now the taliban is trying to turn back the clock. attacks on schools have almost doubled in the last year. >> couric: meanwhile, hard line militants have made headlines in recent weeks. a pregnant woman is lashed and shot, a pair of young lovers stoned public flogging. many women fear if the taliban return to power it will also mean a return to harsh islamic law. and now that the u.s.-backed government of hamid karzai has agreed to negotiate with the taliban in return for ending the war, they're even more fearful. >> history tells us what they want. they don't want girls in the work force, they want girls to stay home. they want absolutely no education for girls. they're not going to back out of their demands. >> reporter: this shelter is one of a handful in the country that offers women a safe haven from physical abuse or rape. recent statistics are grim. violence against women is up 50%. over 60% of marriages are forced. the shelter tries to help women begin a new life, but the odds are stacked against them. qandi was sold into mar

and nato forces and evidently the taliban the new taliban code of conduct urges fighters to avoid killing civilians it forbids them from seizing weapons and money and it aims to limit suicide bombings oh when no torture a ransom of your prisoners that's unless you get the approval of your regional commander however anyone working with international forces including the afghan government aka supporters of the infidels should be killed the taliban began giving out their new code of conduct in southern afghanistan a little over a week ago according to reports just before top nato commander general petraeus issued his guidelines urging soldiers to avoid civilian casualties as well so here to talk about this is matthew hoh former state department appointee who served in afghanistan and former marine corps captain as well matthew thanks for joining us now first of all we've heard reports of both of these codes of conduct issue in this battle of the codes it seems at the same time that you hear reports on both sides that you know just after that after this comes up the taliban kill is killed for

the taliban is clearly trying to run out the clock. let me put something up that was said about timetable. >> they believe that we had stated a date certain. that we were going to leave in the summer of 2011. they went out and spoke to the population and said, the americans are leaving in 18 months, as it was then. what are you doing on the 19th month? we'll still be there and they won't be. >> so that question is out there. so many people are arranging their schedules for 2011. the summer of 2011. my question to you is this. what can general petraeus do to defeat the taliban at their own game? what can he do in afghanistan to avoid the deadline they're setting for themselves? >> i think we need to re-emphasize the message that we are not leaving afghanistan in july of 2011. we are beginning a transition process. and a thinning of our ranks. that will -- and the pace will depend on the conditions on the ground. the president has been very clear about that. if the taliban are waiting for the 19th month, i welcome that. because we will b

the pakistani taliban. now the pakistani taliban targets the pakistanis but the times square bomber went and got trained luckily badly trained, by the pakistani taliban. that's three. fourth, you have the infamous hakani group, a ruthless separate group focused in north wajiristan which is in pakistan but raids all the way into kabul. >> rose: fair enough. >> finally the last group just so that your viewers get the complexity of the situation s a group that the americans don't pay any attention to called the l-e-t but the indians play pay attention because it is they who attacked mum buy in december 2080. >> rose: faced in pakistan. >> all based in an area roughly the size of california in the tribal areas. if that enemy, so to get back to your core question, as the-- as we diminish our combat troops over time according to the continues-- conditions we have to retain the residual capability to strike at these groups while we build up the afghan security forces. the sequencing and the level and pace of all t

a reminder of what taliban rule was.you think about that as there's the prospect of the taliban returning and reconciling becoming a part of this country's future. >> we think about it all of the time. we think about it in the human context which that photograph so horrifically represented and we think about it when it comes to our core objective. it was the taliban that allowed al qaeda to establish its bases and sanctuaries in afghanistan when it controlled a good bit of the country. and that gives big pause needless to say and that's why again this insurgency has to be combatted. >> the bottom line question that i've been thinking about asking you is if we win in afghanistan what do we win? if we lose, what do we lose? >> well, the latter is almost easier because if you lose, it has, i think, some significant repercussions not just for this country although they would be enormous and the start with the cover of "time" magazine for starters and then think about security interest and then think about the region and what

