always be trusted why is that i think first of all we have to establish who really is this the syrian observatory for human rights. in our investigation and we didn't really uncover any particular reason to doubt the genuine observatory's figures. but there is another group led by this. sort of very as figures a slightly higher than the original interest groups the syrian observatory for human rights led program. makes a point to be they say you know they're independent they're human rights and so they were called all deaths whether they're soldiers syrian soldiers in order to the regime or the defectors or their protesters where as. now as our eads group claims they did as well but their figures for the number of. military day were much much lower. this seems to be you know a certain agenda there and behind it all seems to me basically that although both sides deny differences in in military intervention essentially in political differences there is different trends in the syrian opposition mainly between people who support outside intervention and the protestors who don't so you've got groups l

and the original syrian observatory for human rights group is against that that it was close and said we don't support a no fly zone they said that to me and sounds of least these two sorry these two groups they both seemed to other they denied direct links to different factions of the opposition they seemed their position seems to line up why hasn't this for internal reform within the syrian opposition been more widely reported he said it's damaging for the potentially damaging for the original syrian observatory for human rights if they get into a slanging match about or with just two sides fighting each other sort of thing and they would they i mean they didn't want to speak about as i read something the original syrian observatory group because of that last one fact another fact is just embarrassing for example for the b.b.c. to say we didn't properly track this guy and we put him on n.b.c. news channel as a spokesperson for the syrian observatory which has become a really highly quoted source in the news can we still trust that they think this is a good question and i think i thi

and the original syrian observatory for human rights group is against that that there was a split and said we don't support a no fly zone they said that i mean some of the least these two sorry these two groups they both seemed to call it a night direct links to different factions of the opposition they seem their position seems to line up why doesn't this from internal referral in the syrian opposition and even more widely reported do you think it's damaging for the potentially damaging for the original syrian observatory for human rights if they get into a slanging match about well with just two sides fighting each other sort of thing and they will they i mean they don't want to make a very very to me the original syrian observatory group because of that so that's one factor another factor is just embarrassing for example for the b.b.c. to say robin probably check this guy and we put him on anything more news channel as a spokesperson for the syrian observatory which has become a really highly quoted source in the news can we still trust that they think there is a good question and

and the original syrian observatory for human rights group is against that there's a risk listen they said we don't support know that i was there and they said that so me and sort of these to these two sides these two groups they both seemed to although they denied direct links to different factions of the opposition they seemed their position seems to line up why hasn't this for internal reform within the syrian opposition been more widely reported do you think it's damaging for the potentially damaging for the original syrian observatory for human rights if they get into a slanging match about always just two sides fighting each other sort of thing and they would they i mean they don't want to sneak around there it's i mean the original syrian observatory group because of that so that's one factor another factor is just embarrassing for example for the b.b.c. to say well we didn't properly check this guy and we've put in one b.b.c. news channel as a spokesperson for the syrian observatory which has become a really highly quotes a. source in the news can we still trust that they thin

using words like genocide from the syrian observatory. group emphasized to me that they're against a no fly zone and that's part of it doesn't seem to be picked up by the media in general that although they quote their figures a lot they don't quote the fact that well they said explicitly to me you know i haven't kakkar said to me where we're against a no fly zone we don't want to war in this country we want we just want democracy. so again that the media seems to be quite selective of the parts that they pick. and they did does i suppose the reality of. bloodshed on the ground does does play into it into what's going on in the u.s. and to a certain extent but i think there's greater political forces at play here how damaging could a foreign intervention be in syria any outside military intervention in syria would be. very much in it for the worse the kurds. the regional confrontation. and it could even increase support for the regime within the country we saw you see what happens in the case of iran's government as well as opposition. fr

now one of the most quoted sources for those casualty figures is the syrian observatory for human rights but you've recently found out information that suggests it can't necessarily always be trusted why is that i think first of all you have to establish who really is this is the syrian observatory for human rights . in our investigation we didn't really uncover any particular reason to doubt the genuine abilities figures. but there is another group led by this man with a very as figures a slightly higher than the original observatories groups the syrian observatory for human rights led by romeo. makes a point to be they say you know they're independent right and that they were called all deaths whether they're soldiers syrian soldiers loyal to the regime or the defectors or their protesters where as. now as arabs group printed as well but their figures for the number of. military did a much much lower so this seems to be you know a certain agenda there behind it all seems to me basically. although both sides deny differences in in military intervention essentially in political differenc

this man was a very his figures are slightly higher than the original observatory's groups the syrian observatory for human rights. makes a point to be they say you know they're independent their human rights group and. they record all deaths whether they're soldiers syrian soldiers loyal to the regime or the defectors or their protesters where as. now as i read group printed as well but their figures for the number of. military dead are much much lower. there seems to be you know a certain agenda there behind it all seems to me basically. although both sides deny differences in in military intervention essentially in political differences there is different trends in the syrian opposition mainly between people who support outside intervention and the protestors who don't so you've got groups like the syrian national council which are now openly in favor of a no fly zone which to me seems ridiculous because you know there isn't any even claimed that i know of the syrian regime for all its many crimes there's no claims that it's bombed people so no fly zone just seems a political pretext to invade

the syrian observatory for human rights syrian observatory for human rights the syrian observatory for human rights it's one of the most widely quoted sources of syrian casualty figures but is not always telling the truth and ownership the syrian observatory for human rights is left several media outlets quoting false information as two rivals fight the same name the original group was hijacked by opposition activists to posting military deaths alongside civilian ones both sites claim they're the official observatory this is the original site in arabic with an english version on facebook and this is the fake site launched in the center and mostly in english several foreign news outlets have assume they are one and the same thing quoting the fake sites casualty figures the consequence a very different perspective of the crisis the original sites latest figures show just over five thousand one hundred civilian deaths against almost two thousand military casualties the rival site claims well over six and a half thousand civilians have been killed and barely six hundred troops a difference

rights strategy for regime change doesn't work how annoyed western governments are how have got syrian observatory original observatory strictly opposes military intervention the man who hijacked it's name disagrees. used to translate at the real observatory he was fired after falsely claiming to be an official spokesman and using a live interview to call for a no fly zones since then he's launched a smear campaign against the original group claim. the impostors as are we and these figures have been quoted by the b.b.c. c.n.n. and a.b.c. australia the other groups say they tried to pass some political views so like calling for no fly zone for international intervention and we made it clear i sit on the server tree for human rights the original. is that we are i guess an intervention we are against a no fly zone all we need is to stop the but that is going on in syria as always and is group refused to speak on camera stating i cannot waste my time talking about this is the moment whilst people are dying in homes they're my priority right now he did refer us to another opposition group based in lond

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the syrian observatory for human rights syrian observatory for human rights the syrian observatory for human rights it's one of the most widely quoted sources of syrian casualty figures but it's not always telling the truth and ownership the syrian observatory for human rights is left several media outlets quoting the false information.