tal dickstein, really good to have you on the programme. for being with us on talking business. thanks, ben. thanks for having me. we've talked about the growing regulation around ai to limit the impact on artists and musicians. but can ai tools also be a force for good? well, some firms say they're managing to navigate the legalities and offer new tools using ai to make music. one of them is called starman. it's an app that says it's democratising the music making process. kevin westerlund welcome to the programme. and first of all, explain to me how your app works. it allows anyone to just record their voice by either singing or rapping. and then we use different ai technologies to both analyse and enhance what you're singing. so basically anyone is able to create music from scratch with our apps and then release it to a0 plus different streaming services such as spotify, apple music, deezer, etc. the ai, as we see it is, is basically used as a tool to improve what the creators are recording into the app. so almost everything that we have