this deals with section three zero two of taft hartly taft hartley modified the way racked. lay out what the wagner act was what taft hartley did what three o two does and why that why we should care about this so the wagner after it's passed during the height of the new deal that established for the first time in the very far yet established for the first time the right of the american worker to unionize and also stablish the national labor relations they were relations board and gave the ability to regulate the election process in the unions but you know conservatives are outraged by that so they asked the taft hartley at nine hundred forty seven that modified the budget wagner act we can protections for workers and allowed for the right to work for less laws that we now see run rampant alex ordered all over the country but section three zero two of the taft hartley act actually prohibited the exchange of so-called things of value between unions and employers in the negotiations over union contracts and where this comes into play and unite here local three three five perso

don't know how you explain or justify unless you try to draw some distinction between union plans, taft hartleynd other self-insurance plans. >> so what though? >> the average american is asking the question where is my deal? they are the ones getting stuck with the higher premiums, cancelled coverages, you know, the higher taxes and everything that's associated with this. >> so you have a bill to stop this. >> we do. we have a bill that says everybody needs to be treated equally, fairly under this. >> there is a concept. >> you have a reinsurance tax 63 bucks a head. 63 bucks a head. not for the other self-insured plans but for the union plans as well. >> do you have any democrats signing on to the bill. >> not yet. i think the wall of resistance among democrats is starting to crack a little bit. as you know, they are taking quite a pounding right now. particularly red state democrats. >> if there is a good reason, let's hear it. if the democrats have a good reason, if the president has a good reason, let's hear it. maybe i would be convinced if there is a good idea to do this for the unions.

make no mistake about it, most of the people who would be affected by this are people in the taft/hartley plans, i heard the comment about state and local universities. this is mostly unions. if you want to think about unions, think of construction unions. this is where most of the impact is. >> jared, come on, this feels like politics. there's pay back, helping out some contributors. why extemperature these unions in this case? >> i certainly agree that it feels like politics. let me correct, though, a misimpression. the vast majority of these unions or taft/hartly plans, especially the construction ones rick just mentioned, are not self-administered. they have third-party administrators so they won't be exempt. we can argue if this is a political goody. i got news for you, political goodies happen and none of us like it. this is very, very small beer. if you think this is annex obama scare scandal, you're wrong. the fundamental funding of affordable care act does not depend on this reinsurance program. in fact, harry reid proposed just what maria bartiromo proposed, which is to put it o

. >> right now, i'm with taft we' hartley fund. anyone who has a good 60 relationship with a carrier like anthem, they say, we'll give you a guaranteed discount of 60%, but it's based on the usual and customary, what i'm suggesting is we would have a lot more be manpower if our carriers weren'f just negotiating on my behalf or kroger's behalf, on their book p of business and telling some of these facilities, we will take a 60% discount but up to a a reference price as opposed to the usual and customary, which is more supply driven.somethin and so it's a really kind of oud of the box way to think, but it's something i think that everyone in the room could till benefit from, if they have, youg know, stronger negotiations, while we still have a chance before network negotiations go t away, because everyone in the country is going to have stion insurance. and a hospital won't take a discount any more.- >> that's a very improved some formulation of your question from mine. ea >> the point i would make is that i -- that this whole area y

. >> right now -- i'm a taft-hartley fund, but anybody who has a relationship with a good carrier like an anthem, they say we'll give you a guaranteed discount of 60%. but it's based on the usual and customary. and what i'm suggesting is we would have a lot more manpower if our carriers weren't just negotiating on my behalf or kroger's behalf, but on their of business and telling some of these facilities we will take a 60% discount but be up to a reference price as opposed to the usual and customary which is more supply driven. and so it's a really kind of out of the box way to think, but it's something i think everybody in the room could benefit from if they have, you know, stronger negotiations while we still have a chance before network negotiations go away because everyone in the country's going to have insurance, and a hospital won't take a discount anymore. >> that's a very improved formulation of your question from if -- from mine. and does it elicit some further response from any of our panelists? >> well, again, the point i would make is that i, that in this whole area of pric

one was by invoking the taft/hartley act which required a cooling off period. allowed 30 or 60 days during which the parties had to get together. and he was able to mediate. johnson would often bring the unions and business into the white house to settle a strike. he did that with an almost automobile strike, with an almost steel strike. and he would lock people up and say, nobody gets out until you agree. you have to be able to agree. >> phoenix, arizona. >> caller: yes. i'm calling from phoenix, arizona. and my mother -- my parents are originally from texas. and lbj was my mother's teacher in 1928. and my parents are doing very well. they live pretty good and she always talks about lbj and she was crying one evening because she liked school so much, she didn't want to go home. she sat on his lap and they sang a couple of songs together. we visited a couple of years ago and she was telling me a story about her going to school, about her teacher and she's always talking about lbj and how -- what a man he was and a sincere man also. and that's what i keep the me

we get pushed back again with taft-hartley. making progress. that is very important. had some relative victories. that is very important to keep in mind. mind that junein 27, 1964, martin luther king jr. made a phone call to malcolm x. malcolm x was going to the u.n. to the united states on trial for the violation of human rights, beginning with black folk lynching and so on. mature, henued to was connecting poor people the way martin was an even talking about working people and always focused on the precious dignity of the people in africa. they wanted to get together to put the united states on trial or the violation of human rights , the violation of those human rights that of human rights by those hume -- by those brothers and sisters killed by drones. some of us have to be willing to die. somebody has to be around to keep fighting. what they were doing is saying we are going for broke. a chance to do that together. come, lowith lots to and behold that kind of momentum channeled in the right moral and spiritual way. are talking about righteous indignation tied to

they debate the taft-hartley bill a couple of times as bright young members.ontribution from his father joe kennedy to the nixon senate campaign against douglas. in '52 nixon sponsored the new senator kennedy for membership in the burning tree club, the nixons were invited to a kennedy wedding in '53. in '59 president kennedy or senator kennedy told his close friend charlie batterly that if the democrats didn't nominate him, kennedy in 1960 he would vote for nixon. all of that ended and went south with tea 60 campaign which was a searing experience for nixon. it was arguably the prototype the paradigm of modern campaigning. nixon was side swiped by the kennedy machine. eight years later hubert humphrey described it in his memoirs. he described the '68 campaign and said beneath the beautiful surface there was an element of ruthlessness and toughness that he would never forget. >> dan, do you think that this story that 50 years from now there will be former anchors sitting at this desk talking about the impact of the assassination of john f. kennedy not just on