rule one of the low points many would argue of that period was during president tabo mbeki time in office between 190-2008 his dinner list positions around aids and hiv and his refusal to allow antiretrovirals which led according to a harvard university study to more than $330000.00 premature deaths as someone who was an ally of president mbeki at the time or someone who was deputy speaker and then speaker of parliament at that time what do you say to your critics who say that he and you were effectively complicit in those unnecessary deaths hundreds of thousands of people. they were putting it mady is if we set and actually pull our tent that thousands of people must die no it was not like that it was a process of course and our role as parliament through the 11 portfolio committee of health is to exercise oversight over what the executive is doing and it is not as though this health committee was seized with the issues that whole world was trying to find out what's the best thing to do and i must say that it has been said internationally that south africa we was one of the countries whe

rule one of the low points many would argue of that period was during president tabo mbeki time in office between 190-2008 his denier list positions around a and hiv and his refusal to allow antiretrovirals which lead according to a harvard university study to more than $330000.00 premature deaths as someone who was an ally of president mbeki at the time of someone who was deputy speaker and then speaker of parliament at that time what do you say to your critics who say that he and you were effectively complicit in those unnecessary deaths hundreds of thousands of people. they were putting it maybe is if we set and actually pull our tent that thousands of people must die no it was not like that it was a process of course and our role as parliament through the 11 portfolio committee of health is to exercise oversight over what the executive is doing and it is not as though this health committee was seized with the issues that whole world was trying to find out what's the best thing to do and i must say that it has been said internationally that south africa we was one of the countries wher

rule one of the low points many would argue of that period was during president tabo mbeki time in office between 999-2008 his dinner list positions around aids and hiv and his refusal to allow antiretrovirals which lead according to a harvard university study to more than $330000.00 premature deaths as someone who was an ally of president mbeki at the time or someone who was deputy speaker and then speaker of parliament at that time what do you say to your critics who say that he and you were effectively complicit in those unnecessary deaths hundreds of thousands of people. they were putting it maybe is if we sat and actually pull our tent that thousands of people must die no it was not like that it was a process of course and our role as parliament through the little relevant portfolio committee of health is to exercise oversight over what the executive is doing and it is not as though this health committee was seized with the issues that whole world was trying to find out was the best thing to do and i must say that it has been said internationally that south africa we was one of the c

was the midwife of a bizarre arms deal and it stretches all the way to former president tabo mbeki many a 100 largest come in there and so. and promises that ex-president jacob zuma. i was going to pick up on on just the extent to which this impacts the own sea because it's very you know as what are you hearing me who i swim can you hear me it's very crackly really cracked is there's a little bit of a delay as world which might see its crack which i've been unfairly here you let me just persevered with this i just wanted to ask you a question about the implications for the sea and to what extent there is still support resume or in the in the ranks of the party irrespective of the fact that that resource so launching this crackdown on corruption. well i think you know you just today use witnessed a complete decline in support of fishley from the a.n.c. in previous court appearances on various matters. the leadership was there formally in the court today it was noticeable that the chairperson of the agency in the province was not there and those who attended attended in their personal cap