now are you talking about the refugees outside of syria or the ones within syria that you work with? because reading my notes here it says there have a lot of nutritionally deprived people there. what is the dichotomy of the difference there? visibly? is it distinctive? >> yeah. thank you very much, congressman yo ho. >> in syria they are worse off than inside of syria. >> and when you are trying to get access into syria are you running -- you have to worry about the assad government forces and then you have to worry about freedom fighters and isis and all of the other ones. just seems like one of the things i've seen on these other meetings that we've had, in particular i think it was afghan last year when we were talking to dr. shaw he said that afghan was allocated or appropriated a billion in foreign aid through usaid but they can't account for 300$300 million and as you are going through taking our aid and i would feel better if it was branded. that is the american taxpayer's money and i agree with these other people if we are sending our money over there, i think they need to k

syria plan as turkish operation into syria as an aggression and says there will be repercussions. >> thousands gather in kiev as a blast kills two in kharkiv. >> in the heart of colombia rain forest conservationists are fight to go preserve jaguars for future generations. >> fighters loyal to isil claimed an attack on the iranian ambassador's residence in tripoli, targets the building with homemade bonds. more on this now. that was an empty building, but a highly significant attack, wasn't it? >> very, very much. it hamasive propaganda value for isil or isis. remember, you have a fierce regional war by performy takes place in yemen and syria. iran is seen as a major supporter of the sectarian based regimes in damascus. an attack against the iranian residence, the iranian ambassador's resident basically is designed to appeal to the social base of isis. that isil is the defender of the persecuted and marginalized sunni community. this particular attack is designed to really gain a great deal of publicity within the sunni arab world. >> you talk about the marginalized sunni community. w

, where was the world in syria. she went there to say, we're right here. america is right here. >> she represents everything that is good in humanity. here is this young person who grew up in the united states not compelled by anything than her own desire to help the world and chose to go to a place like syria where there was a lot of suffering. her words resonated very loudly. you can see how impactful she was in the simple facebook posts. >> let's listen back in. >> kayla would stand on her head. those of us who know her and know what a free little spirit she was, we just delight in that that kayla remained kayla. they tried to silence her. they locked her up. they kept us silent out of here but now she's free. even in captivity and that she is grateful. her light shines. we thank you. syria, we hear you. we're going to do something. >> hi. my name is erin street and i'm here to talk about kayla mueller. kayla was my closest friend my kindred spirit. i'm going to miss her more deeply than words can express. kayla

syria is a tier three country. the recommendations for child soldiers, can you shed any light on how a child soldiers we are talking about from any side? you strongly pointed to the barbarity of selling girls as well -- young as 12 into sex slavery. are any being rescued? is there any guesstimate as to how much of this abuse is going on? what happens when there is a rescue? if a 12-year-old has been abused, is there psychological treatment? i am wondering is our response integrating a faith-based response, muslim or christian with best practices for psychological health? the healing process, the sense of personal reconciliation that you are a victim and not responsible for this, it happens more effectively in a faith waste setting where there is also the best psychological practices. i am wondering what we are doing along those lines. >> thank you. as i mentioned in all of our humanitarian assistance for grams, we include protection issues. we have put in $26 million is ethically and protection programs, child prot

coming up, a hearing on human rights and eight in syria. -- human rights and aid in syria. john bolton, former u.s. ambassador to the united nations discusses national security challenges friday. we will have that event live starting at 12:25 p.m. eastern. later, president obama is in california to speak at the white house summit on cyber security and consumer protections. it focuses on public and private sector efforts to deal with cyber threats. it is lie that 2:15 p.m. eastern on c-span 2. >> this sunday on "q&a" filmmaker thomas allen harris explores how african-americans have been portrayed in photographic images from slavery up until today. >> the film is based in many ways on the work of deborah willis. there also very much aware that there is this other narrative going on as well, in which black people were constructed post slavery and even before the end of slavery, as something other than human. it was part of the marketing of photographs and memorabilia and stereotypes that now would be considered crass but in many ways they are still haunting us in terms of the

the thing on everybody's minds is syria. but the democratic republic of congo, we have been there for a long time. if you look at somalia another example, it has gone on for avery long time. it is not only that we as humanitarian workers are frustrated. i think that the citizens of the world if i can describe them like that are also frustrated because they look to us as an international community they look to the u.n. as a multilateral organization, they look to our global leaders and say but hold often a second. we thought you had dealt with that, we thought you had solved that but this is what you think about sudan and south sudan. you talk about darfur and people are confused, that was so many years ago what do you mean? this is an issue still a problem. >> let's take syria for example we know the failing is on the part of the administration, the assad regime, they are watching ton sphwhrant their brothers and sisters in other arab nations were doing so and some of it was a success and it didn't work out that way in syria

