ask about the taliban i mean the taliban are just sitting pretty well i mean they're there waiting and confident as we just heard. and i agree with you the problem is that it's the same problem that pre-surgery iraq faced which is if the whatever you want to call the director contacts the insurgency in this case the taliban or the neo taliban if they know that there's an exit date they will go underground and as you say six pretty and as you were talking earlier all of these all of the roads to dealing with the taliban go through pakistan and if pakistan is not on board then the taliban aren't going to be on board the taliban and if pakistan wants to cooperate then there's a degree to which they can force the taliban's hand maybe not completely maybe not on the afghan side of the border although probably on the afghan side of the border but they could definitely definitely change the security environment now that question of what to do about pakistan and whether or not their withdrawal from the conference will make it as some people have said utterly meaningless to discuss afghanistan'

through pakistan and if pakistan's not on board then the taliban aren't going to be on board the taliban and if pakistan wants to cooperate then there's a degree to which they can force the taliban's hand maybe not completely maybe not on the afghan side of the border although probably on the afghan side of the border but they could definitely definitely change the security environment now that question of what to do about pakistan and whether or not their withdrawal from the conference will make it as some people have said utterly meaningless to discuss afghanistan's future is a different question and frankly europe and the u.s. might have to begin to more explicitly place pressure on the pakistanis to investigate a number of options that they potentially have not so much on the cutting assistance side because the west does have a legitimate interest in making sure for instance that pakistan's nuclear weapons are secure but there's a number of creative options that could be investigated among them allowing india to begin to fill some of the security vacuum that's going to be left by the

and there is an afghani taliban and pakistani taliban, we still have troops on the ground taking bullets taliban, what does that say, okay, we're going to withdraw. and it goes back to taliban control in afghanistan that is the way it is. >> it ain't great. if biden hasn't said that yet he probably will. what i remember from the taliban they don't necessarily leave afghanistan. they aren't coming over to our towers. al-qaeda has been decimated over there. that you can look at as a victory. while the government is horribly corrupt, it's still a working semi government. so i'd rather negotiate with the taliban to stay there five years. taliban is not very mobile. >> monica: let's talk about a bigger foreign policy picture issue which is the idea of entrench. so all the u.s. troops are out. will re-trenching pretty soon from afghanistan. we have these massive defense cuts coming down the pike which the president said he is not going to fight. he wants a trillion dollars gutted from the pentagon over ten years. we can debate iraq and afghanistan but when you put it altogether there is disput

we took the taliban government down.ad allowed al-qaeda embed throughout their administration, they were just as guilty. if they got back in power they would be base of operations for other terrorists in the future. >> greta: we have an aider and abettor you are as guilty as principal? >> but in afghanistan, pakistan and taliban, what they pose as a threat. and taliban like organization could take control of pakistan and get hold of the arsenal of nuclear weapons. >> greta: the taliban to go up with karzai and make some kind of workable government. that was one of the failed hopes. that was a bad idea. >> in this part of the world you don't buy your ally, you rent them. there are elements here you could deal with if we had negotiators that i trusted i wouldn't mind that. the hard-core and ideology they bring to the table is our enemy. that is what caused 9/11. let's not forget that. >> greta: ambassador, thank you. coming up donald trump now scaring the republicans running for president? we have the numbers that will tel

needs pakistan for a political settlement in afghanistan to bring the taliban on the table but we have to understand that the leverage that pakistan has and also today u.s. dependence on on pakistan will diminish just down the road and one or two years we know that they use needed pakistan to cooperate against al qaeda but osama bin laden is killed many of our senior al qaeda leaders are killed already and their operations are disrupted significantly inside pakistan and also as the military footprint is that menacing in afghanistan so well be dependent on pakistan so in the near future can put more pressure on pakistan and i believe that it will. pursue a tougher line with the pakistani government and the pakistani military and the i.s.i. does not change its probe militant policies ok robert i go back to you i got to go back to that article that you wrote pakistan going rogue you wrote at the very end of it the u.s. has far more at stake in pakistan than it does in afghanistan can you explain that because it's very interesting in light of what a lot of republican candidates have been s

