t.a. henderson -- d.a. henderson to lead the smallpox i rad case -- eradication. always relied on international cooperation and cooperation between countries which generally did not agree ideologically. they're willing to put a aside their ideologies to work together, and this is something that i was, have been so impressed with as a vaccine scientist over the years, i said, hmm, how can we dust this off and maybe give it a fresh coat of paint and reinvigorate it. and i had that role as u.s. science envoy for the state department in the white house between 24014-2016 -- 2014-2016 in the obamas white house at a very difficult time in the middle east. that's when the isis occupation was starting, it's when we were at the height of the syrian conflict and civil war, it's when the proxy wars between iran and saudi arabia were beginning in yemen, and so at a very awful time looking at how we can cooperate between muslim majority nations for vaccine development. and i made some progress, but the point is i think this is a time when we need it more than ever. and we can