-led coalition in iraq and syria. the evaporation of the ambivalence was a gruesome murder of a lion, or a representative of the jordanian air force, and that touched people. the ambivalence is about what i.s.i.s. did to that particular individual. it's not necessarily a change in the level of ambilicence to u.s. -- ambivalence to u.s. policy or a change in concerns that some have with society, or jordan's alignment with u.s. policy, what we see among the elite commentary coming out of imam, the capital, is not reflective of what we see amongst some of the world tribes in the south. >> jordan is always portrayed as being on the knife edge. engaged in a permanent balancing act, vouched by bigger and sometimes maligned forces on all its borders. well, saddam hussein is dead and gone. hava el-assad is dead and gone, and his son has his hands full with a collapsing syria. what is the balance p balancing act now? >> if you look at the king's father the challenges he had was state-based. you had the problem of a hostile reg

syrians in syria are a minority. leaders are appealing for help against i.s.i.l. >> all the political parties and the community want to issue a statement to condemn the actions by i.s.i.l. and ask the international international community and friends here and abroad to rescue the land under the control of a terrorist organizations. >> there were clashes in the area. the kurds, with the u.s.-led coalition air strikes made advances in the province they managed to take control of several villages after defeating i.s.i.l. in the border town. i.s.i.l. contacted hundreds if not thousands in syria and iraq. it's been accused of war crimes and abuses including the mass kidnapping of yazidi, in north western iraq. this was the first time the armed group captured so many christians in syria. i.s.i.l. hasn't targeted minorities, but any group or person that objected to its rule. >> there's a slight increase in support in the u.s. for the fight against i.s.i.l. according to the pew research center 63% of those polled are behind

it expands russian influence in the region because russia only has major relations with syria, and syria a state of all-out war. egypt would serve as a major economic base in terms of arms energy economic ties as well. i mean economic relations now more than $5 billion annually between egypt and russia but also as a card to tell the americans and western powers that russia is not isolated. particular after the latest rounds of sanctions against russia by the americans. >>> police in egypt have arrested 21 football fans foling sunday's stampede at a stadium in cairo. meanwhile new video has emerged. >> reporter: these are supporters of the football team waiting to be allowed in. to enter they have to pass through a narrow metal passageway but the metal structure collapses. fans are trapped. people panic. with no barrier in place to stop fans from getting in. the police has to decide do they allow the crowd to enter the stadium or force them back. they decide to fire tear gas at the crowd. fans rush to escape and it sets off the stampede. security experts say the police should have handled

the cancer is in syria.s to me every policy decision right now in the white house is driven by their desire to get a deal with iran and this affects how they're responding to the problem in syria because they don't want to upset that apple cart because syria is allied with tehran. >> and the intelligence community morale is what at this point? there is a big zero? >> you first. >> it's terrible. >> i think for people who have been on this issue and i hesitate to really speak on their behalf, but they're dedicated to the issue, but they are frustrated that when the information has been presented in a very clear way, there has been a denial of the facts on the ground and that means you can not tackle the problem. >> and at the end of the day, we're really talking about unand undergoverned spaces and we're not contesting those space. it is going to require all instruments of statecraft. obviously the jordanians will be a huge component of that and next to israel, our closest ally in the region. >> to frank's po

more about the syria coming back to ohio.that? >> given the technology we have today seems we would have a way to identify turk de disappeared and flew back from turkey. we have found out where they were. >> that was after the fact. they are not where they need to be and where are we going? >> you couldn't we know whwho t theirs. this guy because a turkey and i asked him what were you doing? he han under surveillance by russia. >> somebody is dropping the ball. >> facilitating and keeping track of terrorist travel is an area that our community is trying to get its arms around. for years there were negotiated issue pnr. the europeans didn't want to maintain that data for privacy issues. finally they are recognizing there's real value on that. >> a lot of these guys unlike jamaica. they have to hear you are going up to return but a halfway. even if they had all of that data. boys are boys. >> the turks told us within 24-hours the girlfriend of aun of the perpetrators in pair ritz already in syria. the they shallings are kwiendi

