local time on the 31st. where they called and said "we are surrounded by iranian soldiers." the area, very appealing for tourists because of the natural terrain, the beauty that exists there, also right up against the iranian border. local tourist police in the region are said to have run into the three americans and told them to be careful because of the proximity to the iranian border. the police said to them "you are americans not iraqis." these are very tense times, beware. the americans who stayed behind, then departed his hotel at around 4:30 local time on the 31st of july. at 6:00 p.m. local time, the kurdish security forces wen

that is one of the reasons we have open dialogue with syria and also between north korea that we haveof u.s. citizens being detained abroad how does that affect u.s. diplomacy? >> we cannot stress enough it is unwise for american citizens to wander across borders into possible countries. >> retaking any preventative means? >> as three said we encourage americans to travel but they have to be prudent when they travel. hi think as a general matter, it is important to note come individual cases like this should be handled as a legal issue, a humanitarian issue, in some cases come a case of a couple of countries that have been in the news recently, the we have a significant issues and we have made it clear with a country like north korea, i ran, we wanted to address the concerns we have about those countries with the concerns they may have with u.s. policy. but in terms of holding a mirror ken's hostage to those discussions, we think that is completed the it and opprobrious. >> had the missing russian cargo ship last seen two weeks ago after being attacked by pirates in the english channe

the four americans, four of them started out in the beginning left from syria and then traveled to turkey, crossing into northern iraq on july 28th. and then on july 31st, they ended up in suey ma knee, where three of them, including josh went to an area near where the iranian border. shawn mcfessle stayed behind because he wasn't feeling well. this is a beautiful tourist destination but it's right up against the border with iran. so tourist police who ran into the three had actually warned them about the proximity that they were into iran, told them to be careful saying, look, you're american. you're not iraqi. and these are very tense times. the last that shawn mcfessle, who stayed behind heard from his three friends came in the form of a phone call at 1:30 on friday, where they said we are surrounded by iranian military personnel. that is the last that anyone has ever heard from them. obviously, there have been ongoing diplomatic efforts to try to gain access to the three. the u.s. state department saying that it has asked swiss diplomats in tehran to try to confirm iranian's press tv

1973 stop t flow of oil, but moderate governments were overthrown in iraq, in libya, in egypt, in syria and so then and replaced by extremist governments. the soviet union did gain a grip on many regimes in the region. jews are accused of this dual loyalty on account of the existence of israel. was he mostly right? >> no. i mean, in fact, one other thing we should say -- one of the other arguments, which was a very strong one at the time was that they all said war is going to break out between the new state and the arabs and the new jewish state could not and would not win. they were convinced of that. there was no way the jews would win and defeat any arab armies. it would be a bloodbath a the middle east would erupt in fire. that was also part of their argument. in fact, that was a main part of the argument. they were totally wrong in that. they didn't think they could defend themselves and they didn't think they could win. you know, certainly, the point is -- >> in fairness to the people making it, it was an improbable victory. >> yeah. but to a lot of the jewish leaders i palestine,

the four started out in syria, traveling to turkey before they crossed into northern iraq on july 28th. on july 30th arrived and then the 31st the three traveled to an area near the iranian border known as ahmed awa. shon mcfefle stayed behind because he was feeling ill. the three at the border were said to have been worned by local tourist police that they were very close to iran and they should watch out. the border in this area isn't a fence, a natural border and they should pay attention because these were very tough times. the three were last heard from when they placed a border back to shon mcfefle at 1:30 on friday saying we are surrounded by the iranian military there have been ongoing efforts to try to secure specific information about what happened after that point and gain access to the three that are believed to be in custody in iran. the u.s. state department saying that it has asked swiss diplomats in iran to try to verify reports that the three are being held there. and if that is, in fact, the case, try to gain counselor access to them. the great concern here is that th

he's giving nuclear weapons all over the world, north korea, syria, and he's a hero in north korea. the worst thing they do is give him house arrest and let him go. so this is a country where, don't worry, our nuclear arsenal is under control. >> i dealt with that when i was in the government, and from a technical point of view it's unlikely that you'll have accidental detonations of nuclear weapons. greta: i'm not worried about the accidental. >> the real problem is the political control, and if that fragments, if the military croms apart, if radicals take over on the civilian side of government, you can have all the technical protections you want, those weapons can be given to terrorists or used by the people in political control. that's where the risk is. it's not a technical problem. greta: so now you have the pakistani army, and you've got them fighting the taliban in the northern part of the country and if they are ineffective to keep even children from being taken from their homes, even protecting the children, why in the world should we think that they're so effective in pro