general el-sisi took over. >> sennott: tahrir square erupted. (people cheering) (people yelling angrily) >> sennott: but at the raba'a al-adawiya mosque, men and women wept. >> this definitely was very painful. we lost the country on july 3rd. but there was a quick decision made, a quick realization that we don't have to tolerate this. we will fight this. >> sennott: the muslim brotherhood dug in. at the raba'a al-adawiya mosque, they set up a field hospital, a press center, and established a kind of human shield to protect their leaders inside. the son of a senior muslim brotherhood official became their principal press spokesman. he claimed the high moral ground. >> what's at stake here is not morsi. what's at stake here is the fact that for the first time, egyptians were believing in the idea of democracy. what guarantees do they have if the military now sets a new roadmap for a new presidential election, a new parliamentary election and a new constitution, and then if it doesn't like the results, to derail it all at once? >> i know they stil

>> reporter: from tahrir square, morsi stood already before his supporters in a signal he was not afraid, he showed the crowd he was not wearing any body armo armor. >> he got elected by the people, 52% of the people of the egyptian people. i don't care why they were voting against his opponent, but they elected him. why don't people just accept this? >> reporter: morsi promised to be a president to all egyptians and president obama hailed his election as a milestone in egypt's transition to democracy. he had won but he was already facing powerful opponents. just a few days earlier, egypt's supreme court hacked with mu baring a judges had declared january's primary election invalid and ordered the parliament shut down. islamist parties led by the muslim brotherhood had won nearly 70% of the seats. >> they destroyed parliament two days before the presidential election and they knew if a president comes with an election voted in, these two institutions can literally start dismantling the old dictatorship bit by bit and they have to dysfunction one lemo element of that. >> the dlem na is th

them of course you know like in the arab awakening for example you didn't see al qaeda flags in tahrir square or in tune is there enough even earlier on in syria and so on you know in those revolutions even in libya too you saw a popular movement and where the popular opinion can have an impact can have an effect then you get change without violence ok kelly that we we know it least it's been alleged that a number of americans were involved in this attack in kenya this is very interesting in looking at the recruiting of these organizations i don't know all of them and i don't know all the details but more and more western nationals are involved here syria is a good case in point here this is very interesting as well is because this is not only something happening far far away but it's something getting closer and closer to home i don't know i think the last count it was over one thousand e.u. nationals in syria fighting with the rebels i mean this is another one of the blowback is the cancer that this war on terror creates. well yeah and i think i think stephen alluded to this that the attack

them of course you know like in the arab awakening for example you didn't see al qaeda flags in tahrir square and today is the or even earlier on in syria and so on you know in those revolutions even in libya too you saw a popular movement and where the popular opinion can have an impact can have an effect then you get change without violence ok kelly that we we know it least it's been alleged that a number of americans were involved in this attack in kenya this is very interesting in looking at the recruiting of these organizations i don't know all of them and i don't know all the details but more and more western nationals are involved here syria is a good case in point here this is very interesting as well is because this is not only something happening far far away but it's something getting closer and closer to home i don't know i think the last count it was over one thousand e.u. nationals in syria fighting with the rebels i mean this is another one of the blowback the cancer that this war on terror creates. well yeah and i think i think stephen alluded to this that the attack that we s

all of these young people, when the arab spring began in tahrir square and you were there. i don't believe i've ever seen a group of young people who were more impressive. the way they spoke. their grasp of things. they had used social media to pull each other out. a lot of them didn't have jobs. there were nowhere near 400,000 jobs for university graduates produced for the egyptian economy. unemployment among young people in greece is over 50%. it's almost 50% in spain. in the united states, our unemployment rate is about 7.3% but our workforce participation rate is lowest it's been in decades and a disproportionate number of the jobs are at the lower income scale which is why there have been such a big increase in food assistance. working people and working families and their children are qualifying for this now. so i think that aggravates all of the political problems. let's start with that. secondly, i think power has become more diffuse. it's harder to have a tone deaf stayed unresponsive government survive in the age of social media. and the ability of people to go in

when the arab spring ban the in tahrir square. you were there. i don't believe i've ever seen a group of young people who are more impressive, the way they spoke, they used the social media to pull each other out, all that stuff. a lot of them have jobs. the egyptian higher education system produces 400,000 graduates a year, near 400,000 jobs, university graduates proud the egyptian economy. unemployment for young people in greece is over 50%. it's almost over 50% in spain. in the united states, our unemployment rate is without 7.3%, our work force participation rate is the lowest it has been in decades t. disproportionate numbers of the jobs are at the lower income scale, which is why there has been such a big increase in food assistance, working people and working families and their children are qualified for this now. so i think that aggravates the political wealth. secondly, i think power has become more diffuse t. food news is it's harder to have a tone deaf stayed unresponsive government survive in the age of social media. and the act of pe

