t.d. jakes 30,000, dallas texas. are those prosperity gospel churches? >> guest: absolutely. it's a helpful shorthand to where to find these churches. all prosperity churches and most of them omit the top nifty of the largest churches in the country. >> host: all tax-exempt? >> guest: they are entrepreneurial in spirit. the churches themselves are tax-exempt but what they specifically do is if they are famous there is a wing. t.d. jakes has enterprises and he's a great example because he's a producer and probably a writer a film writer i mean it has all kinds of fingers and the pot. >> host: that is the prophesied or the taxable side? >> guest: that's right. they will say don't look at me necessarily as an example of someone taking money out of it coffer. most of my money comes from this other wing and that is sometimes true for some it is less true for others. they don't really have to justify how much money they make him part to cuss at the theological structure of the movement. i can show you

but they're fun. >> t.d. jakes back up again. >> thank the lord, she sure did. and also charlie daniels and i hear he's bringing his fiddle. >>> at 13 years old, sarah jakes found herself pregnant and like any girl in that situation, she was scared to tell her dad. >> but it wasn't just any dad, he's bishop t.d. jakes, one of the most influential pastors in the whole country. sarah was shunned at school, gossiped about at church, eventually she married and divorced, but she didn't let the pain dictate her future. >> she writes all about it in her new memoir called "lost and found:finding hope in the detours of life." >> hello. >> very, very nice to have you with us. we met your dad so many times. >> so glad to be here. >> to be 13 and to have to reveal to your parents that you are pregnant must have been one of the, i guess, scariest things you've ever had to do. >> it was so scary that i didn't want to do it. my sister actually wrote a letter and told them and left it in the mailbox and luckily she was smart and w

some of the most popular are joel osteen, t.d. jakes, joyce meyer, frederick price. everywhere there is to make a church and local celebrity you will find press dirty preacher. no one wants to be called a prosperity preacher. how do you want people and that would naturally resist that kind of label? >> guest: to some of those participate in the book? >> guest: dates it. i managed to visit a quarter of prosperity churches. i interview someone representing the ministry. i went to every major conference. i was the annoying person pressed up against the glass at every conference hoping to get a glimpse of what was going on. >> host: what did you hear? what kind of message are these churches preaching? >> guest: was surprised me the most was it wasn't so much about money. at that naturally prosperity cost full is one of the most surprising claims. surely this is a gospel about money. but i found was people didn't talk about many nearly as much as i acted into. the kind of excitement they had was that every special detail was given god's attention. not just the kind of god

. >> reporter: but t.d. jakes, disagree. >> it gives us the possibility of the impossible. >> reporter: and this remarkable child may be giving believers hope. >> heaven is for real. and you're going to like it. >> reporter: the movie "heaven is for real" is having a real impact at the box office, with just a $12 million budget. it's grossed $29 million, which by comparison is beating johnny depp's new movie. and we asked in our flash poll, do you believe people can see heaven during a near-death experience. 88% of you say yes. george and robin? >> we can probably give a lot of people comfort. >> absolutely. it certainly does. >>> coming up, everybody. drew carey, cheryl burke, bounced out of the ballroom on "dancing with the stars." and they were kind enough to fly all night to be with us, live. >> we can't wait to see them. >>> and coming up, the extreme some people are going to for that picture-perfect selfie, including plastic surgery. really? oh. we've got fireworks also coming up in our "play of the day." co

. >> but it wasn't just any dad, he's bishop t.d. jakesled "lost and found:finding hope in the detours of life." >> hello. >> very, very nice to have you with us. we met your dad so many times. >> so glad to be here. >> to be 13 and to have to reveal to your parents that you are pregnant must have been one of the, i guess, scariest things you've ever had to do. >> it was so scary that i didn't want to do it. my sister actually wrote a letter and told them and left it in the mailbox and luckily she was smart and wise enough to finally include them in everything, but i was terrified. >> how did they react? what was your dad's initial reaction? >> both my parents were devastated. i don't think anyone dreams their child will have a baby at that age, but at the end of the day, they really rallied together and supported me. >> if anybody understands grace, it is your dad and mom. they both -- they have been in ministry for the longest time. and it has to be for your own family as well. you were a little bit of a rebel. you grew up in this home t