taibbi mr. shellenberger out as the baby is it fair to say russia is a bad actor trying to do everything they can to undermine confidence in the united states government and in our form of democracy? >> yes. are you familiar with the organization in europe the global engagement center? >> yes. >> the state department sorry. are you familiar with the use of sources to and that determined where twitter files sharers should be if you will take them down thousands of names and porter files, correct? >> i'm not sure. the global engagement center taking on twitter files -- [inaudible] >> twitter and the fbi have used this organization and their funding and let me go on to another -- down the path i was on. you commented that scale mattered. could you elaborate on scale mattering in the attempt to undermine free speech? >> absolutely. a great example of this is a report that the global engagement center sent to twitter and to members of the media and other platforms about what they called the pillars o

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however taibbi said neither he nor his accountant received the letters.s not buying it either. listen. >> maybe the fbi will come forward and tell us, oh, just one big coincidence. okay but i kind of doubt it and everyone i talked to about that fact pattern says there is no way this was chance. this had to be deliberate. they were intentionally targeting the guy who elon musk picked to do the twitter files, give us all kinds of valuable information. >> reporter: taibbi found no money owed to the irs, neil. back to you. neil: neil: more after this. because i think we looked... yes. right. yeah. and i don't think at that time- i think you're the one to tell me that we had the same birthday. yes. it's really unbelievable when you think about it, because it's been, like, really over 20 years that you were my mother and father's banker, you became my banker and now .. and you're her banker. it's so unbelievable because i'm just 20 years old. [laughing] if your child has diabetes, you'll love how easy dexcom g7 is. it's on. and, he's off. you can see his glucos

now, taibbi said neither he nor his accountant received those letters. house judiciary chairman jim jordan, he isn't buying it. listen. >> maybe the fbi's going to come forward and tell us, oh it's just one big coincidence. okay, but i kind of doubt it. and everyone i've talked to about that fact pattern says there is no way this was chance. the had to be deliberate. they were intentionally targeting the guy who elon musk picked to do the twitter files and give us all kinds of valuable information. >> reporter: and here's the kicker, liz, taibbi was pound to to owe no money -- found to to owe no money. in fact, irs concluded it owed him money. when we asked the i are rs about all of this this, they old the us federal law prohibits the agency from commenting on taxpayer matters. his? elizabeth: thank you so much. joining us now, congressman jeff van drew and congressman russell fry. gentlemen, it's good to see you. we've never seen in modern history so many whistleblowers stepping forward to talk about malfeasance and corruption. let's first get your reac

is it a coincidence the irs goes after taibbi after he exposes the fbi for its lawlessness. the irs shows up at his house the same day he testifies in front of congress. you would have to be a gullible idiot to not see the connection. it's a partner of abuse by joe biden's government. if you report on corruption, corrupt actors target you. you have seen it with biden's irs. the doj, the fbi, the intel community. they will descend on you you like locusts. they want to frighten and intimidate and silence you. to his greatcrat. -- credit taibbi won't be bullied and the irs moved to punish him for free speech they didn't like. when he exposed it. the irs comes up with lies to cover-up what they had done. this is the same mo at the department of injustice, the fbi. they are like richard nixon's dirty tricksters. compiled an enemy's lsi. -- list. joe biden has one and will sick attack dogs on you when you criticize. >> pete: pam, you were the top cop in florida. common practice on christmas eve on saturday someone faces a probe? >> i wish it was possible to get people out on chris

journalist matt taibbi joins us now. i've been going through the letter that congressman jim jordan sent to the commissioner of irs which lays out the timeline here. i put it up briefly on the screen here. so this was regarding the 2018 tax return. a letter the irs claims was sent to you on october 24, 2019, a second letter was sent to you on march 3rd of 2020. the irs produced neither of those letters to the judiciary committee. examination of your 2018 tax return on christmas eve, 2022, happened to be a saturday, assigned an agent for a face-to-face contact on january 27, 2023, contact initiated the day that you testified before congress. ultimate determination was you didn't owe any money to the irs, in fact, they owed you a substantial refund and the case was resolved a few days later on march 21 of 2023. how are you struck by all of this? >> well, initially i was reluctant to comment about this story because i thought it was possible this was an innocent mistake or a coincidence, but now i don't think there is doubt