can defeat the taliban? what kind of deal is he willing to make with them? >>> and then, the controversy over the islamic center near ground zero. >> how is that healing? by building a mosque. an in-your-face mosque at ground zero. >> 9/11 was not conducted by muslims. it was conducted by terrorists. >> as the debate rages, the woman behind the islamic center talks to us. daisy khan speaks out exclusively on "this week." >> we want to reach out to those who don't understand us. >> and she'll be joined by a key adviser on the project. >>> and more dismal news on the economy. what happened to the summer of recovery? we'll tackle that and the week's politics, on "the roundtable" with george will, al hunt, robert reich and judy woodruff. >>> and "the sunday funnies." >> we're out of iraq. and best of all, we got out two weeks ahead of schedule. now, iraq will always be remembered as the war that ended early. >>> as the u.s. surge pushes into afghanistan, kandahar has become the focus of the effort to root out the taliban and other insurgent fighters. but with le

on top of fighting the taliban. troops will be tied up with this for months. washington is watching very closely. there are worries that a lasting legacy of the floods could be an even shakier pakistan. bbc news. >> you'll find lots more coverage of the crisis on our website. just go to bbc.com/pakistan floods. 33 miners trapped hundreds of meters underground in chile may not be rescued until december. they have already been stranded for 17 days, but managed to get a message to the surface, saying they are alive and well. a drill is being used to search for them. james robert has the story. >> tears of jubilation and tears a share joy. the 33-presumed dead under tons of earth have just got a message to the surface. they're all still alive 17 days after the mine collapsed. here is of the news came. on a piece of paper wrapped around the drilling probes sent deep into the earth. it says simply, we're fine in the shelter, the 33 of us. for all the families, some beginning to lose hope, enormous relief. >> relief. we're

taliban took responsibility claiming that the aid workers were possible proselytizing and trying to spread christianity but something here just doesn't make sense the taliban doesn't normally attack aid workers and these are people that knew the country and the practices and the cultures very well or earlier i caught up with tim lynch from free range international in jalalabad he personally knew one of these victims stan terry so i first asked him to tell us how the mood there have changed since the news of this attack. it hasn't changed anything. tell you what it's cast a very dark cloud over. the entire community. as there was as i think i've said it's a woman who said what night it's interesting that doctors like that would be killed so we. all everybody is just still stunned well that's i think you did also mention in your blog that this is unprecedented this is not the average practice of the taliban to go around killing aid workers who go out there bravely to help people in need to offer medical assistance so are you skeptical that perhaps the taliban aren't the ones responsible for

taliban stronghold as 10,000 more u.s. troops arrive to drive out insurgents, experts say corruption is their biggest obstacle. >> of all parts of the country, corruption is probably most severe in kandahar city in kandahar province in part because the figure at the top of that network is the president's younger brother. >> reporter: a u.n. survey found half of all afghans paid a bribe last year, spending an estimated $2.5 billion, almost a quarter of the country's economic output. families that earn on average about $425 a year paid an average bribe of $160 to each corrupt official they came across. >> this kind of corruption, and this kind of abuse of power creates serious disaffection on the part of average afghans with the government that's in league with all of this. and that, in turn, creates an opening for the insurgency. >> reporter: and the karzais have been tied to illicit deals with private security companies in afghanistan. >> it is notable that one of the major private security companies in kandahar, waton ris

on top of fighting the taliban. troops will be tied up for months. washington is watching very closely. there are worries a lasting legacy of the floods could be a shakier pakistan. >> more than 1 million people in south africa are still on strike. they are protesting against a government injunction. strikes have close hospitals and schools. -- closed hospitals. >> still fighting, watched by the military, the people who work in the south africa hospitals are on the picket line. many from continuing strike action. but a hospital cleaner ones to stand up to be counted. -- wants to stand up. she took her to her home where she earns $540 a month, a salary that is meant to support a family of 10. >> [unintelligible] that is why i am joining the strike. >> the south african public health system is held to ransom by this strike. business in the hospital where she works, is the defense minister. thinking the military who stepped in to keep [unintelligible] >> we would like the people employed by the hospital to take advanta

