. >> the taliban are back in charge... >> the united states and taliban are holding their first face to face talks in doha... >> narrator: for over a decade, reporter najibullah quraishi... >> (bang bang) >>...has gained unprecedented access to the group and its fighters. >> i never believed twenty years later i could come back with the taliban with me. i never imagined that one day this could happen. >> narrator: frontline investigates how we got here. >> their future is dark. this is not the moderate taliban. >> narrator: the threats from al qaeda and isis. >> takfir! allahu akbar! >> isis always wanted to show their power. >> the explosion has happened just by the airport everybody is running. >> isis-k has claimed responsibility for the kabul attack. >> narrator: the fear among the afghan people... >> i cannot protect her. i cannot protect any woman. >> does it make you feel sad? >> makes me feel angry. >> narrator: and the consequences - of the taliban takeover. >> frontline is made possible by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. and by the corpor

if the international community goes on to support the taliban, isis will say taliban are the stooges of the americans and the western powers. and that will empower isis in the propaganda war to win over the youth, especially from other minorities that right now the taliban. the current government of the taliban has sidelined so there is a potential for recruitment from all other ethnic groups. i am a target. i'm in contact with a target, and a lot of the target youth are saying, could isis be an alternative to fight a ton upon because we are left in the middle of, of, of, of a global gain. so if the international committee does not support the thought upon, and the taliban government assessor become weaken than ice this propaganda machine is going to say, did we not tell you that state is him or this concept of nation estate does not work that we have to go into a global g heart to create a heal offer that is so large and so big and has all their resources on the population that can sustain itself economically. so these are the debates among the islamist groups. but when i listen to

translation: the taliban say there's no problem. i "we are not the taliban of the past."'ll allow women to work and study." but it's all a lie. nargis is also an actor and model. translation: well, at the moment, everything has stopped. we can't work. we aren't even allowed to attend university. every day, the situation is getting worse. for example, until a few days ago, only taliban soldiers had arrived. just in the last two days, their intelligence and the vice and virtue branches have also arrived, which is really scary for us. wherever we go, even if one strand of our hair is visible, they say it is against islam. why does she do that? she is trying to promote western culture. i know if we go to work, the taliban will whip us and send us home. it's hard. the vice and virtue police enforce the taliban rules. and taliban supporters feel emboldened to speak out. later, the taliban distanced themselves from his remarks. these seven to ten—year—olds have been allowed back to school, but, since the taliban's return to power, secondary school age girls have been not been in

the taliban launched a crack down and arrested dozens of icy fighters in those cities. taliban officials say they are determined to eradicate their rivals. violence has increased over the last few days. the taliban next move is going to be closely monitored by the afghan people and the international community. the united states is expecting the taliban to deliver on a promise made in the 2020 doe hug. we're meant to prevent i sail from building a base in afghanistan. the blasting condos underscores the growing challenges. the taliban now faces sissy took over the country in august. the taliban prides itself on providing secure and stable environment. but the attacks in delilah bad cobble a dove. this one in condos will increase anxieties among the afghan people. hash mobilizes either missouri city leon through calls itself hispanic state, correson province, a historical region that includes afghanistan and other central asian countries. it was formed in 2014 by breakaway fighters from the pakistani and afghan taliban groups. they pledged allegiance to the late iso leader abil bucher albe

of women, girls and minorities in 8 taliban run government in a taliban run, afghanistan on the issue of the iraq. he election results. we know now that the turn at was a historical low, the lowest since 2003 went sadam. hussein the then president was toppled following the us led invasion of iraq. he was congratulating the people of iraq. but he was also basically saying that whilst the election was in terms of an election, a success, the turn out was low. we know this, we've known this the past 24 hours or so. the actual election result turn out might be lower than 41 percent. if you go down region to region, if you get quite granular about different areas of the country. let's go back to afghanistan because the acting foreign ministers speaking in doha earlier today, just in the last hour or so. but a new phase in his country's relationship with the rest of the world. he led that taliban delegation to qatar for the 1st face to face meetings with the us and the e. u. since foreign for says left. cobble. this methodical with henri, a new chapter of the positive relationship with a wor