to separate the taliban out from the radical leadership to the taliban local area.ere when we leave. this was a straightforward message. leaving that aside, the taliban will always be in afghanistan. can you separate them from the radical lead everyship? you are too quick to jump on it and not understand context of what is going on. >> dana: if you don't have troops there, you better hope they are not the enemy. how many taliban are there? do we know? there is such an impact on our world in afghanistan. where none of us are planning vacation. >> bob: sympathetic to the taliban or members of the taliban? there is a difference between fighter and supports but probably half a million. >> eric: are you trying to say, not only can you separate the taliban from the radical fundamentalists and those who are not sympathetic to al-qaeda who we know want to kill us? >> there is a taliban presence in afghanistan well after we leave. is it radicalized or isolated in the southern part of the country? and part of the country karzai trying to put together. to keep it out of the --

and also helping the afghan national army which is not able to defend against the taliban on its own exactly where we're going to go back to the pakistanis saying they're not going to go to the bond conference i mean how much of a slap in the is a real slap in the face or do something symbolic at this point in time because pakistan is very confident that there will be some kind of settlement and they'll be a big player in it they can walk away from this conference right now with confidence that at least giving the americans noticed that the public opinion purposes at home they have to be listened to more in an apology is needed more than an apology for what happened at their border crossing. here i think the pakistanis can fairly securely walk away from this conference at the end of the day if that is all a part of participants in this process such as it is or equal pakistan has a great deal more weight at the table and an international process to try to bring about a political solution in afghanistan that does not include pakistan is a process that is going to go absolutely nowhere

taliban army. detainee is wanted by the u.n. for possible war crimes including the murder of thousands of shiites. >> i'm very dubious that the inner circle of mula omar and other afghan taliban leaders has any interest in compromise and i'm a little worried that we delude ourselves into thinking we're headed down a successful path or make them think we're showing signs of weakness. reporter: mohammed fasal turned himself into the northern alliance in november, 2001 proclaiming a desire for peace. weeks later he was captured at the prison where a riot broke out in november and cia operative mike span was killed, the first u.s. casualty of the war. he is a legend in pentagon corridors. military officials have been tight limited about the proposed release of fasal. "the united states continues to support an afghan led process of reconciliation that would end the insurgency. we in the afghan government have been clear about the conditions that would need to be met. insurgents would need to break from

taliban jan i think he says. so that of course makes them suspicious because at some point there's going to be some secret deal. karzai will handle thing elsewhere because he's posh to. so yes, there's massive suspicion on both sides, but i still come back to my basic point, which is the war is not right, c. have to find an alternative. and you have to train and the civil war. perhaps that may be what happens happened sonatas by an pessimistic about that. what may happen eventually as the u.s. will pull out, leave a few thousand troops behind, described the trainers and then the afghan civil war will continue and the kind of comforting psychological line for everybody or to adopt because you there for 10 years, 12 years, try to bring good governance across the constitution and then these people look at them and their chests fighting each other like they did in 1993. >> is it possible that we could pull out, support karzai's war, maybe to 24 and he could survive at least in the near-term as you depict in this book

injuring over seventy people a suicide bomber is said to have used a truck packed with explosives the taliban has already claimed responsibility for the attack. began to other headlines here in our t.v. the u.n. says the syria crisis has become a civil war with daily watch it resulting in more than four thousand deaths and nine march this comes as the e.u. ramps up pressure on the country with more financial and energy sanctions. egypt is holding its breath as it awaits the results of an opening stage of its first parliamentary elections this find of fact many doubt it will bring any real change protesters are demanding the military rulers step down and make way for a civilian government. thousands of protesters take to the streets of new york to stage a labor union rally demanding jobs and economic justice the latest demonstration comes on the back of occupy protests that swept through the us for more than two months l r t peter lavelle and his panel of experts discuss the deteriorating state of pakistan u.s. relations and what impact it could have on nato troops in afghanistan crosstalk is

was pushing qatar to open a taliban office. >> next up, so, sending taliban detain ayes to afghanistanng our national security into a danger zone? what do you make of this development, sir? >>guest: if the issue is just releasing the detainees or engaging in talks with the taliban that could have logic but the problem is releasing the we taliban, hoping that the mother ship is going to negotiate in the future is a -- is illogical because they will show the recruits you can get the united states to release detainees without a commitment by the taliban to make reform or accept a future political agreement. >> what has been the history here of releasing taliban detainees in the past? what have they been done? >>guest: they have been released in afghanistan or gitmo and did not containing their ideology and most of those were reinserted we and the men killed allies or americans. >> how concerned are you about this? >>guest: i am concern about what is happening now, the administration is pushing for "ending the war," not "winning" and to end the war you make concessions and release the tali

