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neil: however nonchalantly walking out of that t.j. maxxspend one day in jail. and they know that. out of t.j. maxx, didn't even run out, they knew there were no repercussions. this is incredible and going on too long. neil: what's the impact on your job and your colleague's job? you have to deal with these spikes, some of them serious and some not so serious that all spikes across the board, how do you prioritize? >> we prioritize felonies, robberies but even those are being downplayed. with da gascon, even if it is over $950 this district attorney has no concerns for victims. his concerns are with criminals. they know even if it is over 950, it will be down to a misdemeanor charge so there's no repercussions at all. neil: depending on where you are there's a strong effort to defund the police or cut back on the police or second-guess the police no matter what they are doing. i your men and women under that pressure? are they aware when they go out on something they are a smart phone video away from potentially losing their jobs? >> absolu

jillian: a video of california shoplifters nonchalantly leaving the t.j. maxx not new in california, we've been organized in a deliberative manner to address the issue of organized retail for a number of years. that said we are doubling down on those efforts. todd: the president of the california retailer association rachel michelin and double-decker bus tour owner, thank you for being here. we will get to newsom in a second. as a business owner how demoralizing is it to you to see that video of t.j. maxx? i would be so upset, so downtrodden. >> it is very tough. we deal with this every day. a lot of cars are being broken into in front of our office. they are breaking into their cars, taking their stuff, their luggage, their electronics and it is happening in broad daylight. 5 to 10 cars a day, it is scary, people don't want to come back. todd: you heard the governor. is the state doing enough to help retailers? >> that is a great first start, we pushed -- the retail industry in california, we have a lot of work to do. when you look at the city and see this com

otherwise people will walk out of the t.j. maxx holding heaps of clothes and walking out, not even running out. something needs to be fixed. it has to do with the defund the police movement and also the fact that we can see other criminals get away with things like we saw in d.c. >> emily: that's right. martha, so abby mentions the legislature, for example, just one link in the whole chain in the criminal justice season and in our societal justice system that exists for a reason. when d.a.s are not doing their job, not prosecuting the crimes, that's a big hole that we're experiencing now. the system exists so defense attorneys can represent the defendants and ensure justice for them, be advocates for them. if the d.a.s are not representing the victims and the states, the entire thing falls apart. >> yeah, we've seen gaskon, the a.g. in los angeles. a likely incoming in new york that feels this way. one in austin as well that basically has put out a list of unprosecutable crimes. jumping turnstiles, resisting a wrist, low level drug

two brazen shoplifters out at t.j. maxx, walking out with arm full of merchandise. one even carrying a massive ful bag stuffed, strolling right past the store clerks, as law and order appears to be flippin away. in la police sergeant saying they don't even run out, they walk out. and so that is sending a message , that we the criminals are winning very just last week of rite aid employee in los angeles shot and killed for confronting to shoplifters. california seeing an uptick in retail and grocery store thefts in recent months. now california governor newsom has announced efforts suddenly to crackdown. >> we've all seen the images of people rushing in and i'll highlight just one of them at macy's, you see them all across the state of california. these organized efforts and the are organized disproportionate efforts. we want to go after those. >> live in la, critics say this is the fault of his policy, but now he's got a new policy? >> governor newsom wants to pla the blame game, he's attacking organized crime. but when they are committing th crimes, the police are

casually working out of a t.j. maxx in broad daylight with their arms filled with stolen items. president biden claims republicans are lying about democrats pushing to defund the police. >> john: coming up, we'll talk to geraldo rivera. also on deck today, congressman john catco on the not of fentanyl in the country and the delay to objecting the border with canada. joe concha and marc siegel coming up. >> sandra: the biden administration reportedly weighing whether they should shift guidance on masking up as covid cases surge across the country. welcome. i'm sandra smith on this thursday in new york, this is "america reports." hello, john. >> john: game two of a double-header. i'm john roberts in washington. according to "the washington post," white house aides are in talk with cdc officials about proposed messaging to the public. one idea is asking all americans to wear masks when vaccinated and unvaccinated people are together indoors or in public places. how do you know? local governments are already taking matters into their own hands as more cities and communities reimpose