to meet with the taliban.oha is one of them. the americans met for t days with the taliban and had discussions over agenda issues that both sides wanted to bring out. in other western countries, european countries including germany, have also met with the taliban in doha under the past few weeks. you are seeing the inability of the taliban to turn kabul. ev though me reasonable -- regional countries have visited kabul. instead, they are using venues outside of afghanistan to interact with the international community. >>pressure today did not offer to recognize the taliban as of afghanistan. it did say it plans to hold the taliban responsible for keeping terrorist out of afghanistan and letting history repeat itself. which is more likely, that the taliban would allow terrorists to come back, or, a country like russia would keep its word and punish afghanistan? >>i think it would be very foolish and risky for the taliban to allow any transnational terrorist group that aims to destabilize the reason -- the region

and the taliban. campaign. braces anti taliban forces as carbolic unit labor of meddling. other 2 heading towards conflict. what implications does it have for the world? this is inside story. ah. hello and welcome. 1 to the show, i'm sammy's a than tension is rising between afghanistan and to g. stan. russia is urging the 2 sides to resolve disputes after reports of an increased military build up along the border. last week, the tiny bond warm, the tangent government against meddling and afghanistan's internal affairs. it comes after tagging president marley ramone refused to recognize the new ton of bond government and accused the group of human rights abuses against the tangent minority in the pantry valley. punchier fell for the 1st time to the tiny bon last month after fierce battles. so as a possible war looming along the afghan tactic border, we'll discuss this in a moment. but 1st, this report from hash matlab barbara in cobble. they all started in august with the taliban word, fencing towards

and the taliban. of the, or on the other hand, have been seeing that as it is 10, is interfering into the affairs of gaston. this has created some tension on the border with a military build up from both sides. although the taliban have been recently saying that the deployment of taliban fighters into the border with desecai san is just for the sake of implementing security across the country and securing the border. and that this has something that has absolutely nothing to do with attention with tajikistan. but the charges on tasks, on the other hand, are concerned. they believe that the taliban are providing safe havens weapons for the outlawed group of or jim jim at unsubtle law which is outlawed integer his that and helping them to cross into tajikistan subject, which has also been dismissed by the taliban. we have to wait and see what happens in the next future. passion, marbella, else's era. for insight story. well, let's take a closer look at the regions geography. then tajikistan shares more

, to talk with the taliban?with the taliban. we had a set of agreements with them, some of them which have not been released yet, on what they will do on the terrorism front. we hold them accountable to those agreements. >> diaz: the administration says that those dreamts are not in place, which is why they're trying to build those relationships now with the taliban. >> there is an agreement in place. there is an agreement in place with the taliban on terrorism and counter-terrorism. but-- >> brennan: to do what? >> well, they will not host, they will not allow fund-raising, they will not allow training, they will not allow recruitment by individuals or groups that would threaten the security of the united states and our allies, including al qaeda. but since we don't trust them, and since we decided to leave, we're going to do that from beyond afghanistan. and that's what remains a critical mission. >> brennan: do you think americans are safer now? >> the terrorist threat from afhanistan is not what it used to b

and we did do the taliban. a strong holes in the north of august on her decked her blunter history, nor for opposition. and then recently went to sir taliban defeated. the opposition, specifically the northern alliance. dear resistance in upon shared the flaw, no man got an asylum in tajikistan and openly started at a distance within the tragic is done. now now to conceal doors, sir, are very air. my interference is insight in afghanistan, fraud mer, tajikistan tajikistan started a blame game. no my by bringing good the news with this and sour mcgahey dean, and also my insecurity on the border with a gun has done there, but more moderately. so i think the conflict will not spill or what it should be there. so all of them coming beers within the diplomatic or no good, charleston, linguistically right? now, this question is that we may be really didn't pose this question to part of it in paris. what is this strategic goal for de shambly? why is tajikistan hosting these anti taliban forces and elements? is it simp

it doesn't mean recognition o taliban as a government. >> the taliban say at that meeting with u.s.icials, can america promised to provide humanitarian aid, but what do the americans say? >> americans say they never canceled humanitarian aid, they are paying this fiscal year. they stopped giving it to the afghan government when that taliban took over, and they will put it through the united nations and international aid organizations. at the end of the day, the taliban are in charge. they are the ones who have to give these aid agencies access to these hard-hit areas. that is what some of that pragmatic talking was. the taliban came out and said "we will cooperate with international aid agencies in a transparent manner." i asked the state department, will it speed up the deliry of aid? the u.s. has only delivered $5 million in assistance since it pulled out at the e of august. i did not get a clear answer, but there had been progress and a degree of consensus when it came to humanitarian issues. >> president biden has taken u.s. troops out of afghanistan. does the u.s. have financia