the pakistanis have it within their power to control the afghan taliban that if if pakistan were only willing that it could remove the safe havens and they could essentially deliver the the different elements of the insurgency to the negotiating table and fortunately that too is is incorrect the pakistanis could certainly be more helpful than they have been in recent years but they can't deliver these people these people pose a threat a tremendous threat to pakistan itself and is a threat that the pakistanis cannot by themselves control but it kind of it is echo what robert was saying right there i mean would you be the pakistani taliban that their card up their sleeve when the americans leave because again we keep going around in circles here is that pakistan wants to determine the future of afghanistan and make sure that it's a friendly state and this is the great dilemma here and going off with roberts and also when it will the presence of an american american troops there still be a big barrier for is what i'm about to get their way and eventually in afghanistan . well as i mentio

only the taliban knows where they are. so ricky cautionly leads the way with his metal detector. >> finally, ricky reaches the spot where the hidden bomb is supposed to be. >> basically there is one ied, and it's marked off with a log. and this sign right here, it says there's a bomb. >> the farmers who called in the bomb show up to help out. >> when the taliban came here he told him to don't put the ied near the house, and he says i don't like you put ied in here because there is my house, but on this route there is a big ied where taliban put it. he says i know we are the taliban and they put the fire crews on the ied. >> okay. where? can he show us? >> i have something for him to market with. >> if i give them lights, we can go back down at the roadblock. not on it, but near it. >> i am getting these duds to mark the area. hold on. ricky asked one of the farmer to mark the bomb and the fuse that would detonate it. >> when the farmer goes to mark the detonator, he freezes. >> hey, he is afraid if he throws it, it's going

under the taliban, afghan women were trapped at home, and educated and employed. move forward 10 years and they make up half of the work force at this company where they toiled alongside men. this woman says she is proud to be the breadwinner for her younger brothers. the company's founder worries about the outlook if there is reconciliation with the insurgents. >> none of the taliban have come forward to say i am a moderate and i believe differently. we are fully ourselves if we believe that the taliban have changed their mandate, their view has changed, their philosophy has changed. they have not changed. -- we are fooling ourselves if we believe that the taliban have changed. >> there are big plans for this business. they hope to begin exporting to the u.s. and europe and eventually creating a few hundred jobs. all of this might be possible in the future of the future is not shaped by the taliban. in the areas under their control, women are still voiceless and defenseless. this woman is 25. her final moments are captured arfthis footage which emergedfoe rfo the

who is pushing for this reconciliation with the taliban? >>reporter: essentially the white house, it is not coming from the military. vice president joe body were said in recent days that the taliban are thought our enemy. that raised certain eyebrows at pentagon. fm news has confirmed part of the reconciliation deal that the white house is considering would be the release of taliban commander and half a dozen top taliban commanders, who are among the first prisoners at gitmo, captured shortly after 9/11 when u.s. forces teamed up with the northern alliance to overthrow the taliban. and he is considered a high risk detainees the deputy defense chief and is wanted for murder of thousands of afghan shiite muslims between 1998 and 2001 as the taliban commander. trace? >>trace: what about the reaction from the pentagon and the intelligence community? >>reporter: they are remaining tightlipped because this initiative is coming from the president. but, pentagon spokesman george little said and i quote, "the united states continues to support an a

there is not one taliban. there is five or six talibans. at least one or two of the taliban groups are closely allied with the pakistani government. so there are a lot of moving parts here and a lot of questions but i don't see where the leverage is and i don't see where the incentives are particularly for the taliban because they know we're leaving by 2014. there are rumors --. jamie: or sooner. >> or sooner there are president obama may want a more rapid withdrawal of u.s. forces. when i was in afghanistan they would click their bear wrists and they would say, america, you've got the watches. we've got the time. and that's turning out to be true. >> one of the requirements of these negotiations is that the taliban would have no affiliation with al qaeda. >> yeah. jamie: is that realistic? >> well, yes, because again there are five or six taliban groups much some don't have affiliation with al qaeda. some very definitely do. when i was in afghanistan last time i talked to one of the senior afghan leaders off the record and he said, you kno

forces toppled the taliban 10 years ago.kabul, we have a report. >> fashioning a new future for themselves and their country. every stitch, testament to a fragile freedom. under the taliban, afghan women were trapped at home, uneducated and unemployed. move forward 10 years, they make up half the work force, and here at a kabul design company they toil alongside men. this woman says she's proud to be the breadwinner for her two younger brothers. but the company's founder worries about the outlook, if there's reconciliation with the insurgents. >> many of the taliban have come forward to say i'm a moderate and i believe differently. we're fooling ourselves if we believe that taliban has changed their mandate has changed, their view has changed and their philosophy has changed, you know. because they haven't claimed they've changed and they're going to be different. >> there are big plans for this business. the hope is to begin exporting to the united states and europe, eventually to create a few hundred jobs here. all of that