taliban. they were fighters but it is not common for the afghan people to accept this type of wahhabiism which is the saudi, arab law that falls into i will sacrifice my life for something greater than myself for god. afghans have always been willing to fight. they are fierce fighters, tribal people. they are willing to give their levers to fight for their country. i have known a lot who fought the soviets and they said if i could have given my life in jihad i would have fighting. but not committing fesurveyed. and i think -- not committing suicide. i think what others in intelligence overseas and in europe are saying is there is this new breed that is blossoming in afghanistan and this is something we should be concerned about. this is something we should take a hard look at and see what is happening. because it is a trend that could get worse in the upcoming years. i think we have seen just in the last year, just this year alone an increase in violence and increase in suicide attacks that we

in one way their presence is help the taliban in another way and well obviously president karzai has decided that the benefits of getting rid of them must just about outweigh the disadvantages myriad of complications affecting the country and its whole even professor at the department of war studies at king's college london many thanks for that. now in his first major interview poland's new president branislav komorowski said he wants to improve relations with russia and has invited president advantage of to visit war so it comes as the polish experts arrive in moscow to continue a probe into the plane crash which killed the previous president and more than ninety others on board they had to see the reports and documents from the investigation into april's air disaster in russia smolinski region a joint investigation group was formed to look into the answer didn't they're interested in whether the pilots were pressured to land in heavy weather conditions that doomed delegation was traveling to mark seventy years since twenty thousand polish officers were massacred gatty. well for man

everyone says taliban but in fact the taliban are i've got it yes this is a civil war that is going onand that the taliban are all part of the will of the afghan people they're also part of the will perhaps of the i saw. the pakistani secret intelligence service but of course perhaps they're part of the will of saudi arabia who is keeping some money to this but in terms of the bodies on the ground people actually doing the work the taliban is part of the will of the afghan people and. the united states and other forces need to recognize same understand that that is part of the afghan people and if you're shooting taliban you are shooting the afghan people this material doesn't paint the behavior of any military group in a nice light there's blood on the whole sides judy thank you very much. in the. wealthy british style it's a small time to write. everything. margetts why not. find out what's really happening to the global economy in the reports on. this is all see coming to life for most have a quick check of the headlines at home foster. smoldering somebody raging forest fires claims

so in a sense his talking to the taliban, the conversations between the karzai government and taliban is in part envoked by the fact that the u.s. is putting a date certain of when we're going to leave. i think that is the pragmatic reason for it. >> rose: joe. >> well, we've put a date certain on when we're going to begin to leave. >> rose: right. >> i think that, you know, the president-- by the way, i talked to the white house fairly regularly about whether they're reconsidering when they're going to do their next, you know, policy review. they're sticking with december now, but they're paying far more attention on a weekly basis because it isn't going well. so they ramped up their attention a little bit. a couple of things about the situation that i need to explain to complicate it some more. first of all, i don't think there's a real chance of the taliban coming back and overthrowing the karzai government. you have in afghanistan many non. pasthan porss forces who represented the alliance in the past and there is a civil war going on there. there will probably be a civil war goin

everyone says taliban but in fact the taliban are afghanis this is a civil war that is going on and that the taliban are part of the will of the afghan people and they're also part of the will perhaps of the i.s.i. the pakistani secret intelligence service and of course perhaps they're part of the will of saudi arabia who is giving some money to this but in terms of the bodies on the ground people actually doing the work the taliban is part of the will of the afghan people and got a nice dates and other forces need to recognize any understand that that is part of the afghan people and if you're shooting taliban you are shooting the afghan people this material doesn't paint the behavior of any military group in you know i fly it has blood on all sides do they not sauced thank you very much. fish fish fish . you know again this is all see the headline it's a small dream salo raging forest fires flame at least twenty eight lives and leaves thousands of people homeless a central russia suffers its first piece weighed in over one hundred years. talks account on the water supplies and rushes f

they do talk to the taliban. they treat taliban fighters like, you know, as part of their policy of neutrality and impartiality. they've been able to do that for the most without incident. but that's strained now. first of all it's not clear necessarily who you're dealing with when you say taliban. it's a more complicated organization that has some divisions, younger commanders who are coming up who maybe don't follow the guidance that they're getting from the government to leave groups alone. >> brown: one last brief question, rod. i gather some of these families of the americans have asked that the bodies eventually be buried in afghanistan. but they may be flown to the u.s. for autopsies. what do you know about that? >> that was what we heard earlier today. the american embassy put a statement out later on saying that the f.b.i. is looking into whether or not they would bring the bodies back for autopsy. so i think some of families or some of their loved ones feel very strongly that their roots were in afghani