and the ccp and what is the state in afghanistan and indent taliban rule and seeking from the talibanespect to them and this is very important for me as i am the sponsor of this act out of the committee last week. it's an important issue. >> is important and important to me as well pretty i was responsible in a large way during the bush administration it for the extraction of the enr and most were killed. and i think they ones in afghanistan and for the rigors is very dim and also it seems to be sort of an acceleration of the stories coming out of china read and the terrible conditions in the number that attention and what happens to them and it seems to me that this is going to be as it should be, a way to with. >> it was, i wanted to throw in another question, do you see the prospect of salvaging this in afghanistan in the wake of u.s. withdrawal? [inaudible]. >> the gentlemen's time has expired and we won't have time to get that one in the now recognize abigail of virginia the vice chair of the subcommittee environment and cyber for five minutes. >> thank you so much, 20 years ago

but it can also be true that the taliban are, are playing the field. of course you have they, they've met with the russians. the russians met with them before, even though the taliban is designated by russia as a terrorist organization. and china has chimed in as well. so it looks like in the green game in this, it's the 21st century version of here, because i would agree with marcus that the u. s. wants to can maintain at least some form of influence there because it's the, the taliban is reaching out to others. and we have to remind everyone part of the trump deal was that our groups like al qaeda and isis will had to be had to be under control. meaning they wouldn't be using afghanistan as a, a based for foreign endeavors here. so there's a lot of mixed commentary again, it because of the emotional shock for so many people that were so vested in the war and they're getting a good pedal that narrative. so i think things are in flux here. but remember, patrick reacted with marcus, i'm to say it was very interesting. yeah. you could say, oh, come on, w

that's going to be a challenge for the taliban, - the taliban? fighters. a few of the provinces in afghanistan. now, if they are going to raise the game by targeting kabul, that will cause concern because taliban is already struggling with the banking crisis. the food crisis has doubled in recent weeks, and when they are waiting for recognition now. if they are going to have another armed group, that's going to be a big challenge for the taliban rulers. also, people are tired of working for years and years and now that, there is no violence. for civilians, it will be a concern. even though they will not be challenging the taliban, these kind of attacks can create instability.— create instability. thank you for 'oinin: us create instability. thank you for jeining us en — create instability. thank you for joining us on the _ create instability. thank you for joining us on the latest - create instability. thank you for joining us on the latest updates about that blast in kabul and the situation there. thank you for joining us on newsday. let's take

and taliban officials have begun talks and cutoff. it's the 1st in person meeting since american troops left afghanistan. i saw in afghanistan is high on the gender after a suicide bomber killed 60 people on friday. chinese president, changing thing is again vowing peaceful reification with taiwan will take place. tire pay has come on to increased military and political pressure from beijing in recent weeks. about 2000 refugees and migrants are in hiding after escaping from a libyan detention center. video posted on line showed people running out on to the street on friday, at least 60 voice shot and killed by gods during the chaos. over the past week or so, thousands of migrants around do up and a major cracked down. my like china has more from tripoli. this comes after a week of after a of the, the security operation that was carried out about a week ago or by the security services here in the town of good gathers of thousands of migrants and refugees were rounded up in what many described as the most severe crack down on my guns to

the taliban is one of extremist in the pakistani taliban and i understand there's already a conversation underway, greatly enhanced threat to their own security as the taliban increases the message going through the entire islamic world where extremist or important so how we got there isn't important, what we do not is more important. >> i now recognize ambassador. >> thank you, members of the committee. we are discussing an important topic in this brief statement, not for your work and committees work going forward in several lessons and takeaways on the on tragic events, especially the collapse of the government, including the suicide event, it killed 13 americans and 150 afghan civilians. natural to focus on the near terms the last several weeks and ask ourselves, how did we come to this? i believe a more powerful inducement assessment would entail a deeper and broader peace but this defeat afghanistan filter for the last 20 years over the last 20 and cumulative effect of the last three euros despite all efforts in nato allies and partners afghan people able to help insulate himself s