negotiations between the government and the taliban have been stalled ever since. president hamid karzai said on thursday that an office for the taliban should be set up in afghanistan, if the security situation permits. other possible locations include islamic countries such as saudi arabia or turkey. the taliban has vowed to continue fighting and says it will not engage in peace talks until all foreign troops have left afghanistan. it's not yet known whether the taliban will agree to karzai's proposal. >>> and staying in afghanistan, a notorious arena with a bloody history has been reborn a symbolic stadium of hope. the war-torn country reopened a sports venue in kabul that was previously better known as being a site of public executions under the taliban. the capital's ghazi stadium officially reopened on thursday, to great fanfare. during the taliban regime that lasted from 1996 to 2001, the only events that could be seen here were executions, stoning and mutilations. >> translator: the taliban and their supporters were trying to show their power here by passin

for the crime of adultery, the taliban stoned her, then shot her dead. this woman is another of their targets. she is a prominent member of parliament who survived a taliban ambush on her car last year. this outspoken activist refuses to be silenced, but she fears that afghan women could soon be abandoned by the international community, which promised them so much. >> they have turned from the women's issues, and they're saying goodbye. we have been an outspoken about what we want. >> her eldest daughter is studying hard. she wants to be an aerospace engineer, but she and her younger sister are afraid for themselves and their mother. they want a future outside of afghanistan. >>> and heading to hollywood? >> for many indian actors making the move to hollywood has been difficult. a very high-profile indian actor recently made a mission impossible film. he does not have a big part, of being cast in a hollywood franchise is seen as a significant move forward. >> he shot to international fame after playing quizmaster in "slump of a millionaire -- slum dog mi

negotiations between the government and the taliban have been stalled ever since. president hamid karzai said on thursday that an office for the taliban should be set up in afghanistan, if the security situation permits. other possible locations include islamic countries such as saudi arabia or turkey. the taliban has vowed to continue fighting and says it will not engage in peace talks until all foreign troops have left afghanistan. it's not yet known whether the taliban will agree to karzai's proposal. >>> and staying in afghanistan, a notorious arena with a bloody history has been reborn a symbolic stadium of hope. the war-torn country reopened a sports venue in kabul that was previously better known as being a site of public executions under the taliban. the capital's ghazi stadium officially reopened on thursday, to great fanfare. during the taliban regime that lasted from 1996 to 2001, the only events that could be seen here were executions, stoning and mutilations. >> translator: the taliban and their supporters were trying to show their power here by psing

it is not really nato policy to eradicate all vestiges of taliban influence and control. in the 1990s, what is the shadow taliban's attitude toward delivery of improvement in education and health services to afghans that you document on a national basis? what is actually going on in these critical areas? >> it is a somewhat mixed picture. one of the things that i have found most interesting over the last couple years is where services -- let's take schools for example. the taliban started burning a lot of schools in 2007-2009 period. we learned two things. one is there is a great program called the national solidarity program which is one of the most successful programs that has been undertaken in afghanistan. and basically what it does is to give a grant to communities that are forced to create these community development cal's tools with representation on them and the community is the one that decides which project it wants and which funding and have to contribute from their own resources. it turns out the schools that were built through those processes don't get burned

under the taliban afghan women were trapped at home, uneducated and unemployed. to move forward 10 years, they make up half the workforce and is booming. a kabul design company where they toil alongside men. she says she is proud to be the breadwinner for her two younger brothers. but the company's founder worries about the outlook if there's reconciliation with the insurgents. >> none of the taliban have come forward to say i'm a moderate and i believe differently. we're fooling ourselves if we believe that taliban has changed their mandate and their view has changed and their philosophy has changed, you know? because they have not said they have changed and they are going to be different. >> there are big plans for this business. the hope so begin exporting to the united states and europe and eventually to create a few hundred jobs here. all of that might be possible in the future if the future isn't shaped by the taliban. >> in areas under their control women are still voiceless and defenseless. this is sedeka, 25 years old. her final moments are captured in t

they will be responsible for combating taliban militants. unemployment is at a staggering 40% and many people still live in poverty without access to clean drinking water. the international community wants commitments from afghan leaders to improve conditions in the country, especially when it comes to tackling corruption and their growing drug trade. my colleague, melinda, was at the conference monday in bonn she sat down with time and karzai to talk about the challenges the country is facing. >> mr. president, a pleasure to welcome you on behalf of dw- tv. this is a very symbolic date. what has this meeting produced beyond symbolism? >> symbolism is very important. beyond symbolism, this meeting produced, for afghanistan, a few things. the first thing was that i got, on behalf of the afghan people, an opportunity to thank the people of germany for all that germany has done for afghanistan. for a long time now, but especially the past two years, and also to thank germany for bringing us again to bonn to reflect on the past and think of the