have the influence, extremism inside syria that i am the guardian of syria.ar from the words is denial denial and then denial. that's the status he's been following from day one. there's no apprising, no protests. he's denying the barrel bomb that is the whole world is watching and seeing. >> calling the accusations childish. do these mannerisms and responses surprise you? is that characteristic? >> it's part of his character when talking to the public to give examples and lectures and mock other countries that are -- he's not in agreements with. but, i have to say, it was like also something from his first speech, at the beginning of the up risal that people wanted a moment of silence for the martyrs and he denied the people. also he's coming saying i'm the one protecting the country, the country being bombarded by his own forces a country where more than 11 million lost their homes. 3 million refugees. that's certainly not the role of terrorism that pushed them out of their homes. >> you have met him several times, worked in the country. you were last there

syria is another matter.atty: how do you counter this with people who are drawn to go to sacrifice their lives? should we be dealing with the clerics and the hierarchy? if you can't make the point about not leaving, you have lost them. >> i don't like the term "countering violent extremism." we should be doing counter-radicalization and preventing people to go down -- from going down the path in the first place. it means countering the ideology and it means, as the u.k. has put forward, not just saying what you are against. what you are for. what western democracies are for. we need to work with all of these different things. we need to work with clerics social media, people in the community, teachers, social workers. we need to do this all at once from the public perspective and the private sector perspective. having attended the counter-terrorism summit, the most exciting part of it was watching the private sector and the public sector. the deliverables that come out of it were judged last week. >katty: it

so if you defeat them in mosul, they just run into syria. so that's an important part of this as we go forward as well. >> i ask the question because the president of egypt, el sisi wants to create this pan-arab ground force. >> it's important. for the first time in the last couple of weeks, we've seen jordan -- you've now seen the people of jordan very clear that they want to do something against isis. now we have egypt that's come out and said, we have to do something about isis. so we're starting to see the leaders in the middle east starting to coalesce around this is a problem that we have to deal this. i think that's important and it will be important as we move forward. we need them all to be involved. so i think we want to be able to build a coalition that wants to assist. in my mind without that it's always going to be difficult to rid ourselves of this threat. >> much more of my interview with general odierno coming up later this hour also in "the situation room" later today. >>> when we come back more of the breaking news we're fo

the question is syria. syria is the incubator of the isis problem. how do you get rid of isis in syria? what do you about the brutality of bashar al assad? is it going to be turks, juror jordanian jordanians, american troops interspersed? maybe. but right now it's not looking like many good options in syria. >> assad did an interview with the bbc in which it was suggested that there was some coordination going on, not that the u.s. told assad's forces where u.s. fighters were going to be flying but that maybe iraq or some other country was serving as an intermediary. i would assume that's necessary so that the planes aren't crashing into each other. >> it's possible. and it's possible that coordination is happening. but there's a huge psychological advantage for assad to say that. he is demoralizing the free syrian army believe and they should believe the united states is on their side the moderate rebel opposition. if they're under the impression that the united states is in any way coordinating with bashar al assad that would be very demoralizing t

so syria was the perfect state from the iranian perspective because syria did whatever a iran wanted it to do. charlie: and it gave them access to lebanon and hezbollah. mike: exactly. and has bala couldn't exist -- hezbollah couldn't exist without the support it gets from iran. syria is important for a lot of reasons. that's why this is so hard. charlie: before i go to iran you do have the sense that you've got to do something now, that this thing is growing, becoming more violent, and they are consolidating. yes, they've been stopped and at some point there's going to be the launch of a campaign to get back mosul and there's the pashmerga who say if you give them the weapons, they will fight. but we are not sending them anything, so they say. i can't understand why we wouldn't support. mike: i know exactly what they're saying. we are clearly not doing enough from their perspective. i think we have to accelerate. we have to accelerate what we are doing on the ground and it doesn't necessarily need to be us, but we have to -- charlie: in fact it shouldn't be us. except for air and we