ready that the taliban, another taliban from the 19 nineties and the to fail since they have reforms they have even pledged to observe and respect human rights. so what i believed page says that the americans and the british are very much in afghanistan. they do not need an army of occupation to control afghanistan. they have simply, i write that an informal agreement with teller and, and they control key institutions in afghanistan, such as the civil service. and i believe that sooner rather than later, washington and london willis will formalize informal relations for the talent by reopening embassies in i just need to jump in in there because you could also make the argument in the, in what we just heard can be true. but it can also be true that the taliban are, are playing the field. of course you have they, they've met with the russians or the russians met with them before, even though the taliban is designated by russia as a terrorist organization. and china has chimed in as well. so it looks like in the green game in this, it's the 21st century version of the here. because i w

our top stories: the united states and the taliban are due to hold theirfirst the taliban are due to hold their first face—to—face talks since the us withdrawal from afghanistan. cracking down on safe havens — after months of negotiations, more than 130 nations agreed to radically change the international tax system. president biden urges american companies to fire workers who have not been vaccinated against coronavirus but there is a lot of opposition. the nobel peace prize is awarded to two journalists for their efforts to safeguard freedom of expression — maria ressa of the philippines and russia's dmitry muratov. trust is what holds us together to be able to solve the complex problems our world is facing today. welcome to our viewers on pbs in america and around the globe. starting with some breaking news and the united states and taliban at to hold their first face—to—face talks since the militants seized control of afghanistan in august. the state department said the meeting would take place in doha on saturday and sunday. we are joined place in doha on saturday and sunday. we

what did the taliban do? they went around to the afghan units and said, this is how it will go, with the backing of pakistan, intertwined with the haqqani network and al qaeda. they told those commanders, listen, you either accommodate us when we give you the single, or we kill your -- the signal, or we kill your family. how does that sound? so that is why the afghan army collapsed, along with, as you mentioned, the withdrawal of our support and airpower, their differential advantage. the telegram's was there backing by the -- the taliban's was there backing by the isi and other groups and their willingness to terrorize. it should be unacceptable, i think, to disparage the afghans who did fight and made the ultimate sacrifice to preserve the freedoms we now see being taken away. >> thank you. i have nothing to add. >> i now recognize the representative from california, who chairs the subcommittee on asia and the pacific for five minutes. >> thank you. it is surprising to me. i agree, knowing that each of the

there is no other game in town for the taliban.his economy has been dependent on outside aid for decades. the previous government was 70% dependent on foreign funding for its budget. the economy is in freefall. apart from illicit drugs, there is no industry that can support this country, but willed the taliban be able to do those deals with the international community, will they be able to offer the kind of conditions that would see westerns willing to give more without alienating supporters, many of whom are looking at islamic state and wondering if those of the true bears of the ideology they fought for -- bearers of the ideal of g -- ideology they fought for? brent: angela merkel said the money comes with strings attached, it cannot go to the pockets of the tell again -- taliban. it has to go to the people who needed international organizations will receive the funds industry the aid. is there anyway way to ensure that happens. we know corruption is a big problem in afghanistan and has been. correspondent: that is the case. when

when the taliban, the 1st came to power, when the taliban leaders meet, didn't do the talk about the need to re adjust to the new reality of the need to change the need to implement reforms. do they understand that the young afghan people, boys and girls in missouri said if under har, cobbled by dosher and her are different with different hope, different aspirations and not necessarily some people who are loyal to the taliban? yes sir, it is not her. only us al society that has changed, but the entire world has progressed as advanced. we understand all the complexities offer off the of the current world. we understand it very well and we are working. but again, i must emphasize that as the saying sit, goes, roam was not built in a day. what we are asking is the for time. or even when are countries that have governance models implemented like the now to says, there was an electron system and even then when one administration changes and the other one comes there have at least a 10 week window of transition. a we have not even been given a month and the demands that are being imposed o

time to the taliban. he said no. he sees this $6 billion going to the taliban. i think it is a big mistake. this as big issue. iron dome is a big issue. it is also a big issue whether we send money to the tail pap. they already have $80 billion worth of our weapons. i object. the presiding officer: objection is heard. mr. menendez: madam president? the presiding officer: the senator from new jersey. mr. menendez: let me just say, this is a fig leaf. we could have today passed iron dome as the house of representatives passed it, sent a billion dollars and make sure that israeli and palestinians would be safer. there is to reason for this. i know my colleague has not been particularly supportive on foreign aid in general. and in this case in particular. but the reality is that we have an opportunity here. now, i'm convinced that iron dome will get done. we will get the resources to our ally, the state of israel. but it is a shame that we have to have the uncertainty that is pending as a result of the objection that has been had. we don't need to find a pathway in