. >> is it time to talk with the taliban? the obama administration moving forward with a plan and now we know it could involve handing over a high profile detainee from guantanamo bay. tonight, the inside deal to save afghanistan. california burning, arson fires ripping through hollywood that's my house, my home, i live there i could have died. >> harris: one very famous home among the targets. >> this is is a very active situation. >> harris: tonight, the hunt for a fire bug. fox news is america's election headquarters. we begin tonight with the countdown to the iowa caucuses. i'm harris faulkner in tonight for shepard smith. today an incredibly important day for the campaigns and those trying to shore up support before tuesday's first in the nation presidential contest. the latest poll from nbc news and marist showing former massachusetts governor mitt romney duking it out with texas congressman ron paul for the top spot in iowa. former pennsylvania senator rick santorum surging into third place while former house speaker n

we don't have contact with the taliban.he pakistani government is the only group that has contact with them. they have to tell us whom to negotiate with. is it really from your experience, is it pretty clear that at the end of the day it is the pakistani government that has that kind of connection with the taliban? >> well, our efforts for peace, our cries for peace, our understanding of peace was that we were talking to the taliban. the assassination of president rabbani brought us in a shock to the recognition that we were actually talking to nobody. that those who came in the name of the peace process were assassins, were killers, were terrorists rather than negotiators. a man who came in the name of a messenger for peace turned out to be a suicide bomber. therefore, we have now clearly said that we will welcome a taliban address, but that address must have the clarity that this representative is authorized and is representing the taliban movement as we see it. the question of pakistan is important here because we all kn

the taliban had been ousted in the wake of the 9/11 attacks. there was talk of rebuilding shattered infrastructure and restoring human rights to groups such as women. fast forward to today, and world leaders are about to gather in bonn to discuss hopes for the next few decades. those hopes remain just that, hopes. women still face huge problems in their everyday lives. >> this is kabul today. large areas of the afghan capitol remain undeveloped. many homes do not have electricity. donkeys are used to haul firewood to homes on the hills. but not everyone is pour. wealthier districts are packed with shops selling a variety of goods. kabul is a mirror of afghan society. men dominate the public sphere, from politics to the workplace. women are marginalized. many where the full length gurkha -- burkha, as they did when the taliban were in power. young women here are gathering for their first lesson in activism. >> look here, it is all green here. there is a bridge down there so you can cross our river. everything is peaceful. piece is the most wonde

and the taliban. is that the case?he verge of peace talks that could end the war in afghanistan? we're going to talk to an expert who knows the region and the players very, very well. he's coming up next. >>> plus, nasty weather you don't want to see at one of the busiest travel times of the year. a monster blizzard's impact on christmas getaway plans for millions of americans. jenna: fox news alert. wanted to keep you up to date with what is happening. the former andrews air force base, you can see the president and vice president there. this is a ceremony marking the return of u.s. forces from iraq. a plane that just arrived was holding lloyd austin, and 29 people. they are returning the colors from the iraq war. they will be held at the center for military mystery. we will bring you any news out of this event. you can watch it live on foxnews.com. jon: after ten years of fighting the taliban in afghanistan vice president joe biden says the taliban is not really the enemy. according to reuters the obama administratio

is the taliban our enemy?e been our enemy going back to 9/11, they had the safe haven in afghanistan for years. al-qaida had the training camps there. in those training camps, al-qaida prepared, organized and trained for the 9/11 attacks. the taliban had their hands in that because they provided the safe haven. they cooperate with the al-qaida on a regular basis. they share intelligence. they have a common enemy. the enemy happens to be us. our soldiers know that the taliban are their enemy and fighting them every day. >> i took calls on the radio for this. callers called up and said are you kidding me? i have friends that were killed by taliban, every day we plot to thwart them and preserve this government and we find out the vice president doesn't think they're the enemy. >> i don't know what's behind the statement. i mean, it's an outrageous statement and it simply isn't true. the facts are the facts. taliban have been our enemy for sometime and they're going to continue to be, frankly. >> let's listen to j