for the first time hezbollah goes to syria, spends years in syria. and not only they do not come back with victory they scom back with a lot of dead bodies and defeat. aleppo is the recent example which is a big blow for hezbollah and the shiite community in lebanon. hezbollah is no longer the defecter because their defeat, even though they don't call it defeat, of course it was never mentioned they were defeated. it's -- t basically, a setback. of course they send 3,000 soldiers and now they're planning to get back aleppo. it will be back and forth but it is not the divine victory they're used to. hezbollah has become a regional shiite militia no longer a resistance force. this has led to the isolation of the shiite community. for the first time two years ago described hezbollah as the shy united states faction. so not only they became a regional militia. they're also now a shiite army. and this posed a lot of -- because of the rhetoric, the shy yeet community now is isolated. if you -- it's almost impossible for shiite to get hired by a sunni-owned

ini mean, that has happened syria under siege. according to the united nation, there are 800,000 -- 850,000 people under siege by their own .overnment in many areas aleppo now, which became under a siege, you have 300,000 peoeopl, among them 85,000 children. they are under siege. i visited an orphanage that is also underground for protection. the children over there had to wait for the doctors coming from chicago. three physicians came from chicago. during that play, they were talking about they were scared that they will have to eat grass and tree leaves the same with the children elsewhere have done stop in one city, we had children who died because of starvation. their fear became a reality. we have this whole area, 300,000 people in aleppo under complete siege. juan: you called for the international community to provide some kind of safe passage for medical personnel and for victims of the bombing. how would that work in practice, given as you mentioned come all that haveious groups different control of different areas of a ci

in syria, the united states supports syria justice and accountability center. one of the premier syrian-led institutions heading this -- leading this documentation effort, sjac works with partners and its team on the ground to collect documentation related to the conflict, including interviews with former detainees that document torture and human detention condition and works directly with survivors of sexual and gender-based violence. another project provides support for the identification, protection, and excavation of mass graves. by collecting information about these sites, we reduce the chances of accidental or purposeful damage to them and provide important forensic information to hold daesh accountable, especially as the government of iraq and its partners continue to liberate territory from daesh. in addition, we have started to use satellite imagery to look for mass graves behind daesh front lines in syria and iraq. the delegations from abroad who are participating in the conference have photos of some of these satellite pictures in your pacts. seventh

those who tarnish the image of syria and foreign media. so you have the crimes against humanity that then follow her in the course of the implementation of this repressive but not necessarily criminal plan and talk about command control responsibility but international criminal into account the highest level perpetrators are present at the scene of the crime that they are responsible for the systematic and widespread atrocities perpetrated by their subordinates. the last line of the targeting policy in the crisis instruction instructeinstructe d mid-level security agents to supply to that of the national security bureau list of names who appeared resolute or an enthusiastic in performing duties and said they had to get results. what you find when you interview thousands of detainees who have survived by the u.n. commission of inquiry's and hundreds interviewed by the seashell. i focus for narrative purposes on one who suffered the testimony and also to the cesar files which you will hear more about good from hospital six to one where he wa

syria is already t there.. why mamake it worth? amy: the united states is backing a turkish military incursion into syria that turkey says is targeting isis-held areas along the border. but turkey says s it's also concerned abouout syrian kurdidh militias at the e border. these mililitias are backed by e united states. wewe'll look at the conflict wih professor and columnist vijay prashad, author of the new book, "the death of the nation and the future of the arab revolution." we will also speak with him about the u.s. presidential election. understand both trump and clinton are going to be very, very harmful for the rest of the planet. i mean, if this is supposed to be the superpower that governs and manages the world, and of the leader of the superpower is going to be as crazy as trump or with someone is dangerous on record a as hillary clinton, i m afraid people in the rest of the planet have very little to look forward to. amy: and celebrated british actress, thompson has just returned from a trip to the arctic aboard the green