the irs opens up an investigation into matt taibbi and his 2018 tax returns on christmas eve, the sameay he blew the whistle on the fbi collusion on twitter. and they also showed up at his house. watch this. >> this was somehow politically motivated, at least it had the appearance of that. this is quite brazen, what they're doing can. they had to know that this was going to come out. also visiting me on my, at my home on the day i'm testifying before congress, that shows you that they're probably not terribly worried about the optics of all this which i think is even more concerning. maria: wow. jim jordan is launch. ing an investigation into this. -- launching an investigation. he told me there's no way this is a coincidence. you also had the irs whistleblower who was removed from the hunter biden tax probe. he testified behind closed doors to the house. what's going on at the irs? >> you know, we saw this same playbook under president obama. remember when they went after tea party groups at the very beginning of the tea party movement. they sic'd the irs on a lot of these tea party g

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matt taibbi, they are going to his house, even though they know he didn't owe anything to the irs. my colleagues are trying to get 87,000 more irs agents hired. i asked him about this question of the history going all the way back when he was with the obama administration. he basically denied it. we asked him what are you putting in place. all he said was we can't discuss it. liz: we do not work for them, they work for us, grover. we see this behavior coming out of what's going on in d.c. a lot of trump voters feel president trump was railroaded. grover, the other thing is, james comer just revealed in the timeline about what happened with this fbi document, the 1023 that allegedly shows vice president biden involved in bribery. thofficials in ukraine in 2020 said they were offered $5 million in bribes to end the probe into the founder of the energy company burisma. the ukrainian official said there was no connection to hunter biden and joe biden. they repeatedly said that. but this is the largest cash bribe ever seized in ukraine. the american people desire of to know before 2024

they opened this file on the reporter, matt taibbi, after his ninth article came out about what was goinggs. okay? >> right. >> that day -- this was the 24th of december. this was a saturday. the irs is working on saturdays normally? this was the night before christmas. this was christmas eve they opened this file. what were they looking for? they were asking for whether he had a concealed carry permit. that's private information, so people don't break into your house and steal things. voter information, you know, how he's registered to vote. all this background, because they claim that four years ago they had a question about his tax return. they claim they'd sent him letters on it. they could not show a single one when the republican leadership in the judiciary committee said please send us the proof of your letters. no letters. and then they showed up, when he was testifying before congress, and they sent an irs agent to his home, just to leave a note, to let him know that we know where you live. this is scary, scary, not usual stuff. >> grover, the irs says the routine process, this i

and you see matt taibbi, michael shellenberger who's on the network quite a lot who runs public, andn twitter files and everything that they've learned from that. i think that one of the things we have to understand is people now pay attention to who these individuals are within the news-making process. they have opinions on them, and there's another element of this too. thanks to social media, that allowed a lot of people to see the privately-held opinions of journalists whose bylines they were reading on much more structured pieces many ways that undermined any kind of view of objectivity. that's had a real impact. howard: they thought they were just talking to their friends. >> exactly. howard: twitter might also be part of this revolution, though it's not clear under elon musk will content creators or be able to make enough money to the make a livingening -- living. >> yeah, and that's one of the big questions moving forward. twitter has tried to roll out these abilities to have really long threads combined into one post, they've tried to make it easier for people to pay and subs

defended them on capitol hill, and interfered with investigations on capitol hill with thabo sefolosha taibbithers, they were targeting individuals and monitoring individuals, we have the fbi threatening parents with that memo that came from the attorney general. we have the attorney general and fbi going after pro lifers, not prosecuting people who are literally vandalizing churches and pro life facilities, people would say, maybe lady justice, the finger is on the scale, i would say they thrthrew it out. >> they degenerated to an arm of the progressive project. they ask in america, if fbi will investigate documents taken out of the white house or vice president's office, by retiring official would they try t treat the democrat the same as a republican? will the fbi monitor our react to that in the same way they did to january 6, will they go after a pro life demonstration in same way they do a pro choice. everyone knows, the answer, it is not symmetrical, they have made a concentrated decision that the power in washington and the popular culture, media and universities, the institutions the

taibbi has issued a waiver for the information. i am asking will you comply with those requests and turn that information over to myself? >> as long as we do it consistently, yes. >> senator blackburn's next. >> thank you, mister chairman and welcome back to us. tacking on to what senator johnson was saying, it is important to note, with the lowest learner scandal taking place at the irs, we are familiar with that because you were brought in to clean that up. when there's the perception vote people are being targeted and anecdotal evidence and that information makes it to us, it does mean we need to question you about this and you know the debacle that was during lowest learner's testimony. i want to return to where i was with you. in the hearing. the $400,000 limit, how you were going to be able to put that in place. how it may affect people who are actually making less than $400,000 a year. as we discussed, i don't think you could give me an example of someone you knew or any profession you knew that would make $400,000 a year th