. >> cameras captured two men walking out of the t.j. maxx with merchandise.y crimes like this are spiking because under california state law, $950 are considered a misdemeanor not felony. the sergeant with the lapd says, quote, if they are caught they are probably given the equivalent of a tractor ticket. it's not taken seriously. >> washington dc, mayor muriel bowser directing police to use any overtime necessary to keep the city safe after weekend of shootings including this one that sent people running for their lives at the nationals game. jillian: this comes a year after the council voted to partially defund police. you to react as treasurer of washington dc police union, mayorappreciate it. here is the mayor's statement, quote, over the last you the district of columbia is grappling with a sustained increase in gun violence, the terrible incidents of the past weekend including the tragic murder of nayak courtney illustrates how far we must still go to address the brazen shooters in our neighborhoods. how far do you have to go and is enough being done? >

that was the scene at a t.j. maxx camping? they are going shoplifting was the reason they feel so emboldened is proposition 47 lower criminal sentences with police forces depleted or just beaten down by anti-cop rhetoric, cases of excluded. many of the same people who probably supported this at the time i finally speaking out. >> goes on morning tonight every single day over and over. >> just taking it, grabbing it and running. you don't feel safe. >> i've never seen this. laura: heather mcdonald, senior fellow at the manhattan institute and author of the war on cops, what is this going to lead to? >> perfect symbol of where california is. walgreens in san francisco closed 17 stores, target has cut back its hours at 5 stores because management does not want to across shoplifters for fear of being accused of racial profiling and even if it does try to apprehend shoplifters the system will not respond because the criminals justice system does not want to be accused of racial disparate impact so you have the good guys, p

side is he's an artist selling art and looks like something you would see on the bargain shelf at t.j. maxxas 500,$000 to undisclosed donors. republicans on house oversight and the requested information from the white house about all these transactions, specifically hunter biden and who exactly is purchasing this artwork at such inflated prices. laura: we know how it goes, someone calls up the gallery and says i want to buy this, 200,$000 and then they call up hunter biden and say i like your painting, kind of expensive at 200,$000 and leave it at that and then i've got this thing going on in west virginia, would love to meet with some folks in the white house, can you help me out, that is how it will go, something like that. >> the white house tried to defend that by saying hunter biden has a right to pursue his dreams and i agree with that, he has a right to pursue his dreams even though the democrats didn't think the trump children had a right to pursue their business interests they started decades before donald trump thought about getting into politics but the problem with what hunter b

specifically the video we were just showing of these criminals brazenly casually walking out of a t.j. maxxappening over of and over. your state, california, has become the shoplifting capital of the world. a sergeant with lapd says it sends a message that criminals are winning, that they can just casually do this. do you agree? >> the bottom line is crime pays now. if i didn't have morals and values, i would think i'm in the wrong profession. we have to get back to the basics. we have to, because what's happening is not just businesses but real victims of crime are suffering. i used to have the busiest cell phone in the city where i work in skid row and now i barely get a call. when i go to the community meetings, the people vent and all get all their frustrations out to me, saying we're getting robbed and beaten and threatened every day. i'm like why don't you call? because we know your hands are tied and we know if our attacker gets arrested he'll be walking the streets the next day. this what is i hear from citizens. i'm tired of das making unions the scapegoats. it's ridiculous. i am n

we have seen the video of people walking out with great big arms full of stuff from t.j. maxxse days in a lot of the localities which have, you know, they have relaxed the penalties for things like, you know, and stuff. >> i spent two decades in law enforcement and this is definitely different. i think we have to address -- if we're going to keep law enforcement as an attractive, very holistic, very integrity driven catastrophe we have to look at it holistically. it is that we are allowing individuals to get away with crime. but we are also looking at our country where our law enforcement officers testified on tuesday but how they were assaulted and the consequences are very minimal. so, we have to take responsibility wholly for what we are seeing in this country as it relates to not supporting our police officers. steve: chief, before you go. so, some localities as we detailed in the beginning are now going to rehire police. but, given what's happened, if you are a young person and thinking about a career, why would you choose law enforcement? >> well, i would pray that indiv