sunnis who feel angry and outraged by what is happening in iraq and syria. sunn sunnis who are fed up with the brutal attacks in syria and the sectarian dealings in iraq and feels isis is their protector. what do they say? we are your protector. we are your defender. we have the vanguard of the sunni community. yes, there is a small, tiny but critical community that subscribes to the idea that islam has come by the swored and will extend and survive by the sword. this is a tiny community but it is an important and critical community that has allowed isis to do as well as it has in the past two years. >> and that brings us very logically to the whole subject of sectarianism. of course, part of this appeal of the isis' agenda and to declare who is is a muslim and who isn't. for all of the reasons you pointed out earlier the reason this had such resonance in a country like iraq is because there was a sectarian government. there was the maliki government that you write extensively and eloquently in the book and in great detail of how the maliki government actual

the story that is not being told in the media -- i mean, when people know about syria or hear about syria, they think it is something related to isis or that something that is collocated, but what is happening is civilians are suffering every day. children are being mutilated and killed with barrel bombs and air missile bombs. hospitals and schools are targeted, markets are targeted. an old sites like the city of aleppo are being destroyed. this is the tragedy we are living in. we have half a million people killed so far, half the population displaced. so far we do not have a light at the end of the tunnel. juan: you mentioned barrel bombs. what exactly are those and who is dropping them? >> barrel bombs are an invention of the syrian regime. it is a very cheap way to manufacture mass destruction. i have seen it with my eyes in the victims a barrel bombs in my several missions to syria, especially to the city of aleppo. these are barrel am a big barrels stuffed with tnt and shrapnel. they come in all kinds of sizes and shapes. there flown from helicopters on urban areas come on hospitals,

to discuss the fighting in syria. kirby says: "we really believe it's important to get beyond temporary and localized ceasefires." kirby says: "we're in a set of serious discussions right now with russian aleppo specifically but also about trying to get these proposals in place for a nationwide cessation of hostilities that can actually be enforced." also thursday, britain's sky news broadcast images from inside iran... showing graves of iranians reportedly killed while fighting isis in syria. (on cam) analysts say sky's access to the graves in an iranian national cemetery show a new willingness by iran to discuss their involvement in syria...and support bashar assad. in washington, rich edson, fox news. the u-n says right now two million people in the syrian city of aleppo lack access to clean water ... creating a risk of disease. the justice department is saying no to private prisons. it says a recent audit found private facilities have more safety and security problems than ones run by the government. as of decembe

who has the upper hand in northern syria? guest: in northern syria, and appears to be the syrian kurds back by the united states and special forces. it is believed from britain as well, working with syrian kurds and it has been very effective cooperation. they've taken control of hundreds of kilometers of territory that runs along turkey's border and this is causing great alarm because it sees a more powerful force developing on it border which will create a kurdish state that could inside similar demands. anchor: thank you so much. the nigerian military claims it has killed the leader of the jihadist group, boko haram, which has been terrorizing north of the country for seven years. there's still no confirmation of his death and it is not the first time it has been announced, so there is some skepticism. it's comes as u.s. secretary of state john kerry needs the nigerian president to discuss what to do about boko haram. reporter: a huge announcement from the nigerian army. this man, the boko haram leader fatally wounded in a

with respect to syria. including efforts by syrian society and international organizations to gather evidence and help eventually build a case to assist many of these efforts we've heard about to prosecute responsible parties whether they are on the government or the opposition side even though most attacks were directed it seems by the government. we support these efforts but also not just those pertaining to abuse of the detainees, sexual violence, and by the way a larger amount of sexual related cases have actually been traded by the regime against those who they deem to be sympathizing with the families of the opposition. it is not just a cell -- it is il, it is a much bigger darker picture thanks and prior to the files we're been able to get out of syria that really painted a more systematic targeting by the syrian regime. are these standing up of the joint investigators that is currently still reviewing evidence and will be publishing hopefully end making public its report sometime in september regard

and syria, so that angst adds to the complexity in the air over syria at this moment. and when we're talking about an escalation, well, there certainly was one on the regime of al assad because this is the first time they have staged bombardments of kurdish positions inside of syria. emma: philip in washington, thank you very much indeed. sculptures from across syria have come together to re-create the artifacts deployed in the ancient city of pal mara. many of the city's culture riches were demolished. now, artists have built more than 40 replicas a sign, they say, hope for the future should not be lost. it will be on a tour of the cities across syria. conservative politicians in germany are proposing a partial ban on the full face veil. the interior minister said the burqa which cover everything but a woman's eyes are not part of our open society. the planned restrictions could be put in place in schools, courts and while driving. the move is part of a wide drive to increase security after the face of terror attacks in germany. >> east berlin, it's home to people fro

