the paper, that is where they are getting their input and it starts to blue the lines, what is a "tager?" what does that mean and sometime yours jury is going ohave that in your head when they talk to you. or when they listen to your case and you need to clear that up, so they understand exactly where you are coming from when you do a case. so over the years we developed five types of the graffiti. now there are a lot of ways to categorize graffiti. you might look at old-school/new school, geographically, east coast/west coast. this categorization here is so we have a simple presentation that is easy to articulate in court, and we can explain exactly what we have got and what we haven't got. we're going talk about each one of these individually. you have got "communicative." you have "hate." you have "gang." "tagger." and "art," and this one i still consider an anomaly. it's important it's there because it then allows to you classify all graffiti in one way or another. >> i think it ae's public and private property. i'm against graffiti. >> who can get it out the most who can be noticed