so if we want to defeat al qaeda, we have to fight the taliban because if the taliban come back into power, they will invite their friends in al qaeda to once again use afghanistan as the base from which to attack us. so that's why we have to... we were talking about the difference between counterinsurgency and counterterrorism. and in some ways we have fairly narrow countertryst goals in afghanistan to counteral qaeda. but the only way we're going to achieve those goals is implementing a broader counterinsurgency strategy this counters the taliban. >> rose: do you sense there's a growing questioning of this war in the body politic of america? >> sure, all you have to do is look at the fact that more than 100 lawmakers voted against the appropriation. you have to... you see the public opinion polls. there's an impatience. people want to see results and it's hard to see results on a counterinsurgency because you can't point to figures on a map and say "our forces have advanced and we've taken this objective. skwots there's an impatience. but i think that general petraeus, my reading o

at that time, the tower overlooked the taliban front line.base it overlooks represents the heart of u.s. power and commitment to afghanistan. >> crumpton: this does look a lot different. you have glass. ( laughs ) >> logan: that's right, there's glass. >> crumpton: there's glass. there's no shell fragments laying around. >> logan: did it even cross your mind when you were here then what it would look like? >> crumpton: no, i didn't. we were focused on the enemy and the intelligence collection, the covert action, and getting to kabul. >> logan: and, officially, you weren't here. >> crumpton: that's correct. >> logan: today, the u.s. presence in afghanistan has surged by 30,000 more soldiers. and we wanted to hear from hank crumpton and amrullah saleh, two experienced veterans of the afghan fight, what they think about where the war is heading. >> crumpton: we still have a window of opportunity that has not closed. but it is more difficult, because the taliban, well, they've gained ground. and it's frustrating, because we are fighting for the s

i would also think about talking directly to the taliban. i don't assume and i don't understand why the administration assumes that if elements of the taliban regain footholds in afghanistan as they surely will. why do we assume they are necessarily going to make the same decision they did last time and bring back al qaeda? it's quite possible that many of the taliban can be persuaded not to get back into bed with al qaeda. that ought to be something we explore. >> smith: the part of that partnering up again with the taliban brings the fear of the kind of ruthless rule that pervaded there for the longest time. everyone saw the picture of "time" magazine this week-- a woman whose ears and nose were cut off. we can't prevent that in the long term in the future, but if we're not there in a significant way, doesn't that leave that vacuum for the taliban to move back in again? >> some of that, unfortunately, is going to happen in those areas that the taliban once again prevail in. i don't like it. on the other hand, i don't think, harry, we can a

everyone says taliban but in fact the taliban are afghani yes this is a civil war that is going on and that the taliban are part of the will of the afghan people and they are also part of the will perhaps of the i.s.i. the pakistani secret intelligence service and of course perhaps that part of the will of saudi arabia who is giving some money to this but in terms of the bodies on the ground people actually doing the work the taliban is part of the will of the afghan people and. the united states and other forces need to recognize same understand that that is part of the afghan people and if you shooting taliban you are shooting the afghan people and. that doesn't mean that they they don't have blood on their hands as well we added up from the number of i.e.d. events represented the material exploded explosions of the brain providing supposed devices and over two thousand civilians were killed by i.d.'s. and explosive devices placed on the road to blow up a passing convoy bot. an afghan family processing they will go off and blow them up so this material doesn't paint the behavior of a

he warns -- he was a target for the taliban and warned they may come back. >> maybe the taliban will come back here, and those people will go and work again with the taliban. >> the army is busy directing relief efforts, a massive task on top of fighting the taliban, and troops will be tied up with this for months. washington is watching closely. there are worries a loasting legacy could be an even shakier pakistan. >> at least 32 people have been killed in separate bombings in northwest pakistan. 17 people were killed in a meeting. three people died in a blast. the most serious was in south waziristan. two spanish aid workers released by al qaeda militants in north africa were returned to spain after a grueling ordeal in the sahara desert. they were kidnapped in november while delivering supplies to villages. in washington they have temporarily blocked the funding of human embryo stem some research, which president obama had authorized. many hoped the research could lead to treatments for a number of serious conditions. survivors of the siege in the philippines in which aid tourists