that may be the most we can hope for with syria.hink it will take a year or two even to get to that point because we will have to help strengthen the moderate insurgents more before that kind of negotiated outcome is possible. carl up next we have calling from landfill, pennsylvania on our republican line. good morning, carl. caller: hello. what is the whole ideology really of the kurds, and what are they fighting for? what would be the end game that would favor what they want? guest: great question, carl. well, the kurds -- most people who talk with the kurds really know the kurds would say their real endgame, the real dream is isurdish state that carved out of pieces of iraq, syria, turkey, and perhaps even iran. thos are the four countries where they have 3 million the sixth million people. the entire kurdish population is around 20 million people. be todream would have their own country that unifies these groups. realistically, none of those four countries are interested in giving up the territory to this would be kurdish nation

to go into syria. they were afraid russia would respond militarily. mr. misztal: let's just talk in more detail about exactly what turkey is doing in right now and why we think that is -- nick, do you want to talk about the geographical basics of what is going on? mr. danforth: we also have a handy reference map to look at while we discussed this because it gets remarkably detailed remarkably quickly. there has been ongoing tension between the united states and turkey over what the main objectives are in syria, both the united states and turkey wanted assad to be gone. i think the united states maybe a lot more quickly, turkey again gradually over the past year really came to terms with the fact that assad was going to stay into power. one thing they do agree on was generally appointing anti-assad --bles in and around rebels in and around aleppo. some disagreement about who those would be. turkey really favored al nusra, who washington was deeply uncomfortable with. that was one of the parts where u.s.

to isis and iraq and syria. your very own national comment -- counterterrorism operation all ofnd that despite the decisive defeat of the coalition has dealt isis on the battlefield, they have expanded toir threat worldwide include as many as 18 operational bases. in the six years you have been feeling of there any personal disappointment there is not been more progress? and any discussions you've had with the u.s. military and intelligence agencies, have you come up with any new ideas on how to deal or defeat isis. every time there's a terrorist attack, i feel disappointment. because i would like to prevent all of them. that is true not just when the tax and europe or the united intes -- the attacks are europe or the united states. when you read stories about attacks in lebanon or iraq or or distant parts of the world that don't get as much attention, they get my ticket. because that is somebody's kid and that is somebody's mom and that the somebody who was just going about his business. and mindlessly, sensele

aleppo, syria's second city, has been at war since he was born. now it is the focus of intense fighting. a cease-fire for to allow aid to reach millions trapped by violence. a u.n. envoy known for his ncve has had enough. >> not one single convoy has reached any of the humanitarian besieged areas. within hours, russia's offer 48-hour truce in aleppo. , >> for the americans, they, too, should be saying yes to a humanitarian pause for aleppo for 48 hours. then i think omran's image would help at least to stop the carnage for the time being in aleppo. lyse: omran was treated last night by this doctor who tells us he has seen much worse. >> we need to tell the world about these thousands of stories , maybe more worse than that of omran. lyse: this is what omran's neighborhood looks like now. his friends recount in detail what happened last night. "i was close by," this little boy says. "i saw a flash. he was scared. we saw body parts, people being pulled out." later he vows, "we are staying in aleppo, we're not going to leave." today omran's plight sy

the idea that russia is on board in syria. we have talked about these tension points, where they see terrorists we see moderate syrian opposition. and they are daesh terrorist organizations. beyond that we have a difference thatinion and we believe moderate syrian opposition that notbought into the process be subjected to ongoing airstrikes and attacks by the regime. >> a quick follow up on the potential for talks and working together. he basically said we can conceivably support an armed opposition for the foreseeable future. incentivize the russians to come along. i have not seen the interview. i'm not trying to parse your words. my guess is he said something weng the line of what including the secretary have said before which is that there is no military solution but the alternative to a diplomatic solution which we believe is the best way forward or political solution could mean full-scale war and that means all the members of -- not all the members but various members of -- supporting various factions of the civil war the

