t.a. hearing on a board day with a timma hearing after this, that -- and i do want you guys all to continue, that this is profoundly important and what geoff, because i want to butcher his last name, just said, the decision that we all took, which was a very controversial decision, for which we took a lot of heat, was the right decision. if we spend a bunch of time on this now, i just told commissioner walton, who reminded me that the hearing is going on for a long time, we will all collectively save hours and heartache over the next many years. so i really appreciate geoff's candor about that. and we really are invested in comprehensively getting this right, amongst stakeholder agencies, with the public and the words that you've just heard "reposition, redefine" are really both a comment on phase 1 and a road map to our aspirations on phase 2 and this is not just a mega-project, it is a mega-regional project. so with that, john. right? you are john fisher, aren't you? >> i am. [laughter] >> thank you, mr. chairman. and commissioners, we concluded with our draft recommendations today. so re