said our next guest to cairo to meet with egyptian president hosni mubarak at the height of the tahrir squareprising back in 2011. today he is stress stressing the need to keep ties with egypt from further deteriorating and maintain a relationship with those responsible for its future. joining us now is frank wizner. frank held numerous diplomatic posts in a career that spans eight presidents, serving as former u.s. ambassador to egypt, india, zambia and the philippines. ambassador, good to see you here. >> thank you. lou: this is a, a frightful moment for the united states and for this administration. seems every initiative this president has taken in libya, in egypt, and towards syria, has been disasterous and in fact, not only not supporting the interests of the unitedtates, but making bad situations woefully worse. what do you think? >> well, lou, i think we have to be a little bit fair about it because -- lou: i want to be utterly fair about it but i want to be straightforward bit as well. >> the middle east is going through a period of revolutionary transformation. since 2011 we have se

the -- just the dramatic way in which the hope is gone, remember those great demonstrations in tahrir squarerought down mubarak after 30 years of a police state. now, total violence, chaos and where it's going to go is really a big question. ening the reason americans need to care is that we need to decide what are we really for in the region. are we for stability or are we for democracy? we had a democracy there in egypt where they democratically elect add government that didn't do so well. husband limb brotherho muslim brotherhood was a failed movement. military coup is not something all egyptians support and not something we should be supporting. >> don't some egyptians, april 6 movement founder, sort of their arab springs, we don't agree with military rule but we cannot back the radicals. there is no alternative at the moment. i hope one day egypt will have a leader that will look out for the country's interest and not just those of his clique. that sounds like resignation to the status quo. >> we know him, he was featured in the first film with frontline and early 2011. we've been going

in tahrir square, a bunch of young people with modern technology with googling each other and facebookingwho organized. it had to do with a generational revolution of people looking for their freedom, their opportunity and their aspirations to be met. same thing happened in syria. and in syria that opposition was met with violence from assad. and so that is what has happened here. the moderate opposition is in fact committed to democracy. it's committed to protection of all minority rights to inclu incluesive incluesivei inclusivity. this is not about regime change. this is about the enforcement of the standard with respect to chemical weapons. that's what this is about. the president is asking for a limited authority to enforce that standard, not to deal with all of those other issues. >> matt salmon of arizona, chairman of the western hemisphere subcommittee. >> secretary kerry, let me congratulate the president on bringing this matter to the congress. i believe he is constitutionally required to do that. i, for one, am happy that he chose to do this. he said this morning he didn't draw

would say that in the arab spring, in those moments of hope that were represented so clearly in tahrir squaren't effect change. we were talking about this. how do you really do it. but did we support civil society enough in egypt? did we react quickly enough? that was much easier. >> what if we take the point that the president is a learner? sometimes i watch this president when he was my state senator, then senator, now my president. it's not that he doesn't make mistakes but he moves up a learning curve more quickly than most people in public life. is it possible to acknowledge maybe the president or this administration didn't get behind arab spring as quickly or as forcefully as it should but that what he is now doing is powerful foreign policy? >> and you can't underestimate for how this white house the war woorryness underlies everything. it is a backdrop to why the economy suffered far long time and also how we're viewed abroad. this is an enormous thing that weighs over this white house, and the president take that into account on every decision he's making. >> i think that's absolutel

against communism and eventually the european and christian and black world and goes to iran and tahrir squareand tiananmen square. so i think the greatness of the document is as wyatt walker felt an and andrew young put it this way, is a philosophical document that summarizes the christian strain within the civil rights movement. it may not capture sncc but it captures an important part of the movement. it has been read by people around the world who see in king's critique of moderation and civil disobedience and his affirmation of protest kind of a reflection of their own struggles and is all great documents are, they usually read it in the light of their own world so it's all different. u ook at the ga movement there is a very well-known and bisexual web site which basically translates the letter from birmingham jail into what it means for people addressing white moderates. so, the answer is part of its power is its artistry. part of its story is the statement of black defiance and christian forbearance and the other part is that universal words spoken to mankind. >> i think we have time fo