turkey has been the key transit point into syria. turkish and european authorities are still struggling to stem the flow. the u.s. is tracking the movements as best it can. >> we have systems in place to track these individuals as they could and go. it's difficult to pick up so called broken travel. >> what is that broken travel? >> you fly to country a, and then you go to country b on the ground. we don't know that fact. >> reporter: a senior british diplomat tells cnn that women are a new and growing target for isis recruiters. the terrorism research group trackest estimates that nearly one in six are women. the network extends to the u.s. homeland. in october, three teenage girls from colorado were intercepted at frankfurt airport in germany as they were trying to make their way to syria to join isis. it was their parents who tipped off the fbi. another american, 19-year-old shannon connelly was arrested at denver international airport last year. she was sentenced to four years in prison after confessing she wanted to become an is

the syria arab army is carrying out its mission with courage. >>> more than 3 million have left syria refuge. another 7 million have been internally displaced. the u.n. office for the coordination of internal affairs says more than 12 million people are in need of assistance. valerie amos says the u.n. faces be challenges. >> when i first went to syria to persuade the government that there was a humanitarian crisis four years ago, we were talking about 1 million people in need. and now it's 12. and the reality is much worse than that on the ground because if you look at what happened to infrastructure healthcare roads, to the economy, it means the majority of skirians are impacted by this crisis. we have lots of checks and balances in place to make sure that the aid that we deliver gets to the people that need it. we use all kinds of things like photographs, of deliveries and make sure that the people who are meant to get the aid report back that they have received it but there are times when aid will go missing. we saw this in somalia, with al-shabab, when tiny amounts of aid went mi

we've seen it in syria before. i was in syria in 1982. i was in hamah in february of 1982 and the syrians asked me when i came out of hamah what was i doing there? i was backpacking through. of course they never believed me. but never mind. but you get to see these delineations and these split groups. there's a lot of personality involved in this. a lot of personal quest for power. a lot of personal interest. at the end of the day as in depth as this briefing was, who knows why actors do what they do. 2008 when i was in the negotiation cell that was set up by general petraeus, very small group, mike frigen was with me sitting in the back, just wrote a great article with michael which is sighing the iranians are the best thing isis could have. the target tiers and human analysts and guys of the same intellectual brilliance of phil here, and i mean that, would come in and lay out these big charts about lines and this guy talked to this guy and he phone called him three times and they talk and they sneak way on the weekends and this and that

would you go fight in syria? >> if dash kills our brother in syria, yes, i would go there. >> reporter: but that execution and the coalition air strikes have also galvanized legions of isis supporters. in a war situation for us you have to understand it's an eye for an eye, this man told me. when we visited the southern jordanian city of ma'an, which has become fertile ground for al qaeda and isis. the people here say at least 40 young men from this town have been killed in syria of the hundreds that have gone to fight there. religious extremism is growing there. an impoverished city. many are disenchanted with the king. young men like those we met outside a mosque are also inspired to fight after watching thousands of their fellow muslims die in syria's four-year-long war. the boys? the boys? would you go fight in syria? and why? >> translator: what we watch on tv, give us the motivation to go and fight in syria. >> reporter: what is that that motivates you to want to go into syria and fight? >> translator: they

state in iraq and syria. libya is an important base for isis and obviously, it's been trying to fill the security void, because as you know, libya is fracturing along ethnic reekennal tribal ideological lines and what we know about these groups, in particular isis, they are social parasites. they are basically nourished in conflict zones isis basically finds home now in libya and yemen and other places, as well, where security breaks down. >> always good to talk to you. many thanks. >> just ahead on the sport here on the news hour, formula world one champion is airlifted to o after a high speed crash in testing. we will have the details in a few moments. >> colombia's government signed an agreement with a group dedicated to wildcat conservation aiming to preserve the jaguar corridor, a path used by the animals to move from central to south america. it is crucial for their survival. le big cats face dangers and we see what's being done to protect them. >> it became a national park deep in the amazon. the jungl

you mentioned syria already.t is certainly preoccupying most of us at the moment. >> we just looked at a map of those being displaced. in lebanon, almost 900,000 people. it's like taking the whole population of canada and moving it to the united states in a matter of a couple of years. >> yeah, the situation in lebanon is quite extraordinary. i have had the opportunity to go there in the last couple of months. you can see refugee villages everywhere throughout the country. it's equivalent to the number of canadians moving into the united states over a period of 18 months or two years. and one of the things we're beginning to ach appreciate in lebanon, it's also the local populations we have to worry about. because when such a large number of people flood across a border, settle in local towns, villages, and cities, they place an enormous stress on the local infrastructure. so whereas the humanitarian community has traditionally focused its efforts on the refugees themselves, now we're beginning to look at the hos

