hasn't this for internal reform within the syrian opposition been more widely reported he said it's damaging for the potentially damaging for the original syrian observatory for human rights if they get into a slanging match about or with just two sides fighting each other sort of thing and they would they i mean they didn't want to speak about as i read something the original syrian observatory group because of that last one fact another fact is just embarrassing for example for the b.b.c. to say we didn't properly track this guy and we put him on n.b.c. news channel as a spokesperson for the syrian observatory which has become a really highly quoted source in the news can we still trust that they think this is a good question and i think i think it still needs to be looked into more i think it's very difficult that this this is racial in syria it's very very difficult to get reliable information from anyone. and the main reason for that is the fact that the regime has not allowed free access to journalists because of is the ongoing crime that is committed wish to seem to be. hopefully not but things do seem to be spiraling towards the scenario of survival i think while

syrian. for all its many crimes there's no claim that it's problems people so new for them just seem the political pretext and very to me . and the original syrian observatory for human rights group is against that there's a risk listen they said we don't support know that i was there and they said that so me and sort of these to these two sides these two groups they both seemed to although they denied direct links to different factions of the opposition they seemed their position seems to line up why hasn't this for internal reform within the syrian opposition been more widely reported do you think it's damaging for the potentially damaging for the original syrian observatory for human rights if they get into a slanging match about always just two sides fighting each other sort of thing and they would they i mean they don't want to sneak around there it's i mean the original syrian observatory group because of that so that's one factor another factor is just embarrassing for example for the b.b.c. to say well we didn't properly check this guy and we've put in one b.b.c. news channel as a spokesperson for the syrian observatory which has become a really highly quotes a. sou

open to the views of activists on the ground which is i mean essentially what was the syrian observatory for human rights that's where they get their information from these activists and i mean i witness is on the ground i think it's good for journalists to be open so that at the same time they need to check them so i think there is a tendency for. the media in this country in america to accept more uncritically the views of activists on the ground in the case of syria and also iran because it they're seen as anti western regimes whereas if it's in the case of things like palestine for example they far far far less regular for them to take the views of activists on the ground how willing has the foreign media would you say been its consumption of the figures published by the result group a lot of the mainstream news channels sort of were taken in by his area and he's appeared on the b.b.c. in either period on al jazeera english and c.n.n. and probably others. as a spokesperson for the observatory are. grabbing of the reference as he was never a spokesperson for them his kind of narrative which has become

the syrian observatory for human rights syrian observatory for human rights the syrian observatory for human rights it's one of the most widely quoted sources of syrian casualty figures but is not always telling the truth and ownership the syrian observatory for human rights is left several media outlets quoting false information as two rivals fight the same name the original group was hijacked by opposition activists to posting military deaths alongside civilian ones both sites claim they're the official observatory this is the original site in arabic with an english version on facebook and this is the fake site launched in the center and mostly in english several foreign news outlets have assume they are one and the same thing quoting the fake sites casualty figures the consequence a very different perspective of the crisis the original sites latest figures show just over five thousand one hundred civilian deaths against almost two thousand military casualties the rival site claims well over six and a half thousand civilians have been killed and barely six hundred troops a difference

syrian crisis acer thanks for speaking to r.t. now one of the most quoted sources for those casualty figures is the syrian observatory for human rights but you've recently found out information that suggests it can't necessarily always be trusted why is that i think first of all you have to establish who really is this is the syrian observatory for human rights . in our investigation we didn't really uncover any particular reason to doubt the genuine abilities figures. but there is another group led by this man with a very as figures a slightly higher than the original observatories groups the syrian observatory for human rights led by romeo. makes a point to be they say you know they're independent right and that they were called all deaths whether they're soldiers syrian soldiers loyal to the regime or the defectors or their protesters where as. now as arabs group printed as well but their figures for the number of. military did a much much lower so this seems to be you know a certain agenda there behind it all seems to me basically. although both sides deny differences in in military intervention essentially in political differenc

the syrian observatory for human rights. in our investigation we didn't really uncover any particular reason to doubt the genuine observatory's figures. but there is another group led by this man was a very his figures are slightly higher than the original observatory's groups the syrian observatory for human rights. makes a point to be they say you know they're independent they're human rights and. they record all deaths whether they're soldiers syrian soldiers loyal to the regime or the defectors or their protesters where as. now as arabs group claims that as well but their figures for the number of. military dead are much much lower. there seems to be you know a certain agenda there and behind it all seems to me basically. although both sides deny differences in in military intervention essentially in political differences there is different trends in the syrian opposition mainly between people who support outside intervention and the protestors who don't so you've got groups like the syrian national council which are now

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syrian regime for all its many crimes there's no claims that it's bombed people so no fly zone just seems a political pretext to invade to me rami abdelrahman and the original syrian observatory for human rights group is against that there's a split and they said we don't support a no fly zone they said that to me and so on so forth so these see these two sides these two groups they both. seemed to although they denied direct links to different factions of the opposition they seemed their position seems to line up how willing has the foreign media would you say been its consumption of the figures published by the zawi group a lot of the mainstream news channels were taken in by as area and he's appeared on the b.b.c. and he's appeared on zero english and c.n.n. and probably others. as a spokesperson for the observatory although he rarely have direct friends groups as he was never a spokes person for them his kind of narrative which has become increasingly shrill that he it plays into the narrative of a we need to do something we meaning you know the west or the british government or the american government or whatever we need to intervene we need to do something it plays into that kind of nar

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