the next steps moving forward in egypt to realize the promise we had hoped for from the event in tahrir square in 2011 that gave way to an increasing, there's going to increasing undemocratic and unsecure and fun for all the egyptians. in iraq have several concerns about a diplomatic relations following a drawdown of u.s. troops, and i'm also disturbed by iraq's failure and i want to underscore our backs failure from my perspective to protect the mek commuting at camp ashraf from camp liberty which resulted in 52 deaths in the kidnapping of seven individuals who remain hostages. and i expect the iraqis to hold the guilty parties responsible for the actions, and also hold the iraqis responsible for the security of those at can't -- camp liberty. i hope the administration will send the same message. finally, on the peace process i support secretary carries efforts in believe that we must continue to keep the palestinians at the table engage in face-to-face negotiations with israel. i applaud israel's courage an agreement to release the prisoners at the outset of negotiations. i hope the palestin

the next ups moving forward in egypt to realize the promise we had hoped for from the events in tahrir square in 2011 that gave way to an increasingly undemocratic and insecure environment for all egyptians. in iraq, i have several concerns about our the dramatic relations following the drawdown of u.s. troops. i am also disturbed by iraq's failure. i want to underscore iraq's failure, from my perspective, to protect the community, which most recently resulted in 52 deaths and the kidnapping of seven individuals who remain hostages. i expect the iraq ease -- iraqis to hold the guilty parties responsible, and i also hold them responsible for the security of those at camp liberty. i hope the administration will send the same message. finally, on the peace process, i support secretary kerry's efforts and believe we must continue to keep the palestinians at the table and engage in face-to-face negotiation with israelis. i have implored israel's courage in agreeing to the release of prisoners, and i hope the palestinians will publicly commit to remaining at the negotiating table and not pursue sta

against communism and eventually the european and christian and black world and goes to iran and tahrir square and tiananmen square. so i think the greatness of the document is as wyatt walker felt an and andrew young put it this way, is a philosophical document that summarizes the christian strain within the civil rights movement. it may not capture sncc but it captures an important part of the movement. it has been read by people around the world who see in king's critique of moderation and civil disobedience and his affirmation of protest kind of a reflection of their own struggles and is all great documents are, they usually read it in the light of their own world so it's all different. if you look at the game movement there is a very well-known and bisexual web site which basically translates the letter from birmingham jail into what it means for people addressing white moderates. so, the answer is part of its power is its artistry. part of its story is the statement of black defiance and christian forbearance and the other part is that universal words spoken to mankind. >> i think we hav

the next ups moving forward in egypt to realize the promise we had hoped for from the events in tahrir squarement for all egyptians. in iraq, i have several concerns about our the dramatic relations following the drawdown of u.s. troops. i am also disturbed by iraq's failure. i want to underscore iraq's failure, from my perspective, to the community, which most recently resulted in 52 deaths and the kidnapping of seven individuals who remain hostages. i expect the iraq ease -- i iraqis to hold the guilty parties responsible, and i also hold them responsible for the security of those at camp liberty. i hope the administration will send the same message. finally, on the peace process, i support secretary kerry's efforts and believe we must continue to keep the palestinians at the table and engage in face-to-face negotiation with israelis. i have implored israel's courage in agreeing to the release of prisoners, and i hope the palestinians will publicly commit to remaining at the negotiating table and not pursue statehood or enhance status to any international bodies while this is going on. only

the democratic urge remains as strong as when they first square. in tahrirtant progress has been made. in libya, the national congress is working towards elections in early 2014. although difficult challenges --ain, yemen has church and chosen reconciliation over violence. tunisia is also focused on and furtherocracy elections are expected in 2014. these nations will undergo more turbulence. that is certain. well functioning democracy cannot emerge overnight. it cannot be exported from the west or dropped on a country from a thousand feet. that much we have learned from the failures of the past. developing the culture and institutions needed, the rule of law, human rights, this is a painstaking process for every country involved. it requires strategic patience from the rest of the world. while the road to democracy is difficult, the direction of travel is set. look, people are standing together against discrimination, for equality. against oppression, for liberty. a wave of openness has emerged. transcending borders and cultures, men and women of every creed

intel rear square, -- squareit was a bunch of young, in tahrir it was a bunch of young people with facebook and so forth who organized a resolution. it was not the muslim brotherhood. it had nothing to do with religion. it had to do with a generation of people looking for freedom, opportunity, and aspirations to be met. the same thing happened in syria. in syria, that opposition was met with violence by assad. that is what has happened here. the moderate opposition is, in fact, committed to democracy. it is committed to the protection of all minority rights, inclusivity, they want elections in syria. i do not want a debate about that because this is not about regime change. this is about the enforcement of the standard with respect to chemical weapons. the president is asking for a limited authority to enforce that standard, not to deal with all those other issues. >> matt salmon of arizona, chairman of the western --misphere committee. subcommittee. >> secretary kerry, let me first congratulate the president on bringing this matter to the congress as i believe he is constitutionally requir