this happens all over syria.e make it clear to all that we don't make any official links with any political or military a group in syria. >> reporter: do you have any agreements to work with isis to be able to work in those areas? >> ( translated ): we go and say we'll offer our services. if you allow us to do so, fine. if you don't, off we go. >> reporter: has any other grou> this large been able to unify in rebel-held syria? >> ( translated ): all over syria, there is no other organization that offers these services and works under one management other than the syrian civil defense.er >> reporter: their tenacious leader has gone all over the world, begging for an end to the violence. last year an impassioned speech at the united nations. this year nominated for the nobel peace prize. all to no avail. >> ( translated ): in all my speeches, i was delivering a message to the people, to be int solidarity with us, i wasn't asking politicians to do that. politicians aren't concerned about human suffering. they don't

that's over 400 films so far of the syria we never see. the films document the absurdity of everyday life in wartime, the dramas and comedies that the media never shows. we're all against the regime. >> so why are they doing this to each other? >>in the film douma tartous, footage of two different massacres is cut together. one is an attack carried out by soldiers loyal to bashir al assad, the other by isis. the pictures are the same. it's the kind of footage we see daily in the media. abounaddara calls it war porn. >> what you see in the news internationally is a catastrophe. a grave crime is being commited against humanity and it's being shown live on television in real time. these images humiliate the people in syria. all you see is wounded, mutilated or dead people. but in reality, people there are trying to get on with their lives, they're trying to put up resistance and retain their dignity. >> pictures are the collective's weapon of choice. the films they make portray all sides of everyday life in syria -- war, torture and hunger, a

we are seeing significant progress both in iraq and syria. the syrian democratic forces and the syrian arab coalition element of that seized the town of manbij which was a significant line of communication between raqqa, the self-proclaimed capital of the so-called caliphate of -- that isis holds, and the rest of the world. so that was a significant victory for the syrian democratic forces, and we are continuing to see progress like that in both iraq and syria. >> we're seeing some of that progress there on the ground. we also know that tens of thousands of isis fighters have been killed by coalition forces. but we have also seen that as isis there on the battlefield maybe struggles a little bit, is losing territory, we've seen them branch out. for instance, the airport attack in istanbul. what do you do to try to stop just the movement really of the threat from where you are to other soft targets abroad? >> well, clearly it is a significant problem and it is a global problem. we know that isis wants to conduct these attacks in our home towns

i am from syria. our house was struck by a missile in my body burned so we had to flee syria. >> the doctors in syria could not help us. they advised us to go to germany sushi can get better treatment. the camp is already overcrowded. more than 10,000 migrants are sheltered on five greek islands with a capacity for around 7000. greece now plans to build seven new facilities on the mainland to transfer migrants from other sites. >> the number of arrivals in greece doubled since the start of summer. this is particularly worrying because we see already overstretched facilities stretched to a breaking point on the islands. reporter: the amount of migrants arriving has begun to drop after the deal between turkey and the e.u. came into force in april. but there has been an upturn in the past few weeks. political turmoil in turkey, following july's attempted coup, could explain increasing numbers. germany's interior minister has cannot in favor of vetially banning islamic il. it is part of the debate that co

on the ground in syria and iraq, isil continues to lose territory. tragically, however, we have seen isil has the ability to we've seen terrible bombings in iraq, jordan, lebanon, saudi arabia, yemen and afghanistan. attacks on istanbul airport, a restaurant in bangladesh, bastille day celebrations at a church in france and a music festival in germany. in fact, the decline of isil in syria and iraq appears to be causing it to shift to tactics we've seen before. an even greater encouraging high-profile terrorist attacks, including in the united states. as always, our military diplomatic intelligence, homeland security and law enforcement professionals are working around the clock with other countries and with communities here at home to share information and prevent such attacks. over the years, they prevented many, but as we've seen, it is still very difficult to detect and prevent lone actors or small cells of terrorists who are determined to kill the innocent today, we are going to keep going after isil aggressively across every front of this campa