>> the challenge that the taliban has is i.s.tan have a problem with the taliban sometimes when it is less ideological, but moreover -- but more over turf wars, even in things to do with the distribution of narcotics, which both groups control through clandestine means. the ideological dimension is i think overplayed, but if you look at the fact that isis in afghanistan, the leadership is either pakistani or afghan, they do not actually get their instructions from the isis leadership in syria or iraq. it is very localized. on occasions, you will find that there are isis fighters buried into the families of taliban fighters and vice versa. in afghanistan, the situation is never black-and-white. there are many shades of gray. anchor: the u.s. is sounding this warning, they have no boots on the ground anymore. what can the u.s. and its allies do about this threat? >> u.s. has limited options. they have taken away the boots on the ground, so the foorint is no longer there. that means the ability to have that level of intelligence app

ah, and have become victims of the of of, of, of taliban rule. yes, this is exactly what did they, what had happened and the history is repeating itself for the hazardous of counties done. it seems that there are a lot of people who are willing to kill has are as the taliban themselves. they have been taking, they have been committing massacres off the has r as in malice, dawn and just recently in thy condie and, and, and now these attacks which we owe, which were feared very much fear. because a, despite the fact that taliban came out and said that they, that, that war has ended and the peace has arrived. but it shows it quite the opposite. unfortunately. and is this indicative of other minority groups as well in afghanistan? when of course, all the minority groups are being subjected to other, to a lot of atrocities. the, the, the, the, the, the sick community, the hendo coming to you and, and, and in that one, the only jew at which was living in afghanistan has already left afghanistan. and in, when it comes to, particularly to the, to the haz

than the taliban, they've launched a campaign of bombing attacks targeting taliban fighters.of the country at times, as well, in and around kabul. this attack in the north of afghanistan, apparently committed by a member of the uighur ethnic group, represents a worrying escalation and suggest their influence is expanding. the local branch of islamic state has claimed responsibility for this attack, what is their strategy? their strategy, given from this target set, they want to hit at least two birds with one stone. one is to exacerbate ethnic and sectarian tensions by targeting shia minority group. they want to be able to rile up the minorities, who are already really concerned about their fate, because of the taliban takeover. that is one. number two is that they want to be able to send a message, the location in kunduz is to rattle notjust iran, which will get involved because, you know, the shia community has been targeted but rush and central asian states because kunduz is not far off from the borders with turkmenistan russia and central asian states. and to take a stand

who leads the taliban? delegation says they've also discussed aid and getting curb 19 vaccinations into afghanistan. before the meeting the you said it was going to push the taliban on issues, including evacuation flights and how it's guaranteeing the rights of women and girls and minorities security. of course, another big talking point, particularly the threat posed by i saw in afghanistan, the arm groups latest attack in a sheer mosque on friday, killed more than 60 people. we have to correspondence tracking the story shortly. we'll speak to a sarab injury about what's been going on in cobble in the lead up to these talks 1st to natasha. going am here in doha. so natasha, what have they been talking about? well, i do want to note something that you just mentioned, the acting foreign minister maul, the american mach talkies said which is that these talks in his view represent the opening of a new page between cobble and washington baron by these are once enemies on the battlefield. now, representatives of

and the abandonment of americans to the taliban.rue president biden said we would not leave whenever americans left behind quick. >> we have not left americans behind. they continue to get out. >> we left americans behind. >> we did not leave americans behind. they continue to get out. >> you represent the dod did they leave before all americans were out? >> it was a consensus judgment leaving on august 31st was the best way to continue. >> general, did soldiers leave before all americans were out? >> yes ma'am. the last airplane left the morning of the 31st of august. >> thank you for your straightforward answer. doctor come is there more or less risk of terror attacks against americans and american interest because of the precipitous withdrawal of american military capabilities from the region? >> the intelligence community assesses across the world and that is lowest point since 9/11 we have already discussed the possibility that isis-k could reconstitute we have to be vigilant against that in afghanistan. >> that does not sound