the infiltration in the iraqi government and now within syria, in syria it is almost complete.t is not like assad can push back against them. on top of that for the iranians, building the narrative of strength projection and protection for shia groups in the middle east, this is huge. when you feel you're under an existential threat any syria and an iranian irgc quds force guy came and said i will give you money and guns, the americans are not doing enough, they are the great satan. i would take it if i thought isis was going to destroy me. they are playing off that so effectively. bigger thing, the biggest thing. there are other regional consequences to the growth of the group from the shia jihad in syria. this question, will they magically moderate after isis is defeated. i don't believe so. did lebanese hezbollah moderate? after the lebanese pulled out in 200, they did not. the same thing happened in 2011. hey, we are to drop our arms they never did. here's the biggest thing. my buddy al hilayl. does anybody know what group this belongs to? a new, smaller young guys out of t

in fighting in aleppo, syria's biggest city. airstrikes and shelling has been suspended for six weeks. isil fighters being unlikely to observe any ceasefire. the al-qaeda linked al-nusra front is also an obstacle, dismissing the u.n. proposal as a conspiracy that the allow the syrian government to launch more assaults. the disconnect between the syrian opposition in istanbul and fighters on the ground, even if politician agree to the u.n. plan opposition fighters may not comply. let's hear from beirut. >> isil does control territory in syria and iraq, particularly in the northeast isil is not far from aleppo. anybody in the opposition say this war cannot end unless you deal with the syrian government and not just isil. the u.n. led coalition is targeting isil from the air but it doesn't have any partners on the ground. it's a very complicated process. right now isil is engaged in fears battles with the kurds in the northeastern province. it's not just a question of taking over villages. for isil, it is important because of its s

the same kind of thing in syria. you are supposed to have an opportunity to acquire your visa hear in washington dc before you go there because they don't grant visas to anybody who has -- who lives in a country that lacks diplomatic relations. so i got to the border they said go to washington to get it. i could have gotten this visa before i headed into syria but but i had been on the road for two years plus in the visas expired -- expire after six months and are only good for 90 days. here i am stuck in the border, politics, diplomacy, how do you get into syria. i can turn around and go back to jordan or i could try to go through israel and into lebanon, but i really wanted to see syria. i took out my tent, camped out at the border and waited until i finally convince somebody to call damascus and give me the okay to go into syria. i'm telling you it was probably one of the most expectations were low but it was one of the best catchers i visited. i never once had to pay for a tank of gas. any destination i went into

he said he wanted to get to syria to fight.we do know that shortly thereafter he engaged with a confidential informant who approached him in a mosque. the confidential informant working for the fbi, became friendly both with the 24-year-old and the 19-year-old and was sort of in on it even going so far as to say he himself was going to buy a ticket to travel to syria with them. they were going to turkey obviously, so that they could then cross into syria. now, the money man, he is also from brooklyn. he is 30 years old. he was arraigned in florida. we're not sure why he was in florida. we do know that he owns a series of kiosks at malls in sanvannah georgia, philadelphia pennsylvania and virginia beach. those kiosks that everybody sees where fixing cell phones and selling kitchen ware, he was the money man. he was providing small sums of money, like $1300, in order to facilitate the buying of travel documents and travel records so that this young man, this 19-year-old, could go over to turkey. we know that the money man was als

there is no single pipeline for foreign fighter travel into and out of syria. violent extremists take different routes, including land, air and sea. most routes do involve transit from turkey because of its geographic proximity to the syrian border areas where most of these groups operate. now this sense of shared threat has prompted even closer cooperation across u.s. federal agencies, and importantly with our international partners, particularly in europe. this is resulting in the development of stricter counterterrorism laws overseas increased efforts at border security among our european partners, and importantly, more willingness to share threat information among partner nations. and while these good efforts are under way and are making progress, significant work remains, particularly in ensuring that our foreign partners are able and willing to identify and stop foreign fighters when they transit their borders. both to prevent those fighters from entering and then to stop fighters from leaving, their home countries to travel abroad. now i'll turn quickly