in syria, isil lost at can you be wani, and several other areas. isil lost tertroy across vast stretches of the border with turkey, almost all major transit in both iraq and syria, isil has not been able to reclaim any significant territory that they have lost. so i want to row pete, isil has not had a major successful offensive operation in syria or iraq in a full rather. even isil's leaders know they're going to keep losing. their message to followers, increasingly acknowledging they may lose mosul and raqqa, and isil is right. driving them out dill they do. in other words, isil turns out not to be invincibility. they are in fact inevitably going to be defeated. we do recognize at the same time that the situation is complex and this cannot be solved by military force alone. that's why last month the united states and countries around the world pledged more than $2 billion in new funds to help iraqis stablingize and rebuild their communities. that's why we're working with campaign to liberate mosul is matched with humanitarian and political effort

his ship visits, keeping his role in syria. his ability to influence situations of the middle east here and we can go back to his actions in the fall when he used military force the layer the -- to level the playing field for diplomaticpen the channel to see if we can move this process ahead. this plays into that game. laura: it is a chess game. thank you very much. senators susan collins added her name to those who will not be voting for donald trump. she says she decided because of her fear that mr. trump would make the world more dangerous than it is. security national experts who served in the republican administration saying they would not vote for trump either. gavin hewitt reports. reporter: donald trump's supporters capturing their candidate on their phones. the reality is that he is facing unprecedented attacks from within his own party. a moderate republican senator said she was dismayed by his constant stream of cruel comments. and 50 former national security officials, some of them heavyweight figures, signed a lett

they say, look he's back from syria, he's fighting for islam. it is a kind of hero worship. >> mohammed was able to hide out with friends for a few months. he even went to pray regularly in his old mosque. his friend was incredulous. >> i don't want him here. he's sick, he even tried to get a kalashnikov here. i don't know if he was planning an attack. but if you put two and two together. i called the police but they just said, if you see him, contact us. i didn't believe it. i don't know what they were thinking. >> mohammed returned to syria in the fall of 2015. now his old friend fears he'll return to germany this summer. so, is anything being done to stop him? we head to the office of the federal prosecutor to find out. officials there don't want to comment on specific cases. they say it could hamper their investigations. but they assure us that they monitor such returns closely and are prepared for the worst-case scenario. >> anyone can carry out a terrorist attack, whether they're self-radicalised or returning from syria. they're dangerous

also coming up, and other escalation in syria's war as turkey sends in tanks. turkish forces have crossed into northern syria to eject islamic state fighters and are targeting kurdish forces telling them to retreat or face the consequences. i'm terry margin. good to have you with us. scenes of devastation in central italy after a strong earthquake hit the region overnight. the official death toll is 120 and is expected to rise. that epicenter was just south of georgia. the villages in the southeast were particularly hard hit. rescue workers are on site, aching people out of collapsed buildings. reporter: the view from the air shows the extent of the destruction caused by the quake. this is what is left of the centuries old town northeast of rome. it was one of three municipalities all but destroyed when the 6.2 magnitude quake struck in the bill of the night. most residents were sleeping in their beds. she was eventually rescued, but her daughter did not survive the collapse. rescue workers continue to race against time to free those trapped beneath the rubble.

in syria in the northeastern part of syria absorbed millions of refugees. where asked the children they want to go, many say home. -- the second policy would be that no jihadists would come. the arab countries themselves have a lot to teach us on this issue. host: first call, raymond, dayton, ohio. hi, raymond. caller: hi. i spent 18 months in turkey back when president kennedy was killed. and i couldn't have enjoyed it anymore. they were wonderful people. carter had the hostages. in and he andes gets it all resolved in 24 hours. what goes on behind the stores, it is like cheney in mr. trump, they never served. i want people who have served in our military. i can't stand this. reagan never served. granted mr. obama mr. clinton did not serve. it is try to end this. there should be some kind of love that requires a have served. they don't have a clue, the stuff they come up with. mr. trump, his comments about our military, our heroes, it's unbelievable, unbelievable that anyone would consider this man for president. stand, i'm sorry. thank you, sir. host: tha

