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joining us now bishop t.d. jake, the founder and senior pastor of the potter house. jakes, thank you so much for joining us. what role do you want churches and other faith communities to play in the path forward? >> first of all, wolf, thank you for having me. delighted to be with you. i think churches have the obligation not to look the other way on this issue and to be a significant part of the african-american community and being involved in providing solutions and the process because we're want just looking at the deterioration of the criminal justice system which have been corroded for some time and we're looking at the deterioration of trust in the community and when you lose trust as a leader and as an official, the consequences can be absolutely devastating and they are too high for us to pay and we have to do something to restore trust. >> it's an important trust. you also pointed out that black clergy in the united states have led the fight for social justice. what would you want to see now from white faith leaders and white americans in general. >> you kno

a man trying to argue for cooler and calmer heads to prevail, is bishop t.d. jakesjake foundation chairman, potters senior pastor, much, much more. very good to have you. people are rightfully still alarmed and obviously apoplectic over the death of george floyd, i get that, but these measures that so many are considering to defund or remove police departments, is that overdone? what do you think? >> well, i think that if you just look at it through the prism of george floyd you missed a bigger issue that, what i think we're witnessing is a revolution from years and years of discrimination and police brutality that has reached a head after years of years trying to explain it and express it in calm terms and interviews and peaceful demonstrations have not been successful but we have reached a tipping point where america, not just black people, are starting to say, that they now recognize it. i think george floyd's case helped that to happen. when you start looking at eliminating police department funding, my view is, the funding should be predicated on their ability

. >>> bishop t.d. jakes is the founder and senior pastor at the potters house mega church in dallas. bishop jakes, thank you for joining us. you say this country is at a turning point. where do we go from here? >> thank you for having me, it's a pleasure to be here today. we're standing on the precipice of either great rejuvenation, a rebuilding, a restructuring of our country, or we walk away from it with only seeing it within the context of george floyd and ahmaud arbery and the other cases that we can so easily name. i want to be clear that these are just the tip of the iceberg for all of the people who didn't have a camera, who didn't have footage, who never made it to the press. they're just an icon for milliliters of oth millions of our people in our community. we have a lot of work to do. i have never seen the rallying of people of all people, cultures, races, generations, around a cause as we have seen in recent weeks. it gives me hope about the possibility that we could get substantive change. >> i

thank you so much. >>> bishop t.d. jakesnt message business time it takes to create change. he is the senior pastor at the potters house which has more than 30,000 members. bishop jakes spoke out on friday. >> real change comes in processing, comes in time. i think we're at a turning point right now. which way that turn goes is up to you and i and what we do with it and how we respond to it. >> bishop jakes joins us only on "cbs this morning." bishop, it's always good to see you. i've heard i watershed moment. a game changer. a tipping point. we heard you say a turning point is the word you use. how do we embrace this moment and turn it into real change? >> well, first of all, i think that it is a turning point because it is -- the protesters are not all black or all white. the american community is all marching -- in fact, the global community is marching in an unprecedented way that is indicative of the fact that we have been heard and somebody gets it. but what we really must focus on is moving from protesting to policy.

we have bishop t.d. jakes on healing america in this particular point in time.he next generation what can parents do right now? their kids are seeing what is going on on the tv. how do you talk to children u to seatisppd cont it head on. i think a lot of parents will appreciate that conversation. that and much more, len. >> we will see you at 7:00, important conversations right now. thank you, tony. >>> and turning now to campaign 2020, former vice president joe biden is on the verge of clinching the democratic party's nomination. primaries held in seven state ands the district of columbia on tuesday. he won hundreds more delegates on tuesday night. the primary coming as a test of the nation's ability to run elections while balancing a pandemic sweeping social unrest. more states go to the polls next week, and biden could lock down the nomination. > city of ferguson, missouri, just elected their first female black mayor this week. in 2014 ferguson was the epicenter of racial unrest over the shooting of michael brown, shot by a white police officer, sparking outr

bishop t.d. jakes joining joins lead" with jake tapper. >>> but first, many americans are overwhelmed by a sense of pain, loss, and grief. greer's nonprofit helps families process their grief. >> grief was already heightened with covid-19. people lost jobs, family members, and then for the whole george floyd incident to be witnessed nationally, this is now grief on top of grief. it is a very sad, scary, angry time. anyone who has a heart. the tears, the yelling, even the violent behavior, these are all grief reactions. grief is messy. grief is not having a safe community or to have your store looted. that's also grief. the way that we all can deal with grief constructively is to do something positive to take action and protest peacefully, reaching out to help someone in need. act upon your grief to make positive meaning so you can deal with this in a healthy way. >> you can hear more from our heroes. go to cnnheroes.com. and we will be right back. >> announcer: "cnn heroes" because to you by subaru. lo