ground combat forces to iraq or syria. it is not the authorization of another ground war, like afghanistan or iraq. the 2,600 american troops in iraq today largely serve on bases. and, yes, they face risks that come with service in any dangerous environment but they do not have a combat mission. they are focused on training iraqi forces including kurdish forces. as i've said before i'm convinced that the united states should not get dragged back into another prolonged ground war in the middle east. that's not in our national security interest and it's not necessary for us to defeat isil. local forces on the ground who know their countries best are best positioned to take the ground fight to isil and that's what they're doing. at the same time this resolution strikes the necessary balance by giving us the flexibility we need for unforeseen circumstances. for example, if we had actionable intelligence about a gathering of isil leaders, and our partners didn't have the capacity to get them i would be prepared to order our spe

they're growing in syria. how long is long term. >> stay on isis for a second and the expansion because it's happening in syria, may be happening in afghan stanl. heck a lot of experts say it's happening right here on our home front. if that's the case, alan, then countries like jordan who really want our support are being very specific about what they need. should we step it up and give them what they need so that we can fight this battle -- >> once we assess the need. in terms of what was said today what do you disagree with reinforcing homeland security to keep american people safe? transitioning to a global economy, striving the to a world without nuclear weapons. what do you disagree with? >> we warned the 20,000 foreign fighters have gone to syria and iraq to fight with isis. an increase of 5,000 just in the past three months. they're growing alan. the president can talk all he wants and let's hope that he laze out a strategy. >> nothing he does short of all-out war is going to be enough for the right wi

return from syria without our knowledge. without -- was only after his suicide attack that we learned of his activity. i think that incident really reinforced our understanding of the need to have better intelligence on what was going on in syria. >> how did we miss him? what has changed and what has changed? >> a better understanding of how these people move, working with our foreign partners in terms of sharing intelligence understanding intelligence that is coming out of the communications patterns that are going on. >> are there any concrete steps that you can describe, right now , that you have changed based on missing him and to make sure that it does not happen again? >> in terms of what the fbi has done. >> what have you done? >> we have extensively changed our methodology for tracking travel across the world to the u.s., and out of the u.s., to these sorts of locations. working with our intelligence partners across the world to better identify the linkages between potential americans and other -- >> is that informat

now, bosnia as dangerous as it was was not like syria. syria is anarchy. it's anarchy for people who know what they're doing and to see someone as innocent and inexperienced as her there was terribly frightening for me and my colleague and both of us who worked inside syria since the beginning and who know it know the ground know the geopolitical situation and know the region well we both said that girl is very worrying. she went off and she went into syria and that was the last we heard of her although we knew that she had been kidnapped and we had heard rumors she had been sold to isis. now, i don't want in any way to diminish what she was doing and that she was a wonderful person with a big heart. i do want to point out to those many people and there are many of them coming to beirut and amman and want to help and don't have clear intentions or work established already for them and how dangerous it is. this really brooke you would be surprised at how many people give up everything and just get on a flight and try to come to these places to help and in t

this isn't iraq or syria. it is libya.ves over parts of more and more countries, the new military authorization could give president obama and his successors the freedom to engage in more places and on the ground in a limited way. >> if we had intelligence about a gathering of isil leaders and our partners ss didn't have the capacity to get them i would be prepared to order our special forces to take action because i will not allow these terrorists to have a safe haven. >> reporter: there are concerns about overreach. >> a resolution that says we can go after isil any time, anywhere using any level of ground force as long as it's not enduring that pretty much is carp blanche. >> reporter: isis is going to libya. they claimed responsibility for an attack on a hotel in january that killed at least ten, including an american. to the peninsula in egypt where dozens were killed when isis launched suicide attacks on army and police positions. isis claims these photos show the explosions. on to yemen where isis has gained support

kid naps at least 70 people from christian settlements in syria. hi everyone you're watching al jazeera. i'm john siegenthaler in doha. also on the program. human rights watch says it's proofed that syria used barrel bombs. >>> hacking espionage and the threat of cyber-terrorism. in with the old and out with the new. there's a push to rebuild the past. at least 70 people from christian villages in syria have been kidnapped from fighters from the islamic state of iraq and the levant. i.s.i.l. raids houses along the river in hasaka province. where the syrian forces have launched a major offensive against the group. in neighboring iraq the army released this video after capturing the town of anbadi. as they return to the ein al asar air base. central library including 8,000 rare books manuscripts have been destroyed. zeina khodr reports. >> dozens of families fled their villages in the northeastern problemsprovince of hasake after they were overrun by the islamic state of iraq and the levant. >> they struck our houses, our churches, we had to leave we