and the taliban alone.arned that agreement demoralized the afghan army and the taliban moved in and began makingn deals that expedited their control. we know that contributed to the rapid fall of afghanistan which shocked us all earlier you told us when former president trump entered into the agreement there was a setting out of very specific conditions that were to be met by the time of the drawdown. is that correct? how many of the conditions have been met when former president trump then announced he wanted to speed up the withdrawal from may 1st to january 15, 2020? >> there was only one condition that was met and that was the condition that the taliban committed to not striking against u.s. forces and coalition forces which they didd not do. when then president trump announced the expedited drawdown, was he aware that four of the five conditions had not been met? >> i believe, yes. >> do you know the significance of there is any of the drawdown date? >> i don't. i don't know why that particular date wa

this certainly seems to be a message for the taliban. yes, the taliban are facing. what looks like the early stages of a new insurgency. because these of the old government forces are really down not, not yet fully organized. they may, they may start things later on. it seems most likely that it is not his amik state dice, which is carrying out these attacks. they're not only in eastern afghanistan the here. hm. oh, they are also operating in the northeastern, under northwestern. afghanistan. they are, this is the force which it pose the most direct and military threat to the taliban . while the attacks that we've seen have been highly typical of iso, right? they're hard to predict. they have as our correspond, steph said, fairly broad geographical spread. does the taliban have the intelligence or the security capacity even try to combat this or put, could this potentially invite more foreign involvement? well, me currently there and the other 2 kinds of foreign involvement. there's foreign fighters who are i'm some of them are allied with taliban. some of them are

taliban government wants recognition. they should not get that recognition unless they are a very different government than the one they are now. they have profound economic needs. that provides some leverage. we should continue to provide humanitarian assistance, not to the government, but around the government to at-risk populations. as it relates to the state department's position on women and girls, i don't have any information on that. i would ask -- i would defer that to the state department. senator hirono: i know the international community has come forward with literally billions of dollars in aid that are -- that's supposed to go directly to nongovernmental entities, but my understanding is that they have to work with the taliban in order to make sure that they give to the people that they are providing the aid to. how much of the aid of the international community, including the united states, is providing -- well, actually get to these organizations and out of the taliban's hands? do you have some sense of tha

an agreement entered into with the taliban and the taliban alone. we have learned that that agreement -- it was that agreement that demoralize the afghan army. and the taliban moved in and began making deals with them, which expedited their control. we know that that demoralization contributed to the rapid fall of afghanistan. which shocked us all. general milley, earlier you told us that when former president trump entered into the doha agreement, there was a setting out of a very specific conditions that were to be met by the time of the may 1st drawdown. is that correct? >> correct. >> general milley, how many of those conditions had been that when former president trump then announced he wanted to speed up the withdrawal from may 1st to january 15th, 2020? >> there was only one condition met. that was the condition that the taliban committed to not striking against u.s. forces and our coalition forces, which they did not do. >> and when then president trump announced the expedited drawdown, was he aware that four of the five conditions had not b

is this by chief of the taliban. with him is the man who was sanctioned by mona omar himself to set up the political office and thunderbolt. so there are going to be discussions not just with the americans, but the white international community has been in the preceding hours. you've seen the thought of bonds it envoy designated to the united nations meeting ambassadors from all over the globe. he's been meeting european union leaders even meeting united nations need has been meeting leaders from the region parties who are also involved in this process. so it is going to be an interesting development just to see, could the taliban are meeting? what are their demands and how does the international community, which is again, the thought about has been saying is holding crucial vital aid for millions of ogden people as a bargaining chip asana. many thanks to some of the injury there for us and cobble also in cobble is another algebra correspondence. stephanie deca. steph. such a difficult, challenging, well period of 48