people brazenly walking into t.j. maxxtealing and walking out. they aren't even running out. they are walking right out the door. what do you say? >> o only anarchists liz want to live in a world where thieves are not persecuted in the business can set up shop and expect people to pay for hamerchandise. that is not an organized society that's anarchists and it's simply not true for the president or anyone else to say that crime generally is down. what may be down a rest and maybe down. especially during the horror of the pandemic police and jails when out of their way to keep the jail populations down. police let a lot of a lot of things lied on purpose because of the pandemic but then what happened after the peak of the pandemic, we had the defund the police movement and police suddenly became the villain and what police did is they said okay we don't have to make a traffic stop and we are going to make one. we will only do what we actually must do. we won't do the discretionary things and that means arrests were way down

. ♪ ♪ >> bret: two men in a los angeles suburb seen on camera brazenly living a t.j. maxxe sergeant blames the incident on prop 47 a 2014 referendum that lowered criminal sentences on crimes such as shoplifting. california governor gavin newsom disagrees. >> those initiatives have given you was the ability to invest unprecedented amount of money back into communities and so we're going to go after the root causes and we are going to prosecute. >> police sergeant says the fact the men walked not ran out of the store send a message that the criminals are winning there. now, to the olympics. even though the opening ceremony has not yet happened, there is already competition in and around tokyo. the u.s. women's soccer team suffered a shocking loss after 44 straight wins. following a political statement on the sidelines prior to the match. rules prohibiting such behavior are under attack from one famous former olympian. we get details tonight from correspondent dan springer. >> three-time olympic medalist lebron james media company says the international olympic committee is a

this is a southern california t.j. maxx. people just walking in and walking out with arm fulls of stuff. i mean, it happens on a daily basis all across california. because you know, if it's $1,000 or less, it's not a crime. nobody it seems to me will get arrested for this. what is going on here? >> you're absolutely right. crime does pay right now across this country. criminals know that they have the green light to do what they want to do because we're in an era where we coddle criminals. so they get away with not just thefts but my concern is the human toll. where i work, aggravated assaults and robberies occur all the time and the criminals have no fear of consequences because they know they will get slapped on the rest and be a revolving door, the case will get rejected and continue to victimize people and make it hard for the service providers that are real heros that are trying to make a difference. >> we have seen people on video get punched in the face and they didn't report it to police because they knew that person

prepared for both dialogue and confrontation, the same thing my aunt says when she walks into a t.j. maxxter ] let's go well guys, the olympics are almost here and today organizers announced that venues will be at 50% capacity [ cheers and applause that's right 50%, which means only four people will be allowed to watch fencing instead of the normal eight. [ laughter ] en garde do they start with the hand up here >> steve: sure, why not. yeah >> jimmy: eventually - i've seen them do it >> steve: eventually it's at there. >> jimmy: but does it start -- like this, maybe >> steve: yeah, maybe that maybe that that looks good. you look good. >> jimmy: this looks -- i look like a fencer there. >> steve: yeah, a fencer with stolen - >> jimmy: just being cocky [ light laughter ] >> steve: yes, got to put pinky out on the sword >> jimmy: yeah, i throw the pinky out. [ light laughter ] >> steve: you know, have class there you go class it up a little bit >> jimmy: pure class pinky out on the sword, like that maybe like that. >> steve: yeah, like a a flourish like a - >> jimmy: like a - >> steve: like

then you have these situations where thieves are strolling out of t.j. maxx, this is in grenada hills, california. you can't blame the people that work there for standing by and for not calling the police because somebody -- one of the store workers in another store was killed by people that came in to shop lift recently. what is the solution here? >> first of all, i agree with you, alderman. i was the attorney general of virginia. there was a time not while i was a.g. where richmond was a murder capitol of the united states. the solution was a joint federal and state strike force, not to overuse the term. the tool was singular. it was to go after criminals that commit crimes with guns and put them away as long as you possibility can. guess what? it worked. look, prisons are for people like this. who are committing these kinds of crimes. that's why we build prisons. it isn't for everybody. it is f administration is going to do is start blaming as they have already done and mayor lightfoot as well, blaming law-abiding gun owners for gun crime. most of the guns

