. —— szeto. badly this has affected his members. — — szeto.as affected his members. —— szeto. what is affecting our chinese members is the product in the middle. schultz, blazers, products were some are made in china and some are made in offshore countries. in those instances, the american buyers are shifting production from china to offshore countries as quickly as they can. so are you seeing evidence of chinese companies, your members, for instance, closing down their factories on the mainland and moving jobs away? we are definitely hearing anecdotal stories that people are scaling down, and in certain cases closing down, factories. but these things are not hugely publicised. so there are no real figures to back that up. but we are all hearing those things are happening. that is notjust because of the trade war. starting from eight or ten years ago, china's labour costs and all the social costs became quite more expensive than neighbouring countries. so things have been migrating out of china and factory closure is not a new story. the trade