is recognising the reality of taliban rule now the only option? ambassador adela raz in washington, dc, welcome to hardtalk. how weird is it being the representative in washington of a government which no longer exists? erm, it's quite difficult. it is challenging, but not powerless. i think this is... this is where i wanted to come and somehow correct you, stephen, because i think, in defence of my colleagues, other afghan diplomats and ambassadors who are across the world without authority, i would say yes, for sure, but without power, i think that's a little difficult because our power comes from the people of afghanistan and as long as we are representing the tricolour flag, which is behind me, i think that's our power and strength and that comes where our people will always be under this flag. but that flag behind you is no longer recognised by the people who run your country and the truth is that you are shunned by them, they've actually replaced you, although the replacement, of course, isn't yet being recognised by the united states govern

to discuss with the taliban.i say, the us state department is very, very clear in saying this is not about granting recognition. they say in the statement this is not about conferring legitimacy. the taliban has said that they are not the same group that they were when they were in power all of those years ago, that they are now more inclusive, but the us has repeatedly said that they will judge the taliban on its deeds, not its words. also, we've been hearing today about this bombing in kunduz. it's thought about 50 people have been killed, and the taliban when they took over said they would be able to keep so—called islamic state in check, didn't they? they said that safety was a key concern for them. that's right, and that's something that the us will be pressing them on as well. this delegation that's going over, we've not got any confirmation who will be a part of that delegation, but we are expecting it to include members of the state department as well as members of the intelligence community. it's a reall

taliban government wants recognition.y should not get that recognition and last there are very different government than the one they are now. they have profound economic needs to provide some limited and we should continue to provide image and assistance not to the government but around the government to at-risk populations. as relates to the the state department's position on women and girls i'm having information on that and i would ask, i would do for that to the state department. >> i know the international committee has come forward with literally billions of dollars in aid that are supposed to go directly to nongovernmental entities but my understanding is that they have to work with the taliban in order to make sure the agents to the people they're providing the aide too. how much of the aid of the international committee included the united states, actually get to these organizations and out of taliban stance? do you have some sense of that? >> so obviously that's in the writ of the usaid and i would defer that c

the taliban are of course jubilant. they have dismantled everything that the united states built here with human rights, the tolerance, the democratic institutions, and the matter of weeks. and they are jubilant. they have after 20 years of, and selection and rebellion. believe they won. ah, i virtually any measure this war was a failure in some respects, it even made things worse. from a humanitarian perspective or a 3rd of afghans near an offer on the verge of starvation, with no hope inside the drugs manufactured and export to that of, of gustavo killed countless youth worldwide. from a geopolitical perspective, the taliban considered an international pariah. since its inception is now having to be negotiated with it, i counted with even a, the un bob from a security perspective. yes, shall card the eve of gather stock may have been degraded but, but something worse has taken its place in that is isis which has bound to the challenge to afghanistan, dominance by the taliban. mcgasey of there. and couple will also in

,~', and risks they can pose to the taliban. . , ., taliban. that they can pose and the - they can pose and the challenges that the taliban are facing, very apparent as a result of this. how much is this incident raising fears of increased hostility or violence between islamic state militants and the taliban?— and the taliban? that's going to be a challenge _ and the taliban? that's going to be a challenge for - and the taliban? that's going to be a challenge for the - to be a challenge for the taliban because in the last few weeks, there have been a number of attacks on taliban fighters in the eastern province and a few other provinces in afghanistan. but now, if they are going to raise the game by targeting kabul, that is going to cause concern because taliban is already struggling with a banking crisis. food crisis have doubled, and they are waiting for recognition now. if they're going to have another group like islamic state, that's going to be a big challenge for the taliban rulers. also, the instability. people are tired and now for the

the risks that — to taliban rule as there. the risks that they _ to taliban rule as there.ey can pose and certainly the challenges that the taliban are facing a very apparent as a result of this. how much is this incident raising fears of increased hostility of violence between islamic state militants in the taliban? that will be a challenge for the taliban for the last few weeks have been a number of attacks on taliban fighters in the eastern half of the province and a few other provinces in afghanistan. but now if they are going to raise the game by targeting kabul that will cause concern because taliban is already struggling with the banking crisis and people cannot withdraw money, a food crisis this where food prices have doubled. they are waiting for international recognition now if they are going to have another armed group like the islamic state, thatis group like the islamic state, that is going to be a big challenge for the taliban rule as there. and also, the instability because people are tired of war for years and years and now for the last few weeks so for the