good with the economy, unemployment, inflation around 2% below 3%, trade deals, meetings with matt taibbime coming back from north korea, all of a sudden donald trump junior had a meeting with somebody linked somehow to a russian official. ambassador haley just in my studio set every time i deal with a world leader there was a sense that donald trump is going to be impeached, they want to know what's going on, the russian officials were laughing at her and saying there's chaos in america. you know we didn't do any of this and she didn't know what to make of it. stuart: you can understand why donald trump is mad as hell and speaking out about it, you understand his anger because these people tried for the four years of his presidency to wreck his presidency, undermine it and undermine america. it was a disgrace, i think it was the worst and dirtiest political trick in my lifetime and i am mad as hell and i understand trump's position. brian: it is anti-american. hillary clinton new about the russian investigation and got him as president-elect and tried to destroy his four years in office

. >> greg: do you want to hear matt taibbi describe his writing?re between a tooth cleaning and watching a fawn die on the side of the road to. [laughter] >> so he didn't like it. >> he didn't like it. >> jesse: this man has totally lost his mind for the media has picked him back up and rehabilitated him. he was fired in a disgraceful act. he destroyed the reputation of the bureau, trump smoked them out for blackmailing him with a fake dossier, kicked him to the curb, he immediately leaks and cooks up this entire two year hoax and sells his rights to what, some publisher? he makes a couple of million. than he writes a novel and the media is coming back why did you like to us for two years, let's help you sell some more books -- now he's claiming the fbi doesn't have it in for republicans -- they spied on trump, they arrested three of his campaign managers and they helped joe biden and they helped hunter. this guy with his outfits and novels, just go away. >> greg: these things never end. what about this document, why are they dragging their feet on

house judiciary committee obtained that document reels irs opened examination into journalist matt taibbi and 2018 tax returns opened this investigation on christmas eve last year he said the same kapublished the report on twitter said they checked to see if he had a hunting fishing license for concealed weapon congressman what is going on? this is corruption in plain sight. >> your friend irs checking to see if you got haunting license if registered to vote a concealed carry permit that is frightening opened investigation as you pointed out saturday, christmas eve december 2022 opened it then, of course, the kicker is they knock on his door the agent comes to his door after first searching -- background search not from door at the very moment he is testifying in front of congress, about how big government and big tech worked to censor american speech if that isn't frightening i don't know what is maybe fbi is telling us one big consequence okay but i kind of doubt it everyoneive talked to about that says there is no way this was chance, this had to be there anybody they were s intentiona

i don't want a journalist like matt taibbi being threatened when randi weingarten gets away with lying and you can was off. >> lawrence: it is interesting democrats talk about dirty cops and now you have dirty cops handed to you on a platter and they have no response. voters thank you. i will head back to you, guys. >> ainsley: excellent job. >> joe: hoe great is that group. >> ainsley: thank you for getting up early and being with us, we'll talk to them again coming up. >> lawrence: ainsley, i had a headline earlier in the show about california, palo alto, talking about gas stoves and we're all from the south and being coo with gas stove, that is how you get a quality meal. now they are making certain exceptions? >> ainsley: what is happening, they said no more gas stoves, there are environmentalists banning this in new buildings and you apply to build a restaurant, you have to have an electric stove. you have celebrity chef andres building a restaurant and said i want my gas stove, so he filed a lawsuit and plans to open. they said, don't sue us and you can have this gas stove. other

journalist matt taibbi was the target of some unusual irs tactics after he uncovered government wrongoing in the twitter files and here's what he told john roberts about that experience. >> i'm curious that they opened an investigation into you on christmas eve of last year, which happened to be a saturday. how many folks at home think that they could ever get in touch with anybody from the irs on christmas eve, particularly on a saturday, yet they're coming an investigation into you. >> yeah, they're opening an investigation into me on saturday, on christmas eve, on the same day that i just released a report about the ties between the fbi and other enforcement agencies and tech platforms, and it was a three-year old case and i didn't owe them any money. so all of those factors combined to make the optics of this really strange. you would wonder what supervisor would be calling an agent on a saturday and asking them to come into work to open up a case on that day. >> trey: which brings us to the fbi. the former director admitted he did something to president trump he would not have ev