the taliban is operating from within pakistan from safe havens. caved cameron said this as reported by the "financial times" on wednesday. the u.s. prime minister used his first public appearance to warn pakistan to stop promoting terror or face isolation in the international community. the intelligence service from pakistan was helping the afghan taliban. is pakistan working against our interest there? >> i said for a long time clearly that a critical key to success in the region is going to be pakistan and our relationship with pakistan, which was one that was broken in the late '80s and in which we worked hard to restore. there are elements of the pakistani intelligence agency that are connected or have had relationships with extremists is certainly known and that has to change. i just came back from my 19th trip to pakistan since i've been in this job spending time particularly with military leadership and he has actually directed his military to take on the insurgent threat in his own country. he's made great strides. we recognize that part o

everyone says taliban but in fact the taliban are i've gone these this is a civil war that is going onand the taliban pot all the will of the afghan people now they're also part of the will perhaps of the i.s.i. the pakistani secret intelligence service and of course perhaps they're part of the will of saudi arabia who is giving some money to this but in terms of the bodies on the ground people actually doing the work the taliban is part of the will of the afghan people and. the united states and other forces need to recognize any understanding that that is part of the afghan people and if you're shooting taliban you were shooting the afghan people this material doesn't paint the behavior of any military group in it and i slide there's blood on that on all sides judy thank you very much. the vote for bush. but it always adds by one vote for kerry. so the people that are going to be validating this machine can stand there all day long and vote for somebody and it will be right every time but the guy can walk up here and if he hits the right buttons. you can flip the vote there you go to

if the taliban meant to send a message that anyone traveling with a faith-based organization could be killed, it could mean a lot less aid the afghan people, who physicians say badly need the medical help. >> i would think twice about going again. >> he is a bay area pediatrician who taught doctors in kabul in 2007. he realizes the situation for aid workers has become extremely dangerous, especially those with religious organizations. he was with a christian aid group at the time but states that didn't mean they were there to preach. >> i was there with a faith-based organization about we weren't there to leave behind christianity. i'm not there religious. we were there to leave behind medical knowledge and medical tech knowledge. >> dr. chan acknowledges it's the nongovernmental organizations and religious groups who have stepped up to provide medical aid, teachers and relief workers to these countries, but the taliban believed they were preaching christianity. >> i'm thinking of the hundreds of local afghans on the waiting lists for necessary operations, to correct their vision or h

the size of the amount of money that drugs bring in in this country over a billion dollars and the taliban are estimated to to accrue some three hundred million dollars that's a year which makes up some forty to sixty percent of their annual income according to nato figures so if they're fighting the taliban the taliban are largely reliant upon money from this drugs trade so it would seem to be a total no brainer to suggest the americans try to cut off this funding counter-narcotics doesn't always involve simply destroying the crops spera might well be the farmers a strong are reliant on large areas on growing poppy so it's not simply a matter as what was used in vietnam sort of using chemical weapons against these fields border security is element to it removing the dumond back of the border in other countries whether it's in the west or and elsewhere but there are many ways to reproach account not politics tragedy but it would seem that destroying people's fields is the most blunt and the easiest way to lose any form of hearts and minds you might have in afghanistan well brian backer dir

and for the last thing we have received information about the taliban making a proposition to nato to jointly investigate civilian deaths in afghanistan just how realistic and serious is that. no i don't think it's serious i mean i'd like to say that the taliban movement is quite formal a structure it is basically a successor to the mujahideen movement that was active during the soviet military presence in afghanistan it has not changed much since then the way propaganda is spread hasn't changed either and i would regard this offer as part of a propaganda war the taliban is obviously winning it by the way it's obviously being the us as for the offer itself even if the u.s. or nato was to agree to it i don't think the taliban would play an active role in the investigation of these unpleasant and difficult incidents the first couldn't they have been to stanley because sap than in afghanistan or pakistan is affecting other countries including russia but could russia. secure regina in this region particularly. if no single stakeholder in the region will be able to do anything on their own