and syria. -- and angs in iraq few hundred in syria. but bombings in iraq have shown the threat remains high. pres. obama: it is difficult to detect lone actors or small cells of terrorists who are determined to kill the innocent and are willing to die or that is why we are going to keep going after isil aggressively. martin: but as the world grapples with that conundrum, america seeks to use its military power to deny the i.s. group a safe haven. safety concerns have prompted the cancellation of one of europe's largest flea markets. that takes place in the north of france. it was scheduled for early september, one of the most famous events in france and beyond its borders. the ongoing terror threat has forced its cancellation. or than 2 million visitors were expected to walk the city streets for the event. this is a heartbreaking decision for me to take, even a frightening one. it is very difficult. i think we have to suspend the 2016. it is clear that we cannot ensure optimal safety, and i want to be clear that after all the decisions

i know the turks are in syria. do you want them to go west as opposed to heading south, and as , they want the kurds to move across. just walk us through what you would like to see? >> what we have seen with the turkish operation along the border, i think it's been very helpful to us and they are in the exact right thing that we need for the coalition and we need for the fight against isil. what i see moving forward is making sure that we keep all of our partners and all of our forces focused on isolate this point. i think think we have good momentum going against isil anything we need we need to continue to emphasize that aspect of it. we are very much in favor of what the turks are doing against isil. >> do you want them to move west? what if they move south for the kurds are? do you see that as problematic? >> will they as vice president bidens that lose support? >> we have made it clear that our support is support to all parties is contingent upon the focus on isil. that will be how we continue to do this. what

there are 4 million refugees outside of syria, living primarily in jordan and lebanon and turkey.and so there's an enormous need for international organizations like care and the larger global community to help supply support for shelter, for food, for education, the most basic necessities, to allow people to continue and to start to rebuild their lives. >> one of the things i remember when i was in kosovo with care in 1999 and 2001 were huge refugee camps with thousands of people in them. and they were clean, and they were well-organized, and it was a great structure for people who had no place to go. but that is completely different now with this group of refugees. the model is changing. >> the model is changing. there still are camps, and care is active in supporting those camps, but 80% of the refugees are actually living outside of the camps. they're living in local communities. and you can imagine the responsibility that this brings to a country like jordan, where 1 out of every 10 people living in jordan now is a refugee. in lebanon, it's one out of every four. so it would

we're going to visit some refugees from syria.ndation reportedly financed the construction of new houses in the village of ishkhanadzor for armenians whose families once fled to syria to escape turkish genocide and who have now fled the syrian civil war. they've been offered a house and low rent on fields. the agricultural co-op provides farm equipment. waik, from lebanon, and george, from aleppo in syria, want to start a new life here, waik's son interprets. they both volunteered for the nagorno-karabakh defense army and fought against the azeris. arsen, the mayor, is happy to see newcomers, like radsh, who lost his farm and threshing machine in syria and now has to start all over. >> yes, many peope are coming now. >> they've fled the war in syria for an embattled conflict zone in the caucasus. here, at the mayor's house, they say fighting for their own land gives them an edge over invaders. all l l ree say they had relatis who were victims of the armenian genocide. do they believe in a peaceful solution to the conflict with the

what's the solution to syria?ad people stumble onto this show four years, the smartest thinkers on foreign policy in the world and they have all said the same thing, it's hard. almost like it's too hard. we can't do anything with syria. we've seen what's happened to syria, disintegration, hundreds of thousands that died. chaos in middle east, chaos across europe now. what's the solution if hillary clinton is next president of the united states, what's the solution? >> i don't think there is a solution if you mean bringing back a normal country where you have central government in charge of all the territory. i think you're more looking at a series of parts, canton to use old idea make it safer in parts of syria so people can stay there or return there. i don't think we can remake syria as a normal country with borders and government controlled territory. >> so what can we do to bring some stability back to the region so at least some refugees can return to syria? >> i'd go back to the balkans model again. that'sss

we continue to intensify efforts against al qaeda in syria. no matter what name it calls itself it cannot be allowed to maintain a safe haven to train and plot attacks. i do want to note the broader progress that has been made in this campaign so far. two years ago, isil was racing across iraq to baghdad itself, and to many, looked invincible. isil has lost at tikrit and now falluja. in syria, they have lost in numerous locations, losing territory across vast stretches of the border with turkey and major transit routes. isil has not been able to reclaim any significant territory they have lost. i want to repeat, isil has not had a major successful offensive operation in syria or iraq in a year. even isil's leaders know they will be losing. they are increasingly acknowledging they may lose key cities. they are right. they will lose them. we will keep hitting them, pushing them back, and driving them out until they do. in other words, isil turns out not to be invincible. they will inevitably be defeated. we do recognize that the same time that t

