t. boone pickens. ickens plan only call for reducing dependence on foreign oil. >> well, it's really even narrower than that. i want to get off mideast oil. i want to get off opec oil. because i think it's a security issue for the country. but you know, it's exactly what the president said. when he got the nomination at denver in july of '08, on energy, he said in ten years, we will not import any oil from the mideast. and i cheered him for that when he said it. and that's the oil we have to get off of first. >> larry: okay. all right. mr. predictor, who has been right, take me ahead 20 years. it's 2030. how much dependence on oil from the middle east? >> according to what the leadership wants. >> larry: what do you think? >> i think we've got to go to our own resources. and we have resources to go to. >> larry: nothing from there then? >> i'll take out the opec first. the oil from canada and mexico is fine with me. but north america is okay. but i just as soon get rid of the rest of it. >> larry: natur

t. boone pickens' stock about -- talks about is for use in vehicles.here is a sense here that if we do this massive expansion of gas drilling that we will see some environmental contamination. that question is front and center in the ongoing epa study. host: in this article in wednesday's talks the "usa today." towards the end he writes this would be obama's best chance to enact anything close to a comprehensive energy legislation if the midterm elections fall into historic patterns. after president clinton failed to pass the health care bill in 1994, it took 16 years to get it done. if this does not pass and there are major gains in the house and senate on the republican side, could we see a 16 year gap between now and when they pass any sort of major energy legislation? guest: yes and no. but it depends the question is about energy or climate. energy bills come around under both parties every the years. it is not the end of energy legislation, i do not think. whether or not we will do anything that specifically mandates reductions in greenhouse gases