killings by the taliban have also gone up quite a bit here. that's right alone according to this u.n. report that was released the taliban and anti-government elements otherwise known as militants are responsible for three quarters of the deaths and injuries that have fallen upon the afghan civilians a number that as you mentioned is increasing now the u.n. report indicates that the taliban has increased its efforts using i e d's and roadside explosive also have increased the amount of assassinations on civilians that have taken place but this is all come as a result of the troop surge that has taken place in afghanistan so the for the more foreign for foreign troops that have entered that country the more violence comes from the taliban and other militants so it's it turns out that more foreign troops is leading to more deaths of afghan civilians so it's not like they can start pointing fingers at the taliban and that they didn't know what else about these figures is really alarming. well alone what these figures indicate is a clear human cos

story recently broke where american marines were baptized to camp pendleton preparing to fight the taliban which was then takes up by jihadi website so our afghanistan veteran jake deliberate oh what he thinks of the story and if u.s. troops do come under pressure to hold christian beliefs and is the latest medal of honor a video game is said to be released some people are up in arms the one of the options is to play as the taliban all chat with churchill about this game to see if it is just a game or if it's simply too offensive also we'll tell you about a group of faces discrimination when it comes to employment the transgender community will hear it firsthand from one person about the difficulties the transgender transgenders face in today's society and it's friday so we're doing a mash up of the week's events bill o'reilly takes on jennifer aniston and a new poll shows that americans find an affair more offensive than capital punishment so we're going to get comedian stephen smith two cents on that issue but now let's move on to today's top story. in the world is the world's youth goin

to resolve some issues with the taliban. as we move into reconciliation or reintegration, this factor will become more important. the last point i would like to make is that whatever may have been of pakistan's ambitions in the past, those have been scaled down drastically. they have been scaled down in afghanistan, and within the country. the most important factor to pakistan today is the economy. that will take center stage. all policies will recalled around recovering" we have lost in making it sustainable. -- recovering what we have lost in making it sustainable. >> i want to get steve it to focus for a moment on afghanistan, and the strategy there. you in short critique of the strategy suggested it was placed on two false or at least shaky assumptions. one that office skippable playing its role the reassigned, and second, that the taliban would be prepared to break with the taliban -- one, that afghanistan would be capable of playing its role that we assigned. i wonder how you view the u.s. strategy at the moment? are y

had tiings to the taliban. and we've always known that afghanistan, and the karzai government, had corruption issues. but this puts into the public's sphere something that the administration has been talking about. people have been talking about behind closed doors. now it's all out there. and what was also really interesting, i think about those leaked documents, is the gran later that you suddenly saw -- the granularity that you suddenly saw. we talk to soldiers and go to afghanistan ander intview people and they know how to talk to us and you get a certain level of openness. but for the first time, we were seeing soldiers talking to each other. and that, you no, it really brings front and center just how difficult this whole afghanistan campaign has been and still is. chris: let me ask you, kim, welcome to the show and you got hurt very badly and you know about this war front situation and out covering for a.p. this leak story. thousand do you think it hurts the policy -- how do you think it hurts the policy

the fighters were masked with taliban locations and a christian bible which the taliban claimed was proof that the group was spying and spreading christianity. >> secretary of state hillary clinton called the mission solely humanitarian and libby little, home in new york for the birth of the first grandchild she and tom couldn't wait to see, said her husband and his group were in a remote province for one reason only. >> there's no proselytizing, there was no efforts to convert. they were working like crazy. caring for people. there. if you've ever been on one of these things, there's no time for anything other than caring for the sick. >> and the afghanistan government investigating the killings said the motive is not clear and the u.s. ambassador isn't blaming the taliban yet. >> we don't know whether they're responsible or whether they're simply taking credit for the cowardly and despicable acts of others. >> meanwhile, libby awatsz the imminent birth of her granddaughter. >> and somebody we'll tell her she can be proud of the grandpa she never got to see. >> with his death, mill