i saw it and i describe in the book, with tahiti relief operations and military side looks like as well. part of the effort underway as part of the bureaucrats because 8016 or agencies. we need to get these diplomats to get out of there and we'll all be together jostling along in the back of a humvee, going to drink three cups of tea with an elder. it's not as simple as that because what happens if you're getting shot at along the way? >> has it been an effective foreign policy tool? >> i would argue that it sends mixed messages about who we are as a nation. >> it's a contradiction in that sends a signal that, you know, for instance it we are talking about in parts of the developing world we think an important principle of civilian control of the military and the edits are military people doing the training. it says a little something interesting about who we are. and i worry as well, especially when it comes to operating in places like this, that we adopt a little bit of a fortress america mindset. i talk a lot in part by what they called force protection in the military and inevitably

c-span: comedy tent city than tahiti?guest: i started when i worked at the "miami herald," the first job i had i covered the haiti neighborhood in miami and i became very interested and started when he was still in power and for over a decade it was almost like an obsession remission. i relentlessly covered pd. c-span: 1980 to 1988 to now, "washington post." let's look at photographs. these are the photographs that won this year's pulitzer for her photography and if you can remember, tell us who took what picture and where was this? >> guest: this was mickey's picture actually. a little back story, michael disabled who was an amazing person who manages with dignity and heart inhumanity and we started together at the "miami herald" taking pictures and we shared our first pulitzer for the slide and now i'm sharing this so i don't know what the odds are for that, but it's quite amazing. c-span: who took this? >> guest: that's mine. it's hard to look at that. it was a sea of bodies. it's kind of indescribable. i shot a few fr