>> yeah, well, look, as an example when we on the weaponization committee had matt taibbi there, the irs shows up at his house. how coincidental is that. it's absurd for someone not to know and understand they did it in order to intimidate him. once again, i have to come back to the fbi if i could. i'm a former military officer, i want to protect our country. but when people say it's time to disband the fbi to delegate those authorities to others such as u.s. marshals, there's a growing number of people in congress who begin to feel this way and the reason being is we go back to accountability. they look at what they've done in the last ten years. my gosh, you could go back to martin luther king. if they intend to, how do we plan to stop them and once again, for those who say, you know, maybe the fbi we could delegate those authorities and actually completely defund them, you can understand why american people feel that way about that. maria: yeah, by the way marjorie taylor greene told me that the informant is not missing but he fears for his life. james comer on sunday said that th

have you followed the twitter files story that got the irs to do a full circle new yorking at matt taibbi's door when they found out what was going on behind the scenes of the fbi and others to suppress certain stories? first and foremost was the communication to suppress the hunter biden story. which people seem to just avoid. >> ainsley: i don't know if you don't watch certain networks that are coverage it. i don't know if you would even know about this. remember after the election, we went out, man on the street, and we were interviewing people and saying would it have affected the way you voted if had known about hunter biden's suppression? and people said yeah. maybe. so there was that poll that said 5% or 18% would have voted a different way. i don't remember the number it. would have affected the election. >> steve: good for david barber for cnbc that asked that question that got that answer. >> brian: he didn't expect that answer. what conspiracy theorist stories are true like the laptops that not sitting down talking to mr. levin. is he not a conservative thinker. you don't know th

when they were just-- mike taibbi (voiceover): the state of california >> the state of california knewk rockefeller was also a murder, whose real name was christian karl gerhartsreiter. after all, the case questioned heavily on pieces of circumstantial evidence, 28 years old. >> we were concerned. it was going to take a smart jury to put those together, so we -- >> gerhartsreiter pleaded not guilty, and hired a pair of prominent boston attorneys to defend, by bailey, and jeff figure. >> there was no motive, no reason why he would've done. this >> we are with people versus gerhartsreiter. >> stu when the trial opened, the prosecutor confidently offered a series of friends and neighbors with tales from around the time that john and linda sohus disappeared. jurors, about the bloodstains found years later inside the guesthouse. and then, testimony from a neighbor, suggesting the tenant has been trying to destroy possible evidence. >> i called him and said chris, what are you burning in the fireplace? >> what was his response? >> i am burning carpet. >> when a church friend said the defenda

taibbi, sitting where you are sitting guess what else was happening in the i.r.s. was knocking on his door. get ready. but i know you are up to the task. you came forward in the first place. thank you for your commitment to the constitution, the first amendment, the rule of law, and for your willingness to come forward and tell congress what you've seen, what you've witnessed, thank you for doing that. mr. leavitt, thank you for representing them. we appreciate that. now to the ranking member for an opening statement. >> thank you, mr. chair and good morning. today is our fourth hearing in this select committee. in our previous three hearings, we've heard my republican colleagues and witnesses downplay the danger of extremism in america. suggesting that the 2020 election was stolen, claimed that january 6th was anything other than an attempted insurrection. anything other than domestic terrorism. from what i can glean about today's hearing, i will say glean because my republican colleagues don't really want us to work together. they give us the bare minimum notice

taibbi, one of those award-winning journalists sitting right where you are sitting, was testifying, guess what else was happening? the irs was knocking on his door. so get ready. but i know you are up to the task. because you came forward in the first place. thank you for coming to the constitution, first amendment, the rule of law, and for your willingness to come forward and tell congress what you have seen. what you have witnessed. thank you for doing that. mr. leavitt. thank you for representing him. we appreciate that. now yield to the ranking member for an opening state. -- for opening statement. >> thank you, mr. chair, and good morning. today is our 4th hearing and this select committee. in our previous three hearings, we have heard my republican colleagues and their witnesses downplay the danger of extremism in america. suggesting that the 2020 election was stolen. the claim that january 6 was anything other than an attempted insurrection. anything other than domestic terrorism. from what i can glean about today's hearing -- and i am going to say glean because my republican colle