syria, iraq, gaddafi in libya. so really what those strong individuals, along with looking out for their own power, was they were trying to create a national identity in places that did not have a strong want to begin with. is saddam hussein the way he is because iraq is the way it is, or is iraq the way it is because of the way saddam hussein is? scott: so there was the first invasion in 2003, what takes their place? you have rubberstamped parliaments in places. what filled the void was a reversion to tribal allegiance, clan allegiance, sectarian allegiance. and when the americans went into iraq, they had no clue what they were walking into. that there would be this withering out along these lines. charlie: did they even raise the question? scott: that is a good question. people that knew something about iraq at the time, i think they raised the issue, and they were brush to the side. they were considered unpatriotic for suggesting this to be anything other than a cakewalk. we would be greeted as liberators. let's

of syria. what more can you tell us about those efforts? and if we have an indication of a time line of how long those troops could be inside this other country? >> reporter: we don't know the number of turkish troops inside of syria. we've seen the same as everyone else has kraucrossing over. the prime minister said they will continue to serve that country until the threat of security is gone. that's indefinite and that is not what turkey said they're embarking upon. but they face not just the threat of isis as many do, many say the broader goal which is vehemently being denied is pushing the turkish kurds inside of there. the ppk and the ykg aligned there. focused on the town but deeply controversial because it was taken back backed by the united states, turkish troops focused on that deeply contentious in the retaking by turkish troops. george. >> nick paton walsh live in turkey. nick, thank you for the reporting. we'll stay in touch with you. >>> iraq's big goal is to liberate the city of m

the euphrates river bisects syria. the u.s. has told the kurds, get back in that area, we'll support you -- >> so basically far enough from the turkish border? that's the intention there? >> exactly, whereas the turks are moving south to take the city of mambidge where the separatists with turkish backing were driving isis out of. >> the u.s. has depended on these brave kurdish forces there to push back isis. how are they reacting, those kurdish forces, to the u.s. telling them, thanks for being the tip of the spear against isis, but by the way, turkey, our nato ally, is going to come after you on the other side? >> it depends on which kurdish group you are. to make it more complicated, there are some kurdish groups actually working with turkey on the other side of the river. what the u.s. has to do is to try to keep all the different sides separate. but offer the kurdish forces that they're working with, especially the group called the ypg, enough to stay with the coalition and help them take raka away from isis. they also hav

our focus right now is the syria protect-- project. and whether or not this move really changes anything in terms of the group's larger significants, one can say one thing, this say move that is playing well on the ground in syria and it's playing well also with a lot of the allies of the rebels whether it be in turkey or qatar or saudi arabia. >> all the islamic jihadist groups are sync, are they not? or most of them. >> they are. the sunni jihadist islamist groups that we talk about, whether it is ales into ra or whether you are talking more about the islamic group al-sham, they have been the focus of so much of the receipt kick and discussion and of course isis, i don't even include them because they are operating in a separate part of the country and they don't have the support of any of the syrian people or the other rebel groups. but i do think it's important to also remember that there are extremist groups working very closely with bashar al-assad to name one, of course, hezbollah which is designated a terrorist organization. th

well ona move playing the ground in syria and playing well also with a lot of the allies of syria.ether in turkey or qatar or saudi arabia. charlie: all the jihadist groups are sunni, are they not? clarissa: they are. they have beens, the focus of so much of the rhetoric and discussion. isis, i don't even include them because they are operating in a separate art of the country and they did not have support of the syrian people or rebel groups. but there are extremist groups working very closely with assad. to name one, hezbollah which is designated a terrorist organization. iraqi militias. afghan militias. iranian forces. there are a number of extremists operating on both sides. charlie: thank you so much for joining us and your parents before the united nations security council. thank you. clarissa: thank you so much, charlie. ♪ charlie: "florence foster jenkins" is the new film from director stephen frears. meryl streep stars as a new york heiress whose terrible voice does not stop her from becoming an opera singer. here is the trailer. >> i am so excited. we are going to make a