well, of course, i don't even consider talat hussain a journalist because i don't see his programme onmuch before prime minister imran khan took over his programme, not because of any reason, because he was not getting ratings. in pakistan, the media obviously, like any other media, is commercial — they obviously retain people who get ratings for them and if talat hussain doesn't get ratings, obviously they have to be off—loaded. as i told you earlier, and i would really like to read, because i don't want to be, you know... we have about 112 private channels and 43 national channels. with this kind of theme, the mass media that we have, how can you intimidate media? how can the state be accused of intimidating media? pakistan, if you compare us with any other third world country or you compare it even with the first world, we probably have more free media than the first world. the bbc... i don't know whether you respect us as an independent news organisation. we certainly strive to be independent and impartial. the bbc offered a half—hour urdu news programme to one of your channels. i