t. boone pickens has another agenda which is natural gas. because oil well runs dry what do they have? tural gas. t. boone pickens owns more natural gas rights than anybody in this country. is he trying to promote natural gas which is not clean which is also a fossil fuel. >> bill: is he a businessman, he wants to make money. >> that's right. >> bill: if he can sell natural gas and wind, is he going to do both. he told me and i believe him he put his money where his mouth is and they couldn't get the wind power to the urban areas. they couldn't do it. >> that's just not the case. it's absolutely not the case. >> bill: all right. >> but, you know, t. boone pickens is a were thatting man. is he a well spoken man, but the fact is that he has an agenda. it's not that hard to find. >> bill: do you think president obama is on your side? is he on your side? >> you know what? i think it's difficult because politicians tend to listen more to the lobbyists and the multinational corporations. >> bill: is he a sell out? you say the president is a sell out? you voted for him. >> i'm not saying -- yo

t. boone pickens free market fellow a business immediately you know better than the use washington post to think fellow well. we've had to and probably three at this point recession's during the time rick perry is being governor of texas ok during that time to look at it thoroughly you would not cherry pick your stats you use the whole time ok the whole time he's added a million fifty thousand jobs over those two hundred eighty thousand or government jumps at the very same time the state is added more than four million new people and so in fact he hasn't actually added government workers the way you're pretending the or your to the ratio of government workers has gone down what is really well taken professionally if you if you look at the influx of people he's got he said an enormous number of people coming in from mexico many of them illegally wealthy mexicans is escaping the drug problems that they have they have there you see a lot of people coming in from new mexico and arizona state has grown substantially and when you look at the ratio of the influx. people too the number of jobs

t. boone pickens says 500,000 jobs over five years and i believe it. the three steps that i believe would be the most powerful immediately in getting this country going again. and the marketplace would respond. >> the one part of the whole debt ceiling debate that i was surprised about involving you, because you're a pragmatic, sensible member of the republican party and not all of them are. there came a moment when you were all asked, look, if you cut spending by $10 would you get a dollar up in revenue and you voted against it. i would have thought the pragmatist, you're a compromise dpu who gets it done. >> i would lead out based on principles and what i have done. >> i had the pleasure of meeting your oldest daughter and your two adopted daughters, one from india, one from china. all delightful ladies. an interesting thing to do. you had five children and adopted two others. what was the thinking there? >> we had a little more love to give. we lived in taiwan for a while. ran into an orphanage where there were children waiting to have homes. >> two

t. boone pickens on the right, george soros on the left, had turned politics into a sport for billionaires. and in 2010, the supreme court, in a controversial decision called citizens united gutted most remaining campaign finance restrictions, saying that corporations and unions could put unlimited sums of money directly into elections. >> the supreme court reversed a century of law that i believe will open the floodgates for special interests. including foreign corporations to spend without limit in our elections. >> and today, a new era of unlimited billions spent in secret to advocate and destroy for politicians around specific policies, to the point where each and every piece of legislation virtually has its own price tag on it, each chairmanship, each congressional seat. think of it like a big box store. this is not a democracy, this is an auction for power. the debate is shaped and controlled by well-moneyed forces that are never on the ballot. and here with us, washington insider and lobbyist turned money in politics with whistle-blower, the very courageous and very impassioned jimm

t. boone pickens plan.t initial step with that bridge product called natural gas. it will be a critically important element toward energy independence which we must achieve. we've talked about it now for eight presidents. we've seen an unprecedented transfer of wealth to, for primarily the middle east. there are national security implications that are just not good at this point in our nation's history. jon: governor huntsman, we're look forward to seeing you and the other candites on the stage eight hours from now on the big debate. thanks for joining us on "happening now". >> thank you. jenna: this fox news alert, iranian president mahmoud ahmadinejad speaking to the u.n. general assembly. he used this forum to make controversial statements about israel and united states and otherwise. this statement, this speech is streaming live on our website at foxnews.com. we'll be right back. you can't change the way banking works. just accept it, man. free ? doesn't close at five ? try nature. it's a bank. what do

t. boone pickens comes up with natural gas and solar panels and all those things. guest: we have an abundant resource, what he's referring to for the viewers is the u.s. has massive amounts of natural gas. by using a technique called fracking where in the marcellus shale in parts of pennsylvania, ohio, other places, they'll go down 7,000 or 8,000 feet then the bit turns and goes into this layer of shale and fractures it. i believe that could be used for transportation, chemical industry, a lot of chemicals are made out of natural gas. that's exciting for american industry rather than importing natural gas. what's interesting is that our committee on energy and commerce was talking about building a liquefied natural gas pipes on the coast where gas could be coming in from other countries. now we talk about how to export them. it's an abundant energy resource. we need a portfolio, a menu, of energy options for this country so we're not dependent on other countries. we see what countries like russia did with the ukraine when they pulled the plug and didn't help them.

t. boone pickens does natural gas and then it comes up with a solar panels.st: he did some things with seller and natural gas. we have abundant resources. what he is referring to is that the u.s. says massive amounts of natural gas. by using a technique called fracking, i in parts of western ohio and new york, they will go down, going into a layer of shale, factoring it, and the natural gas comes out. refractor -- fracturing it, and the natural gas comes out. many products come from that, rather than importing natural gas. just a couple of years ago, they were talking of building a liquefied natural gas pipe from the coast where casket coming from other countries. now we can talk about exporting it. it is an abundant energy resources, but we need a portfolio, and menu if you will, of energy options for this country so that we're not so dependent on other countries. we saw what happened to the ukraine when russia pull the plug. i want us to be able to sustain ourselves. host: when you look at the solyndra loan, and the solyndra executives are scheduled to test

t. boone pickens, with whom i have had this conversation.eign oil. part of it comes from canada, which is ok. but the dangerous, unpredictable corners of the world where there's been a massive transfer of wealth. for the most optimistic, can-do people in the world, we can figure this out. we just need some presidential leadership to stand behind the bully pulpit and say the time is right for us to move towards energy independence, and here's how to make it happen. >> jon huntsman, look forward to seeing you tonight. don't miss it tonight. live from tampa, florida, the site of the 2012 republican national convention. wolf blitzer will moderate it. it is tonight at 8:00 eastern. let's send it back to new york. >>> fascinating interview. >> coming up next, 9/11 air scares. two separate incidents, fighter planes were scrambled and bomb squads called in. we have new details on that suspicious activity. yeah. it's 38 minutes past the hour. i can my own homemade jam, apricot. and really love my bank's ise your ratcd. i'm sorry, did you say you'd lo

t. boone pickens, jobs right here over five years. if we began a transition to feels, like natural gas, they are ours. in great abundance, they're clean, cheap, and carry pretty profound national security implications. instead of getting into an at&t discussion, i am here to tell you, folks, we have no choice, we need a big picture approach to problem-solving in this country. we cannot afford half measures any longer. it will not do for this country what needs to be done. [applause] thank you. yes, sir? >> i was in the navy when you were born. i cannot find anything that you said to disagree with, and i appreciate your enthusiasm and yours deal. when you get elected and you walk into capitol hill, 80% of the people that are there now are still going to be there. how are you going to get all these things done. >> you know, i was born in 1960, and the u.s. navy paid for my birth. i was born in the navy. i have been forever grateful. now i have two sons in the navy, just in a small attempt to pay them back. there's nothing like the voice