the number is going to have to be larger in syria, you have to get syria right, if we don't isis will simply come across that border as we have success in iraq we wouldn't want that. >> schieffer: let me shift quickly to the german leader andrea merkel coming here this week. obviously there's a big split now between germany and the united states, we have people in the administration talking about, not committed to, but talking about maybe it's time to arm the ukrainians over there she says flatly we shouldn't do that. if there divide between germany and united states on this, tom? >> the president will talk about this tomorrow. one is that president putin and russians continue to press unimpeded way their goals in ukraine. russians are responsible for the violence, we have a war 5,000 people have been killed from the outset of this thing. putin has led russia in a direction that's essentially adversarial to the united states and the west, that's a big change. and third, we need to put more pressure on this situation that's what they will talk about. oil prices have put a lot of pressu

we do not have any relations with syria. no diplomatic relations.e do not have an embassy or official representatives. we discourage our people. james: the british authorities here at the consulate say they will continue to work with their turkish counterparts. it is hard to see what, if anything, the governments can realistically do. inside syria, the schoolgirls are out of reach. james reynolds, bbc news. katty: uncertain fate for the schoolgirls. the militant group is said to have abductive people, many of them syrian christians. the kidnappings took place after i.s. sees the villages. -- ceized the villages. i spoke with frederick at the atlantic council. what do you think is behind this of duction -- abduction? guest: they want to stay in the news and this is a relatively easy and cheap way to do it. the objective here is to stay in the news and continue the outreach to the disaffected of the world and continue to recruit. they are not all that particular about how outrageous any given act is. katty: the prospect of the kidnapped people is slim

and -- syria. here, it's in arabic. >> they say islamic state. they're not islamic. >> we've been reading these reports from people with sources inside of what they were calling their capital. there's fighting within isis, that there are separate groups that are splintering. they're fighting about how they flit up the money. do you have these reports? are any of these credible? >> we get these every now and then. we do think that there are these things that are happening all the time. fractionalization over money or stupid allegations among them. again, this is not enough. we all have to continue to take this seriously and to make sure that they are defeated and they are vanishing. unless we do this they will continue to grow and they will continue to impose danger on all of us. >> what does jordan need from the united states that it's not getting? >> i think jordan and other countries will need more cooperation. the level of cooperation and the level of partnership between us and the united states

the concern is in syria, the lack of our footprint on our ground in syria, that the data bases won't have the information we need. it is not the lack of process, it is the lack of information. >> and is there ways that you could suggest we go about trying to get this information? >> i just don't think you can go and get it. you are talking about a country that is a failed state. it does not have any infrastructure so to speak so all of the data sets, the police, the intel services that you would go and seek that exist don't exist. >> and that raises grave concern as being able to do proper background checks of the individuals coming into the country. >> yes. >> all right. now, mr. taylor, thank you for your testimony as well. and as a member -- as chairman of the subcommittee on transportation and i look forward to working together for the mutual benefit of everybody. and looking at your written transmission and so i can better understand the foreign fighter issue. one of the things that you mentioned was that the secretary johnson has ordered or is conducting an immediate short-term

today, more syria than iraq. like i said. it's an ongoing effort. >> new to me is jordanian pilots and aircraft have operated over iraq. to me that's new information. >> no, no. we're doing all we can to target isis. isis has -- or daish has remeeched a physical border. they're in iraq and syria, so therefore you have to target them wherever you are. >> you said you're doing the same operations as before. it would be long to classify this as an escalation. this is a continuation. >> this is a continuation but more intensively. we said after the brutal barbaric cold-blooded murder of our brave fighter muath al kaseasbeh, we're going to up it and pursue them wherever they are, and we're doing that. >> united states military said this campaign is not possible without ground forces. would jordan be interested in sending ground forces? >> we're not going to divulge any military plans we have or strategy. suffice it to say we're at the forefront of this fight against terrorism and extremism. by the way this is not new. we were targ