meantime, did you she this latest video that is coming in out of the grenada hills, california t.j. maxxundreds of dollars of items? they stole this stuff. they don't seem to be in any panic or rush. some of the reaction we're getting to a new california measure to crack down on this, no one seems to be too panicked. why? after this. pain hits fast. so get relief fast. only tylenol rapid release gels have laser-drilled holes. they release medicine fast for fast pain relief. tylenol rapid release gels. >> neil: california's governor announcing a crackdown on crime in the state right now, particularly some of the more brazen outdoor daylight attacks that have a lot of people wondering is anyone in charge. alicia acuna has more on this. alicia? >> california plans to treat some retail theft as organized crime. today newsome signed a bill that adds muscle to a task force made up of the california highway patrol justice department and local authorities to track criminals like the group that hit a san francisco neiman marcus running out with designer handbags. >> we've been organized in a very

first, you have to understand, it's like almost impossible to steal $950 of merchandise from t.j. maxx that -- you see how much they're carrying. they're not even worried. everybody is there like yeah, what the hell. this is insane. so you have that coupled with the other crime, which i this brazen attack on a police officer. these things, they point to a greater problem. that is it is known you can do it. it's absolutely known. there's an acceptance. there's an abdication of civil society. no one is interested anymore in this. it's frightening. you talked in the break about how does an empire fall? it doesn't fall at once. it's like the frog in the can of water. slowly boiling. every day if you live in a city, you can feel that boil. you can just feel it changing and changing. everybody you talk to, democrat or republican, are against crime. they really are. everybody believes that crime is wrong. so how is this happening? >> martha: the crazy thing is, you have these das across the country. we have gaskon in los angeles and now alvin brag is joining these prosecutors that are lowerin

new video of thieves just slowly walking out of a t.j. maxx their back full of items. look at this. people standing there watching them no. one stopping them because the employees say it's not worth it. brian: allowed to do this it's under $1,000. gavin newsom i'm going for a recall. people want me to do something. i have an idea. pass it to reestablish -- reestablish a law that prevents you from robbing a store in an organized fashion. designation that laps earlier enter a place like this in an organized manner and try to steal things, it's illegal. if you walk in hab hazard by yourself dressed differently you will be able to full off. steve: what they did is still illegal but it's a misdemeanor. and because the cops are strapped and they don't have enough resources and they don't have the money and they don't have the will and they don't have the backing of the community or rather of their bosses they're not going to prosecute people. that's why the threshold is 950 bucks. ainsley: walk in a store and get a gift card for $949. steve: you pro

two brazen shoplifters out at t.j. maxx, walking out with arm full of merchandise.

brazen shoplifters caught on camera casually walking out of a t.j. maxx there in los angeles.s. big did you have bags of stolen items. and our next guest sets lack of consequences is sending a very clear message to the thieves. criminals are winning. sergeant is the vice president of the los angeles police protective league and she joins us now. good morning, sergeant. >> good morning, how are you? ainsley: good morning, doing well. when you see criminals casually walking out. stuffing huge bags full of merchandise, what message does that send you? why are they doing this? >> this brazen criminals it spewed by two things. spewed by prop 47 and the new district attorney george cass connie. they have absolutely no consequences. as you can see they walk out like another day in the neighborhood. businesses are suffering as well as the community members are suffering. this has to stop. the message they're sending is that they can do what they want to do any time they want. ainsley: that's right. not fair to the people doing the right thing what merchandise. >> yeah. absolutely. it

take a look at this video, shoplifters boldly walking out of a t.j. maxxs filled with stolen goods. the incident is not unique to la, other cities in california like san francisco are reporting an increase in shoplifting, mark, because if you steal a certain amount of goods under a certain amount of money, there are no consequences. mark: yeah. i think in california it's 950 bucks. but did you see the size of that guy's backpack? i mean, this is absolutely crazy. i have no idea what kind of society we're trying to create here. these guys literally calmly walked out of the store with all this stuff. there's no consequences at all. if you're these criminals why wouldn't you give it the old college try. this is what happens when you have poor leadership, when you talk about defunding the police, you have bail reform, you want to release from jail all nonviolent offenders, you're enabling this kind of he behavior. from reading the article, looks like over the last three years, california has recovered over $16 billion, with a b, in merchandise. this is absolut